[PlanetCCRMA] lilypond-2.0 package missing ly2dvi

Noel Bush noel@x-31.com
Tue Dec 16 06:27:02 2003


Hmm...what I am notating involves many staves; I would not be able to
get very far editing the lilypond files by hand.

I am wondering if it was a mistake for me to start using NoteEdit at
all, though.  At first it just seemed like the easiest of the
Linux-based choices to get started with.  In many respects it is nice to
work with, but it also has a tendency to die suddenly with cryptic error
messages, in some cases apparently caused by output that it itself
produces!  My latest problem, though, is more serious: the lilypond
output from NoteEdit is, apparently, totally unacceptable to Lilypond. 
With earlier versions of both I was able to get some Postscript/PDF
output, but not now.

I just wonder if I am expecting too much from NoteEdit.  Can anyone
suggest what might be better?  I am not married to Lilypond, either -- I
just want at the end to be able to produce a nice-looking printed
score.  Aside from that, I just need to be able to work with
conventional musical notation and play the score through MIDI.  Should I
dig into Rosegarden?  Or something else?

I took a look at denemo, but based on your comments about "limbo" and
the fact that it was last updated in 2001, I'm a little wary.

So...who out there is doing composition using conventional musical
notation on Linux, and what tools are you using?  I know that in the Mac
world Sibelius seems to be the hot ticket.  Is there anything truly
comparable yet for Linux?

On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 02:44, Aaron wrote:
> The truth is that I just hate note edit for lilypond.
> The tool for lilypond is denemo but the maintainer is doing his thesis,
> I think and it is in temporary limbo.
> 
> If you can get the cvs to install it will actually edit the lilypond
> files.
> 
> 
> That said the question is what are you notating??
> 
> There has been a lot done with text editors for lilypond.
> emacs and xemacs has a bunch of stuff,
> 
> vim also but I find it harder to find the files with each release, I
> wrote my own ftplugin but it needs much work.
> 
> then there is jedit which has a lilypond mode.
> 
> The leap with lilpond comes when you finally realize that text is easier
> to input then graphical notes.
> 
> with text your as quick as you can touch type, with graphics you must
> mix typing with navigation.
> 
> This however is true for single line melodies.
> Once you get into scores you need sly.
> Or denemo. 
> What denemo needs now is a shot of developer interest.
> The concept is great and it could even be linked to a text editor to
> dynamically/visually output the results of typing text.
> 
> Aaron
> On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 08:41, Noel Bush wrote:
> > Oh, thanks!
> > 
> > Have you by any chance used NoteEdit to produce LilyPond output lately? 
> > It seems like lilypond doesn't like the files NoteEdit is producing.
> > 
> > Noel
> > 
> > On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 01:29, Aaron wrote:
> > > They changed lilypond no ly2dvi exist instead use lilypond.
> > > 
> > > Aaron
> > > On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 08:24, Noel Bush wrote:
> > > > The lilypond-2.0 rpm is missing ly2dvi.  That appears to be the only
> > > > omission from /usr/bin:
> > > > 
> > > > # cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
> > > > # rpm -q --package --list lilypond_2.0.0-1.rhfc1.ccrma_i386.rpm | grep /usr/bin
> > > > /usr/bin/abc2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/as2text
> > > > /usr/bin/convert-ly
> > > > /usr/bin/etf2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/lilypond
> > > > /usr/bin/lilypond-bin
> > > > /usr/bin/lilypond-book
> > > > /usr/bin/midi2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/mup2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/musedata2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/pmx2ly
> > > > # rpm -q --package --list lilypond_1.8.2-1.rh90_i386.rpm | grep /usr/bin
> > > > /usr/bin/abc2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/as2text
> > > > /usr/bin/convert-ly
> > > > /usr/bin/etf2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/lilypond
> > > > /usr/bin/lilypond-book
> > > > /usr/bin/ly2dvi
> > > > /usr/bin/midi2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/mup2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/musedata2ly
> > > > /usr/bin/pmx2ly
> > > > 
> > > > What needs to be done to re-include ly2dvi?  I tried editing the specfile like so:
> > > > 
> > > > @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@
> > > >  %{_bindir}/etf2ly
> > > >  %{_bindir}/lilypond
> > > >  %{_bindir}/lilypond-bin
> > > > +%{_bindir}/ly2dvi
> > > >  %{_bindir}/midi2ly
> > > >  %{_bindir}/lilypond-book
> > > >  %{_bindir}/mup2ly
> > > > 
> > > > ...but this is not enough.  :-)  After a half hour or so of churning away, the rpmbuild process finally craps out saying:
> > > > 
> > > > RPM build errors:
> > > >     File not found: /var/tmp/lilypond-2.0.0-root/usr/bin/ly2dvi
> > > >     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.64718 (%doc)
> > > > 
> > > > Any hope of getting this tool back?  Or better to revert to an earlier package?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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