<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>On May 26, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Michael Edwards wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "> I remain<br>sceptical myself however--I just find programming directly, in a text<br>editor, to be the most effective and efficient way of working. I<br>realise that I'm in the minority there though.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>a minority for sure, but this is not a bad thing. actually, i was at mcgill last year; i showed stuff in sal (text), every other presentation was open music or pwgl. but some in the audience were neither, when i 'apologized' for showing the algorithms in text several opined that it was much easier to comprehend than the gui patches!<div><div><div><br></div></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite">Having worked on SC in CLOS<br>since 2000 it wouldn't be a simple thing to port it. I haven't looked<br>into CLOS->Scheme in any detail but when I did a while ago it didn't<br>seem trivial. Rick did it though (and Bill too from Common Lisp at<br>least, I assu</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>bill has tinyclos running in s7; its on my todo list this summer to see if i can't just boot the cm2 api in cm3/s7 using that. it should be possible since the cm2 CLOS code was actually auto-generated from cm2 scheme sources that used the "native" object systems in gauche, stklos, chicken scheme, all of which came from tinyclos.</div><div><br></div></body></html>