Re-install

From mikko.harjula@mediware.fi Mon Jan 2 08:47:01 2006 From: mikko.harjula@mediware.fi (Mikko Harjula) Date: Mon Jan 2 08:47:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Failed to install planetccrma-core-edge on FC4 In-Reply-To: References: <17332.37171.678515.815737@mikko.mediware.fi> Message-ID: <17337.22744.953916.948558@mikko.mediware.fi> > I had the same difficulty until I found the hints in the Changelog at > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html > > The important thing was to include the edge repository: > > [...] > > To be able to get this kernel you need to temporarily activate the > planetedge repository in your apt configuration files. You could, for > example, create a new source file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ named > ``planetedge.list'' and include the following line in it: > > rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt fedora/4/i386 planetedge > > After an ``apt-get update'' you should be able to install the new > kernel (see below for how). This helped, huge thanks!!! -- Mikko Harjula puh. 010-525 1555 mikko.harjula@mediware.fi gsm 040-778 6669 From greg.mccourt@EF.com Tue Jan 3 14:12:01 2006 From: greg.mccourt@EF.com (greg mccourt) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:12:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re-install Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60904.1F55B14F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I'm preparing for a total fresh install of Planet on FC3---I seem to = have totally botched up my previous system, and after having a new VGA = card installed nothing seemed to work. I've only just installed the base = FC3 from cdrom and now am going to install Planet. Questions: * My previous install recognized my SB Live 7.1 card, but now only the = AC chip on the MB is recognized. Perhaps the SB will be recognized after = I install Planet; if not, I don't know what to do. * I have a P4---is there a quick check to see if hyperthreading is = enabled, hence installing the smp kernel? Thanks Greg ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60904.1F55B14F Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re-install

Hi.

I'm preparing for a total fresh install of Planet on FC3---I seem to = have totally botched up my previous system, and after having a new VGA = card installed nothing seemed to work. I've only just installed the base = FC3 from cdrom and now am going to install Planet.

Questions:

* My previous install recognized my SB Live 7.1 card, but now only the = AC chip on the MB is recognized. Perhaps the SB will be recognized after = I install Planet; if not, I don't know what to do.

* I have a P4---is there a quick check to see if hyperthreading is = enabled, hence installing the smp kernel?

Thanks

Greg

------_=_NextPart_001_01C60904.1F55B14F-- From greg.mccourt@EF.com Tue Jan 3 14:16:28 2006 From: greg.mccourt@EF.com (greg mccourt) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:16:28 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] New FC3/PlanetCore install---no sound Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AB1.C58ADA23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. No sound. OK. I'm confused here as this didn't happen with my previous install, = but after reinstalling this is the first time the ICH5 chip has even = been recognized---the SB Live only after installing Planet core: Intel P4; SB Live 24/7.1; Planet core (non-smp) /etc/modprobe.conf alias eth0 8139too alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-1 index=3D1 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && = /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; = /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106 options snd-card-0 index=3D0 install snd-ca0106 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ca0106 && = /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-ca0106 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; = /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ca0106 /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH5 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5 Intel ICH5 with AD1888 at 0xfebff800, irq 17 1 [CA0106 ]: CA0106 - CA0106 Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410] at 0xdf80 irq 20 Question: I think I've set modprobe.conf for correct card priority, but = the motherboard ICH5 is still getting `0' in /proc/asound/cards---why? = Do I need to cut and paste card1 to follow card0 in modprobe.conf? aplay fails too: [greg@ip-61 ~]$ aplay /home/greg/csound/soundfiles/etude1.wav=20 Playing WAVE '/home/greg/csound/soundfiles/etude1.wav' : Signed 16 bit = Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono aplay: set_params:862: Channels count non available gamix recognizes both cards and I have playback turned up on both. At a loss... anyone see what is going wrong or where I've made mistakes = in my install? Thanks. Greg ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AB1.C58ADA23 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New FC3/PlanetCore install---no sound

Hello.
No sound.
OK. I'm confused here as this didn't happen with my previous install, = but after reinstalling this is the first time the ICH5 chip has even = been recognized---the SB Live only after installing Planet core:

Intel P4; SB Live 24/7.1; Planet core (non-smp)

/etc/modprobe.conf

alias eth0 8139too
alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-1 index=3D1
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 = && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 = || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=3D0
install snd-ca0106 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ca0106 && = /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-ca0106 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || = : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ca0106

/proc/asound/cards

0 [ICH5           ]: = ICH4 - Intel ICH5
            &= nbsp;        Intel ICH5 with AD1888 = at 0xfebff800, irq 17
1 [CA0106         ]: CA0106 - = CA0106
            &= nbsp;        Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410] = at 0xdf80 irq 20

Question: I think I've set modprobe.conf for correct card priority, but = the motherboard ICH5 is still getting `0' in /proc/asound/cards---why? = Do I need to cut and paste card1 to follow card0 in modprobe.conf?

aplay fails too:
[greg@ip-61 ~]$ aplay /home/greg/csound/soundfiles/etude1.wav
Playing WAVE '/home/greg/csound/soundfiles/etude1.wav' : Signed 16 bit = Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono
aplay: set_params:862: Channels count non available

gamix recognizes both cards and I have playback turned up on both.

At a loss... anyone see what is going wrong or where I've made mistakes = in my install?

Thanks. Greg

------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AB1.C58ADA23-- From greg.mccourt@EF.com Tue Jan 3 14:16:41 2006 From: greg.mccourt@EF.com (greg mccourt) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:16:41 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] More No Sound Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AFB.3C233C1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Sound card priority---solved, I think. I guess the order that they = appear in modprobe.conf does matter regardless of the cards 0 or 1 = identity. However, still no sound from 2.6.10-2.1.ll.rhfc3.ccrma on my = P4 with SB Live 7.1 card. Again, my previous installation of Planet = could play soundfiles just fine, so I'm not sure what is going on with = this fresh install. Here are some of the errors I'm getting: When trying to play a soundfile with aplay, I get this: [greg@ip-61 ~]$ aplay voice.wav=20 Playing WAVE 'voice.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, = Mono aplay: set_params:862: Channels count non available >From within xmms, I get this back in the shell: ** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: PCM Message: fmt 5, channels: 2 ...and xmms hangs. When trying to play a simple sound file from within snd, the listener = reports the following: ;alsa_audio_open: hw:0,0: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to = 48000 instead ;recover_from_xrun: [under|over]run detected ;recover_from_xrun: [under|over]run detected ... ... named fails to start as well (odd, had never had a problem with that = either...), but getting audio sorted out is my first concern. Any help = would be great. Thanks Greg ------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AFB.3C233C1D Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More No Sound

Hi,

Sound card priority---solved, I think. I guess the order that they = appear in modprobe.conf does matter regardless of the cards 0 or 1 = identity. However, still no sound from 2.6.10-2.1.ll.rhfc3.ccrma on my = P4 with SB Live 7.1 card. Again, my previous installation of Planet = could play soundfiles just fine, so I'm not sure what is going on with = this fresh install. Here are some of the errors I'm getting:

When trying to play a soundfile with aplay, I get this:

[greg@ip-61 ~]$ aplay voice.wav
Playing WAVE 'voice.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, = Mono
aplay: set_params:862: Channels count non available

>From within xmms, I get this back in the shell:

** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: PCM
Message: fmt 5, channels: 2

...and xmms hangs.

When trying to play a simple sound file from within snd, the listener = reports the following:

;alsa_audio_open: hw:0,0: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to = 48000 instead
;recover_from_xrun: [under|over]run detected
;recover_from_xrun: [under|over]run detected
...
...

named fails to start as well (odd, had never had a problem with that = either...), but getting audio sorted out is my first concern. Any help = would be great. Thanks

Greg

------_=_NextPart_001_01C60AFB.3C233C1D-- From marco.m@westnet.com.au Tue Jan 3 14:16:48 2006 From: marco.m@westnet.com.au (marco.m@westnet.com.au) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:16:48 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Rosegarden4 on fedora 4 x86_64 Message-ID: <380-2200512530132314169@westnet.com.au> Hi, I have installed the ccrma rosegarden4, jack-audio-connection and qsynth on my AMD 64 machine which is running fedora4 x86_64. Rosegarden appears to start fine but it is slow and the message "jack ... is losing sample frames" appears often. When I started fluidsynth using qsynth the following appeared: 21:15:09.877 Qsynth1: Creating synthesizer engine... 21:15:10.934 Qsynth1: Loading soundfont: "/home/marco/drivers/soundfont_files/harmo5.SF2" (bank offset 0)... 21:15:11.712 Qsynth1: Creating audio driver (jack)... 21:15:11.715 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)... 21:15:11.715 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)... 21:15:11.718 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI player... 21:15:11.719 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_program_reset() 21:15:11.725 Qsynth1: Synthesizer engine started. 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_gain(1) 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_reverb(0.2,0,0.5,1) 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_chorus(3,2,0.3,8,0) fluidsynth: warning: Failed to pin the sample data to RAM; swapping is possible. When I tried to lsiten to a midi file it appeared but I could not hear it being played (as I was able to on an older machine running the ccrma kernels on fedora 3 and on the old system no warnings appeared. My questions are a) Is your software able to be used using the standard kernels and b) on a x86_64 system. I would appreciate your assistance with this. Thanks, Marc I am using the standar From thawes@execulink.com Tue Jan 3 14:16:58 2006 From: thawes@execulink.com (Todd Hawes) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:16:58 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] ubuntu Message-ID: <1136052388.10733.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Will Ardour work on Ubuntu Breezy, kernel 2.6.12-9-386.? Set-up... -Amd XP2000+ -Abit VA 10 motherboard w/ VIA km 400 and VIA vt8235 chipsets -Nvidia Gforce 2 mx Video card -Soundblaster live sound card From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 3 14:40:02 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:40:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] udpate: kernel packages for FC4 in the planetedge repository In-Reply-To: <1135988488.4357.2.camel@eviltwin> References: <1134960434.26893.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1135988488.4357.2.camel@eviltwin> Message-ID: <1136327981.19742.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 18:21 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 18:47 -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Hi all... new experimental kernels just in time for the Holidays! > > > > (whether it works in your case or not could mean a better or worse > > Holiday break, so best luck in your testing!) > > > > THe usual caveat applies, if it is not broken don't fix it. If you are > > happy with the performance of your current FC4 kernel there's no need to > > upgrade! > > > > These kernels are now available on the Fedora Core 4 PlanetEdge > > repository. For details on how to install them please see the online > > ChangeLog at: > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html > > > > > > What's new, in short: > > - kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt: > > based on 2.6.14 and Ingo's 2.6.14-rt22 realtime preemption patch > > configured now with the PREEMPT_RT option (instead of the more > > conservative PREEMPT_DESKTOP I had been using so far). Much better > > latency behavior! (as usual only if it works on your hardware :-) > > - alsa 1.0.10 final > > - jackd 0.100.6-0.3.cvs. Includes a patch to not use the TSC by > > default, TSC's don't work correctly on newer AMD dual core > > processors and other cases (there is a new option in jackd to get the > > old behavior back - details in the changelog). > > > > Feedback welcome[*]! > > > Thanks Fernando, I've got it working on my new Athlon64 3700+. > Works like a champ. Now all I need is the kernel source so I can build > my stinkin' NVIDIA video driver. How do I get the sources? "apt-get install kernel-devel" (or kernel-smp-devel). You probably want to update this line in /etc/apt/apt.conf so that you can have multiple kernel-*devel packages installed (for different kernels) "^kernel(-(BOOT|.*devel|smp|bigmem|debug|doc|source.*)|)$"; [sorry for the delay, I'm in the middle of vacation...] -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 3 14:41:00 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:41:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1136052388.10733.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1136052388.10733.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1136328054.19742.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 13:06 -0500, Todd Hawes wrote: > Will Ardour work on Ubuntu Breezy, kernel 2.6.12-9-386.? > > Set-up... > -Amd XP2000+ > -Abit VA 10 motherboard w/ VIA km 400 and VIA vt8235 chipsets > -Nvidia Gforce 2 mx Video card > -Soundblaster live sound card No idea... most probably the ardour-users mailing list would be a better place to ask this question (unless there are ubuntu users lurking around). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 3 14:43:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:43:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Rosegarden4 on fedora 4 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <380-2200512530132314169@westnet.com.au> References: <380-2200512530132314169@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1136328125.19742.18.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 21:23 +0800, marco.m@westnet.com.au wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed the ccrma rosegarden4, jack-audio-connection and > qsynth on my AMD 64 machine which is running fedora4 x86_64. All the Planet CCRMA packages are only built (so far) on top of the 32 bit versions of fc... so all bets are off if you try to run them on top of the 64 bit versions. I have not tried myself... -- Fernando > Rosegarden appears to start fine but it is slow and the message "jack > ... is losing sample frames" appears often. > > When I started fluidsynth using qsynth the following appeared: > > 21:15:09.877 Qsynth1: Creating synthesizer engine... > 21:15:10.934 Qsynth1: Loading soundfont: > "/home/marco/drivers/soundfont_files/harmo5.SF2" (bank offset 0)... > 21:15:11.712 Qsynth1: Creating audio driver (jack)... > 21:15:11.715 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)... > 21:15:11.715 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)... > 21:15:11.718 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI player... > 21:15:11.719 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_program_reset() > 21:15:11.725 Qsynth1: Synthesizer engine started. > 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_gain(1) > 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_reverb(0.2,0,0.5,1) > 21:15:11.726 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_set_chorus(3,2,0.3,8,0) > fluidsynth: warning: Failed to pin the sample data to RAM; swapping > is possible. > > When I tried to lsiten to a midi file it appeared but I could not > hear it being played (as I was able to on an older machine running > the ccrma kernels on fedora 3 and on the old system no warnings > appeared. > > My questions are a) Is your software able to be used using the > standard kernels and b) on a x86_64 system. > > I would appreciate your assistance with this. > > Thanks, > > Marc > > I am using the standar > > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 3 14:46:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:46:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Seeking 2.4.24.ll.rh90.ccrma Kernel Src RPM In-Reply-To: <43B6E614.3040802@sigma.net> References: <43B6E614.3040802@sigma.net> Message-ID: <1136328299.19742.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 12:12 -0800, Eric Weaver wrote: > Anybody have an old copy of the 2.4.24.ll.rh90 kernel source RPM? I > have a couple systems working on 2.4.24 and would dearly love to be able > to reconfig and compile the kernel. Tried using the 2.4.26 one but it > would not bring up things like USB (though maybe I configured it wrong). > > Thanks for any pointers... http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.src.rpm (that directory is where all srpms live) -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 3 14:49:00 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 3 14:49:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] status for updated jack-audio-connection-kit In-Reply-To: <20051221163539.84261.qmail@web32410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051221163539.84261.qmail@web32410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1136328496.19742.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 08:35 -0800, R Parker wrote: > Rui, > > > In the your example, you should have as an Output > > Socket: > > > > Name: "Rosegarden Master Out" > > Client: "rosegarden" > > Plugs: > > 1. "master out L" > > 2. "master out R" > > > > and, as an example Input Socket: > > > > Name: "Ardour Master In" > > Client: "ardour" > > Plugs: > > 1. "Master/in 1" > > 2. "Master/in 2" > > > > then, if you connect these two sockets; > > > > "Rosegarden Master Out" -> "Ardour Master In" > > If I recall that failed to connect which caused me to > create: > Rosegarden Master Out L and > Rosegarden Master Out R > > qjackctl-0.2.15-2.rhfc3.ccrma; I'm a hostage to > package management. Maybe there's a bug in my version > of Qjackctl. > > > This is surely a topic open for ideas. Have you > > looked into the > > "competition" lately? I wonder how all that > > spaghetti can be handled > > visually by Dave Robillard's patchage. > > I wonder too but insist upon being a Linux audio user > and have refused to play games compiling applications > like OM which have requirements that FC3 and CCRMA > don't meet. My strategy is failing. :) What to do, > what to do... Sorry, I'm way behind on everything, including qjackctl. Any news on this issue? Is it a problem with Planet CCRMA's current qjackctl? [mid vacation remote login] -- Fernando From rncbc@rncbc.org Tue Jan 3 15:45:02 2006 From: rncbc@rncbc.org (Rui Nuno Capela) Date: Tue Jan 3 15:45:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] status for updated jack-audio-connection-kit In-Reply-To: <1136328496.19742.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20051221163539.84261.qmail@web32410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1136328496.19742.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <43BB0CBB.8080007@rncbc.org> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 08:35 -0800, R Parker wrote: >> >> qjackctl-0.2.15-2.rhfc3.ccrma; I'm a hostage to >> package management. Maybe there's a bug in my version >> of Qjackctl. >> >>> This is surely a topic open for ideas. Have you looked into >>> the "competition" lately? I wonder how all that spaghetti >>> can be handled visually by Dave Robillard's patchage. >> >> I wonder too but insist upon being a Linux audio user >> and have refused to play games compiling applications >> like OM which have requirements that FC3 and CCRMA >> don't meet. My strategy is failing. :) What to do, >> what to do... > > Sorry, I'm way behind on everything, including qjackctl. Any news on > this issue? Is it a problem with Planet CCRMA's current qjackctl? [mid > vacation remote login] > I believe QjackCtl has made some tiny steps forward since 0.2.15a (10 moths ago). The latest and greatest has come to 0.2.19a as of late November ;) Cheers and have a nice vacation. I'm sure you deserve it. -- rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela rncbc@rncbc.org From eviltwin69@cableone.net Tue Jan 3 16:15:01 2006 From: eviltwin69@cableone.net (Jan Depner) Date: Tue Jan 3 16:15:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] udpate: kernel packages for FC4 in the planetedge repository In-Reply-To: <1136327981.19742.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1134960434.26893.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1135988488.4357.2.camel@eviltwin> <1136327981.19742.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1136333637.347.3.camel@eviltwin> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 14:39 -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > "apt-get install kernel-devel" (or kernel-smp-devel). > > You probably want to update this line in /etc/apt/apt.conf so that you > can have multiple kernel-*devel packages installed (for different > kernels) > > "^kernel(-(BOOT|.*devel|smp|bigmem|debug|doc|source.*)|)$"; > > [sorry for the delay, I'm in the middle of vacation...] > -- Fernando > No sweat, take your time and have a great vacation. It's installing now. Thanks again. -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744 From brad@sonaural.com Tue Jan 3 17:40:02 2006 From: brad@sonaural.com (Brad Fuller) Date: Tue Jan 3 17:40:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] upgrade from FC3 to FC4 In-Reply-To: <43B2AF63.4010907@sonaural.com> References: <43B2AF63.4010907@sonaural.com> Message-ID: <43BB2730.1070504@sonaural.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020603010106000907010705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bumping this because I can't believe that no one has upgraded (successfully) from FC3 to FC4 with stories to tell! Brad Fuller wrote: > Anyone who has updated their FC3 system to FC4 care to describe how > they did it? I expect that it is a two step process: 1: update base to > FC4 and 2: update planetccrma installs to FC4. > > This link seems proper, anyone follow this? : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq > > I see it is not recommended: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades > > although the installation from CD has an upgrade: > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ch-upgrading-system.html > > > it never worked for me in the past. A clean install was always required. > > Any hints most appreciated! > > brad > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- *Brad Fuller* +1 (408) 799-6124 *Sonaural Audio Studio* See Us At GDC 2006 Hear us online: www.Sonaural.com See me on O'Reilly --------------020603010106000907010705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bumping this because I can't believe that no one has upgraded (successfully) from FC3 to FC4 with stories to tell!

Brad Fuller wrote:

Anyone who has updated their FC3 system to FC4 care to describe how they did it? I expect that it is a two step process: 1: update base to FC4 and 2: update planetccrma installs to FC4.

This link seems proper, anyone follow this? :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq

I see it is not recommended:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades

although the installation from CD has an upgrade:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ch-upgrading-system.html

it never worked for me in the past. A clean install was always required.

Any hints most appreciated!

brad

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--------------020603010106000907010705-- From doc.evans@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:56:01 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue Jan 3 17:56:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? Message-ID: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> OK; I obviously have been brainwashed by Windows and KDE. How on Earth is the GNOME file selection dialog supposed to work? Trying to import a track into ardour, I bring up the file selection dialog, but I can't actually select any files. If I double click on the directories (to walk my way down the hierarchy from / to the file I want to import) then nothing happens. If I manually enter the absolute path of the file in the box that allows you to type stuff, and then press , nothing happens. Exactly the same behaviour occurs when, for example, I launch alsaplayer and try to play a file: i.e., I can't figure out how to tell which file I want it to play. The keyboard and mouse appear to be working fine (I'm writing this on the same machine). I feel like a right idiot that I can't even select a file. Doc From S.W.Harris@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Jan 4 03:55:02 2006 From: S.W.Harris@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Steve Harris) Date: Wed Jan 4 03:55:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:55:23 -0700, D. R. Evans wrote: > OK; I obviously have been brainwashed by Windows and KDE. > > How on Earth is the GNOME file selection dialog supposed to work? > > Trying to import a track into ardour, I bring up the file selection > dialog, but I can't actually select any files. If I double click on > the directories (to walk my way down the hierarchy from / to the file > I want to import) then nothing happens. If I manually enter the > absolute path of the file in the box that allows you to type stuff, > and then press , nothing happens. > > Exactly the same behaviour occurs when, for example, I launch > alsaplayer and try to play a file: i.e., I can't figure out how to > tell which file I want it to play. Sounds like a software problem, if I double click a file in alsaplayer the dialoge closes and the file is loaded. - Steve From doc.evans@gmail.com Wed Jan 4 07:25:02 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:25:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Message-ID: <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> Steve Harris said the following at 2006-01-04 04:54 : > Sounds like a software problem, if I double click a file in alsaplayer the > dialoge closes and the file is loaded. > I can't get to a file. All I have is a list of directories. I have the current CCRMA distro installed. apt says that there are no updates/upgrades to install. Everything else seems to be working fine (I spent several hours being somewhat productive with hydrogen, jack and ardour yesterday, and apart from my inablity to figure out how to import sound files everything worked as it should). Doc From S.W.Harris@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Jan 4 07:40:02 2006 From: S.W.Harris@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Steve Harris) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:40:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:23:51 -0700, D. R. Evans wrote: > Steve Harris said the following at 2006-01-04 04:54 : > > >Sounds like a software problem, if I double click a file in alsaplayer the > >dialoge closes and the file is loaded. > > > > I can't get to a file. All I have is a list of directories. > > I have the current CCRMA distro installed. apt says that there are no > updates/upgrades to install. Everything else seems to be working fine (I > spent several hours being somewhat productive with hydrogen, jack and > ardour yesterday, and apart from my inablity to figure out how to import > sound files everything worked as it should). In alsaplayer I see a list of directories on the left, and a list of files on the right. - Steve From doc.evans@gmail.com Wed Jan 4 08:10:02 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed Jan 4 08:10:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Message-ID: <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> Steve Harris said the following at 2006-01-04 08:39 : > > In alsaplayer I see a list of directories on the left, and a list of files > on the right. > Since the list of directories I see is rooted in /, I expect to see no files (since there aren't any files in /, just directories). I just can't figure out how to move away from the / directory. Nothing I do seems to have any effect whatsoever. Doc From m_nels@gmx.net Wed Jan 4 08:24:00 2006 From: m_nels@gmx.net (Michael T D Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 4 08:24:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43BBF77F.1030906@gmx.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > Since the list of directories I see is rooted in /, I expect to see no > files (since there aren't any files in /, just directories). I just > can't figure out how to move away from the / directory. Nothing I do > seems to have any effect whatsoever. I'm no expert - bit is it worth putting a suitable file in your / folder temporarily, just so you can see whether that is displayed anywhere and/or whether you can open it? Regards Michael From m_nels@gmx.net Wed Jan 4 08:32:08 2006 From: m_nels@gmx.net (Michael T D Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 4 08:32:08 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBF77F.1030906@gmx.net> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <43BBF77F.1030906@gmx.net> Message-ID: <43BBF97B.10206@gmx.net> Michael T D Nelson wrote: > I'm no expert - bit is it worth putting a suitable file ... Sorry, I meant 'but' rather than 'bit'. Michael From linuxuadio@rytmisk.net Wed Jan 4 09:26:02 2006 From: linuxuadio@rytmisk.net (Ketil Thorgersen) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:26:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1136052388.10733.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1136052388.10733.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43BC0503.8080601@rytmisk.net> Todd Hawes wrote: >Will Ardour work on Ubuntu Breezy, kernel 2.6.12-9-386.? > >Set-up... >-Amd XP2000+ >-Abit VA 10 motherboard w/ VIA km 400 and VIA vt8235 chipsets >-Nvidia Gforce 2 mx Video card >-Soundblaster live sound card > >_______________________________________________ >PlanetCCRMA mailing list >PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu >http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > Works fine on my ubuntu with ardour from demudi.agnula.org Ketil From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Wed Jan 4 12:20:02 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Wed Jan 4 12:20:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200601042119.01753.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Wednesday 04 January 2006 17:09, D. R. Evans wrote: > Steve Harris said the following at 2006-01-04 08:39 : > > In alsaplayer I see a list of directories on the left, and a list of > > files on the right. > > Since the list of directories I see is rooted in /, I expect to see no > files (since there aren't any files in /, just directories). I just can't > figure out how to move away from the / directory. Nothing I do seems to > have any effect whatsoever. > > Doc Hi Doc. I don't use Gnome, but prefer KDE which is also installed on my Fedora installs. I use FC1,2 and 3. I've poked about in Gnome a bit on FC2 and 3. Alsaplayer in Gnome on FC2 shows in "Add files" my home directories, and works ok. In FC3, Alsaplayer shows ./ and ../ . Although as I already have a file loaded into Alsaplayer from KDE I have a load of files on the files side, and Alsaplayer immediately plays when opening it. Above the Directories & Files panes I have a browser which shows the following. /home/djmons/Music/Thorsten Wilms /home/djmons/Music /home/ / What do you see in this browser? If I choose /home/djmons/Music in the browser the other directories show up in the Directories side, and clicking on these show the files on the File side. Which Fedora version are you using, And do you have both KDE and Gnome installed on it? The only time I had a problem with accessing the home directory was when trying to login to KDE. Somehow permissions had changed, and as the KDE config stuff is in the home directory, I couldn't login. Are you able to open your /home directory from the desktop. If so. What happens when you click on a music file? I can't help much on this as I have Realplayer installed for Internet radio, and Realplayer as it does in Windows thinks it's the only media player in existance. Clicking on a music file for me, just brings up that darned thing and plays the music. Right clicking on the file does give you some other options. I'm trying to see if there may be a problem with Nautilus for some reason. Now this is interesting, and is with FC3. Right clicking on the music file, then selecting "Open with Other Application" brings up a browser. If I select Alsaplayer it plays the file ok. Incidentally I only get various media player options on FC2, not a browser that allows me to specify a media player. I'm not going to suggest you use KDE. I prefer it, but that's just me. Feedback apprecated. as this is a bit weird. Nigel. > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From eviltwin69@cableone.net Wed Jan 4 13:54:01 2006 From: eviltwin69@cableone.net (Jan Depner) Date: Wed Jan 4 13:54:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] upgrade from FC3 to FC4 In-Reply-To: <43BB2730.1070504@sonaural.com> References: <43B2AF63.4010907@sonaural.com> <43BB2730.1070504@sonaural.com> Message-ID: <1136342951.9724.2.camel@eviltwin> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 17:38 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote: > bumping this because I can't believe that no one has upgraded > (successfully) from FC3 to FC4 with stories to tell! > > Brad Fuller wrote: > > Anyone who has updated their FC3 system to FC4 care to describe how > > they did it? I expect that it is a two step process: 1: update base > > to FC4 and 2: update planetccrma installs to FC4. > > > > This link seems proper, anyone follow this? : > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq > > > > I see it is not recommended: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades > > > > although the installation from CD has an upgrade: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ch-upgrading-system.html > > > > it never worked for me in the past. A clean install was always > > required. > > I would recommend a clean install as well. I'm now running well with FC4 on an Athlon 64 (32 bit of course). You might want to save a copy of /etc to your music disk since that's where most of your system specific stuff lives. That way you can go look at it when you get stuck after the install. -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744 From eviltwin69@cableone.net Wed Jan 4 14:06:01 2006 From: eviltwin69@cableone.net (Jan Depner) Date: Wed Jan 4 14:06:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:09 -0700, D. R. Evans wrote: > Steve Harris said the following at 2006-01-04 08:39 : > > > > > In alsaplayer I see a list of directories on the left, and a list of files > > on the right. > > > > Since the list of directories I see is rooted in /, I expect to see no > files (since there aren't any files in /, just directories). I just can't > figure out how to move away from the / directory. Nothing I do seems to > have any effect whatsoever. > I missed the first parts of this thread so you may have already tried this but you should be able to double click on the directory of choice in the left hand menu and it should descend into the directory. -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744 From doc.evans@gmail.com Wed Jan 4 16:32:01 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed Jan 4 16:32:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> Message-ID: <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> Jan Depner said the following at 2006-01-04 15:04 : > I missed the first parts of this thread so you may have already > tried this but you should be able to double click on the directory of > choice in the left hand menu and it should descend into the directory. > > Yeah, that's I thought was the intuitive behaviour. But when I do that _absolutely nothing happens_. Also absolutely nothing happens if I manually enter a path in the little text thingy and then press "Enter". So it seems like mysteriously something is broken. But how do I fix it? Having got the real-time kernel to work, I really don't want to rip CCRMA off the box and re-install Mandriva now. Everything _seems_ to be working perfectly, except for the GNOME file-selection dialogues. But if they're broke, maybe other stuff is broken too and I just haven't tripped over it yet. Doc From doc.evans@gmail.com Wed Jan 4 16:37:05 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed Jan 4 16:37:05 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BBF77F.1030906@gmx.net> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <43BBF77F.1030906@gmx.net> Message-ID: <43BC69E9.5030405@gmail.com> Michael T D Nelson said the following at 2006-01-04 09:27 : > I'm no expert - bit is it worth putting a suitable file in your / folder > temporarily, just so you can see whether that is displayed anywhere > and/or whether you can open it? > I tried it; it is displayed. And I can open it by double-clicking on it. Doc From luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net Wed Jan 4 16:55:01 2006 From: luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net (Luis Garrido) Date: Wed Jan 4 16:55:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> Message-ID: To me it sounds as some funny permission thing. Try to log in as root and see if you get the same results. From eviltwin69@cableone.net Wed Jan 4 17:05:02 2006 From: eviltwin69@cableone.net (Jan Depner) Date: Wed Jan 4 17:05:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136422983.27218.1.camel@eviltwin> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 17:31 -0700, D. R. Evans wrote: > Jan Depner said the following at 2006-01-04 15:04 : > > > I missed the first parts of this thread so you may have already > > tried this but you should be able to double click on the directory of > > choice in the left hand menu and it should descend into the directory. > > > > > > Yeah, that's I thought was the intuitive behaviour. But when I do that > _absolutely nothing happens_. > > Also absolutely nothing happens if I manually enter a path in the little > text thingy and then press "Enter". > > So it seems like mysteriously something is broken. But how do I fix it? > Having got the real-time kernel to work, I really don't want to rip CCRMA > off the box and re-install Mandriva now. > > Everything _seems_ to be working perfectly, except for the GNOME > file-selection dialogues. But if they're broke, maybe other stuff is broken > too and I just haven't tripped over it yet. > That's weird. I'm running FC4/Planet CCRMA on an Athlon 64. I normally use KDE but I brought up GNOME and had no problems with the file selection boxes. -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744 From brad@sonaural.com Wed Jan 4 17:48:01 2006 From: brad@sonaural.com (Brad Fuller) Date: Wed Jan 4 17:48:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Latest ccrma FC3 kernel: 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma? Message-ID: <43BC7AB6.3060008@sonaural.com> when I check with yum or apt-get I still see that 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma is the latest ccrma kernel for FC3. Is that right? Or, are others using the standard kernel now for audio? brad From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jan 5 10:49:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jan 5 10:49:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Latest ccrma FC3 kernel: 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma? In-Reply-To: <43BC7AB6.3060008@sonaural.com> References: <43BC7AB6.3060008@sonaural.com> Message-ID: <1136486919.12076.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 17:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote: > when I check with yum or apt-get I still see that > 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma > is the latest ccrma kernel for FC3. Is that right? That is correct, I have a newer one that I did not have time to release before I went on vacation (I have to also build and test some userland stuff from fc4). > Or, are others using the standard kernel now for audio? I don't really know which one will have the best performance for audio work, probably the rdt kernel. -- Fernando From shakti@bayarea.net Fri Jan 6 03:20:02 2006 From: shakti@bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Fri Jan 6 03:20:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Latest ccrma FC3 kernel: 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma? In-Reply-To: <1136486919.12076.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <43BC7AB6.3060008@sonaural.com> <1136486919.12076.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20060106031948.24f4b270.shakti@bayarea.net> Brad said, then Fernando said: > I don't really know which one will have the best performance for audio > work, probably the rdt kernel. I run FC3 and get good results on the machines with the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma kernel. I wouldn't mind trying out a newer one and put it through the paces on FC3 though. We have been doing a lot of testing of kernels on FC4 both on this machine(athlon64 stock 32 bit FC4 and planet setup), and on a AMD dual core(abit AN8 ultra MB, 2 gig ram). Besides testing the audio side of things(like the jack problems) we've been testing the compatibilty with the nvidia drivers. We get most of the same results as Fernando has posted, and it can be very frustrating to see a high end machine go "to hell in a hand basket" trying to do low latency audio. So far the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt for FC4 works about the same as the 2.6.13.. one that Fernando put out. We have been getting a lot of problems with 2.6.14-0.10.rrt on FC4. All of these have better audio latency then any stock FC4 kernel(2.6.12 through 2.6.14) if that helps? You can pretty much forget about running the nvidia drivers on any kernel with premption because the nvidia driver seems to like to hold locks too often. One of my more favorite lines is from the kernel where it tries to be polite with the nvidia driver: kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:02:00.0 into 8x mode kernel: NVRM: Trying to sleep during raised irql!! kernel: NVRM: are we holding a lock? kernel: NVRM: skipping os_delay Overall the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt on FC3 seems the be the most stable of everything so far. I'm not sure about the new jack that was cooked up for FC4, as it doesn't seem to fix anything(and maybe makes more trouble). I do have a question for Fernando: When you compiled the FC3 and FC4 kernels did you do it from a machine running the distribution the kernel is made for? Something in the back of my mind is giving me a suspicious feeling about FC4's gcc also, but that may be from seeing too many ghosts staying up too late testing kernels:) Tracey. From Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr Fri Jan 6 06:13:01 2006 From: Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr (Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale) Date: Fri Jan 6 06:13:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] At last: port to RHEL4 Message-ID: Hi folks, I have (at last) rebuilt (most of) PlanetCCRMA for RHEL4 and its clones (the build was done on CentOS 4.2). So now, although I use it on my home CentOS box and I have begun installing it on the workstations at Ircam, it still needs some more testing. :-) My build is a little outdated, some packages are a few months old, and some don't build at all. Most notably, the kernel I use is still 2.6.10. I hope I will be able to bring everything up to date Real Soon Now(tm). So for those of you who want to test it, here are the relevant config bits: for apt: ========================================================= rpm http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/planetccrma/apt redhat/el4/en/i386 ccrma core ========================================================= for yum: ========================================================= [planetccrma] name=CentOS $releasever - $basearch - Planet CCRMA Apps baseurl=http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/planetccrma/yum/redhat/el$releasever/$basearch/planetccrma/RPMS gpgcheck=0 [planetcore] name=CentOS $releasever - $basearch - Planet CCRMA Core baseurl=http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/planetccrma/yum/redhat/el$releasever/$basearch/planetcore/RPMS gpgcheck=0 ========================================================= Enjoy! :-) -- Arnaud From eviltwin69@cableone.net Fri Jan 6 07:04:01 2006 From: eviltwin69@cableone.net (eviltwin69@cableone.net) Date: Fri Jan 6 07:04:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Latest ccrma FC3 kernel: 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma? Message-ID: <1136561200_97291@S3.cableone.net> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 03:19 , Tracey Hytry sent: >Brad said, then Fernando said: > >> I don't really know which one will have the best performance for audio >> work, probably the rdt kernel. > >I run FC3 and get good results on the machines with the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc3.ccrma kernel. > >I wouldn't mind trying out a newer one and put it through the paces on FC3 though. > >We have been doing a lot of testing of kernels on FC4 both on this machine(athlon64 stock 32 bit FC4 and planet setup), and on a AMD dual core(abit AN8 ultra MB, 2 gig ram). Besides testing the audio side of things(like the jack problems) we've been testing the compatibilty with the nvidia drivers. We get most of the same results as Fernando has posted, and it can be very frustrating to see a high end machine go "to hell in a hand basket" trying to do low latency audio. > >So far the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt for FC4 works about the same as the 2.6.13.. one that Fernando put out. We have been getting a lot of problems with 2.6.14-0.10.rrt on FC4. All of these have better audio latency then any stock FC4 kernel(2.6.12 through 2.6.14) if that helps? > >You can pretty much forget about running the nvidia drivers on any kernel with premption because the nvidia driver seems to like to hold locks too often. One of my more favorite lines is from the kernel where it tries to be polite with the nvidia driver: > Interesting, I haven't had any problems with 2.6.14-0.10.rrt on FC4 (Athlon 64) using the NVIDIA driver. I did have some lock up problems using the Xorg nv driver though. I have not had a repeat since I loaded the NVIDIA driver. Jan From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Fri Jan 6 14:51:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri Jan 6 14:51:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No asfxload binary for awesfx Message-ID: <200601062350.38613.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> Hi Fernando. Having had many complaints about suggesting using sfxload for installing soundfonts, I'm querying why there isn't a binary for asfxload when the awesfx package is installed. Personally, I couldn't give a damn. Whether sfxload, or asfxload loads the soundfonts. As long as I can play midi files, either is good enough for me, but there seems to be some some sort of war going on between Alsa and OSS. If the awesfx package can be rebuilt to include the asfxload binary, I believe this will calm the warmongers down. I have no intentions of moving back to that other OS, but some people on Linux mailing lists seem to give you the impression that even if you dare to critisise Linux, you find yourself on the No 1 hitlist. Nigel. ps: Humans. Hell: Even though my dog bites me now and then, he doesn;t give me all this crap I get off mailing lists from humans. Hell man, they must have so many chips on their shoulders. From n.p.townsend@anglia.ac.uk Sat Jan 7 08:14:02 2006 From: n.p.townsend@anglia.ac.uk (Nick Townsend) Date: Sat Jan 7 08:14:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Mackie Spike (XD-2) support? Message-ID: <20060106123123.62f77861.n.p.townsend@anglia.ac.uk> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has had any experience (good or bad) of getting the Mackie Spike (XD-2) usb audio interface working under linux? I've checked all the usual places and have come up with nothing so far. I'd like to use them in my dual boot a/v lab but am concerned about a potential lack of linux driver support. thanks in advance Nick -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Nick Townsend | Audio Technician | | 0845 196 2599 | n.p.townsend@anglia.ac.uk --------------------------------------- | Department of Design and Technology | Faculty of Science and Technology | Anglia Ruskin University | East Road | Cambridge | CB1 1PT | | http://www.anglia.ac.uk +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From m_nels@gmx.net Sat Jan 7 10:38:02 2006 From: m_nels@gmx.net (Michael T D Nelson) Date: Sat Jan 7 10:38:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Hydrogen won't launch Message-ID: <43C00A7F.5050900@gmx.net> Hi all, I'm running a full updated installation of PlanetCCRMA on FC3. I can't get Hydrogen to start. I see the splash screen, but then the program segfaults. I have appended the output at the terminal to this email. To my very untrained eye, it looks as though some LADSPA plugin is causing problems. Does anyone have any ideas what I should do? Regards, Michael **************************************** Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/hydrogen/data/i18n/hydrogen.en_GB.UTF-8 Hydrogen 0.9.2 [Aug 11 2005] [http://www.hydrogen-music.org] Copyright 2002-2005 Alessandro Cominu Compiled modules: (FLAC) (Jack) (Alsa) (OSS) (LRDF) Hydrogen comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details Using data path: /usr/share/hydrogen/data QSettings::sync: failed to open '/usr/lib/qt-3.3/etc/settings/qt_plugins_3.3rc.tmp' for writing [LadspaFX::load] INIT - /usr/lib/ladspa/cmt.so - freeverb3 [WARNING] LadspaFX [LadspaFX::load] logarithmic hint not implemented yet [WARNING] LadspaFX [LadspaFX::load] logarithmic hint not implemented yet [WARNING] LadspaFX [LadspaFX::load] logarithmic hint not implemented yet [LadspaFX::load] INIT - /usr/lib/ladspa/tap_tubewarmth.so - tap_tubewarmth [LadspaFX::getPluginList] reading directory: /usr/lib/ladspa [LadspaFX::getLadspaFXGroup] [LadspaFX::getPluginList] reading directory: /usr/lib/ladspa Segmentation fault **************************************** From link@sumerianbabyl.com Sun Jan 8 10:08:01 2006 From: link@sumerianbabyl.com (Link Swanson) Date: Sun Jan 8 10:08:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 CCRMA Kernel and ALSA module install fails Message-ID: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Hello everybody, I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install planetccrma-kernel-edge which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa modules. When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following output: [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq The following packages will be upgraded alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils The following packages will be REMOVED: planetccrma-kernel-edge The following NEW packages will be installed: alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig planetccrma-core-edge rtirq 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by kernel-module-alsa-2.6. 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by kernel-module-alsa-2 .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 E: Failed adding /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to transaction (install) E: Transaction set check failed [root@localhost ~]# If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. You all do fine work! Thanks, Link -- e-mail is . . . From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Sun Jan 8 13:02:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Sun Jan 8 13:02:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 CCRMA Kernel and ALSA module install fails In-Reply-To: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> References: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: <200601082200.45183.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Sunday 08 January 2006 19:07, Link Swanson wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. > > apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > > fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install > > planetccrma-kernel-edge > > which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa > modules. > > When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following > output: > > > [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools > alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq > The following packages will be upgraded > alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils > The following packages will be REMOVED: > planetccrma-kernel-edge > The following NEW packages will be installed: > alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig > planetccrma-core-edge rtirq > 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. > After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by > kernel-module-alsa-2.6. > 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by > kernel-module-alsa-2 > .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > E: Failed adding > /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 > 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to > transaction (install) > E: Transaction set check failed > [root@localhost ~]# > > If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA > kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. > > You all do fine work! > > Thanks, > > Link Hi Link. I've got FC4 on CDROMS, but am still looking for a bit of spare harddrive to put it on, but I have FC1,2, and 3. A couple of things to check. Have a look in /var/apt/cache/archives/partial to see if there isn't a partially downloaded package lying there. If there is, you can run apt-get upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade again, and it should complete the download and install it. This may clear the path for new updates. Second. Have a look in synaptic, and see if there is a kernel-alsa-modules for your installed kernel. If there is, install that. This again may solve the problem trying to install the core-edge one. I presume you have synaptic, but if not it's a simple apt-get install synaptic. Nigel. From link@sumerianbabyl.com Sun Jan 8 13:40:03 2006 From: link@sumerianbabyl.com (Link Swanson) Date: Sun Jan 8 13:40:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel source tree for 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma? Message-ID: <7087.216.17.51.98.1136756331.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> On Sun, January 8, 2006 3:00 pm, Nigel Henry said: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 19:07, Link Swanson wrote: >> Hello everybody, >> >> I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. >> >> apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge >> >> fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install >> >> planetccrma-kernel-edge >> >> which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa >> modules. >> >> When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following >> output: >> >> >> [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge >> Reading Package Lists... Done >> Building Dependency Tree... Done >> The following extra packages will be installed: >> alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools >> alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq >> The following packages will be upgraded >> alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils >> The following packages will be REMOVED: >> planetccrma-kernel-edge >> The following NEW packages will be installed: >> alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss >> kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig >> planetccrma-core-edge rtirq >> 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. >> Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. >> After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. >> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y >> kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6. >> 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 >> kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by >> kernel-module-alsa-2 >> .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 >> E: Failed adding >> /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 >> 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to >> transaction (install) >> E: Transaction set check failed >> [root@localhost ~]# >> >> If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA >> kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. >> >> You all do fine work! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Link > > Hi Link. I've got FC4 on CDROMS, but am still looking for a bit of spare > harddrive to put it on, but I have FC1,2, and 3. A couple of things to > check. > Have a look in /var/apt/cache/archives/partial to see if there isn't a > partially downloaded package lying there. If there is, you can run apt-get > upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade again, and it should complete the > download > and install it. This may clear the path for new updates. Second. Have a > look > in synaptic, and see if there is a kernel-alsa-modules for your installed > kernel. If there is, install that. This again may solve the problem trying > to > install the core-edge one. I presume you have synaptic, but if not it's a > simple apt-get install synaptic. Nigel. > Ok, thanks for your help! I have planetccrma-core-edge installed now with the correct version of asla modules. However, I can't seem to install the NVIDIA graphics drivers on this kernel. It says: Unable to find the Kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure that you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red hat Linux systems, for example be sure you have the 'Kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path '--kernel-source-path' commandline option. How do I get the Kernel source tree for 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma installed so that the Nvidia installer can see it? Any help? Thanks Link -- e-mail is . . . -- e-mail is . . . From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Sun Jan 8 14:04:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Sun Jan 8 14:04:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 CCRMA Kernel and ALSA module install fails In-Reply-To: <6128.216.17.51.98.1136756109.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> References: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> <200601082200.45183.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <6128.216.17.51.98.1136756109.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: <200601082302.55558.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Sunday 08 January 2006 22:35, Link Swanson wrote: > Ok, thanks for your help! I have planetccrma-core-edge installed now with > the correct version of asla modules. However, I can't seem to install the > NVIDIA graphics drivers on this kernel. It says > > Unable to find the Kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. > Please make sure that > you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red hat > Linux systems, for > example be sure you have the 'Kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know > the correct kernel > source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path > '--kernel-source-path' > commandline option. > > How do I get the Kernel source tree installed so that the Nvidia installer > can see it? > > Any help? > > Thanks > > Link Hi Link. Nice things are progressing. Fernando has posted the line for apt sources.list for src rpms so many times and I keep deleting it because I don't need them. I will try and find it. Perhaps in the meantime someone will give it to you, otherwise I'll be back. Nigel. > > On Sun, January 8, 2006 3:00 pm, Nigel Henry said: > > On Sunday 08 January 2006 19:07, Link Swanson wrote: > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. > >> > >> apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > >> > >> fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install > >> > >> planetccrma-kernel-edge > >> > >> which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa > >> modules. > >> > >> When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following > >> output: > >> > >> > >> [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > >> Reading Package Lists... Done > >> Building Dependency Tree... Done > >> The following extra packages will be installed: > >> alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools > >> alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq > >> The following packages will be upgraded > >> alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils > >> The following packages will be REMOVED: > >> planetccrma-kernel-edge > >> The following NEW packages will be installed: > >> alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss > >> kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig > >> planetccrma-core-edge rtirq > >> 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. > >> Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. > >> After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. > >> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > >> kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6. > >> 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > >> kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by > >> kernel-module-alsa-2 > >> .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > >> E: Failed adding > >> /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 > >> 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to > >> transaction (install) > >> E: Transaction set check failed > >> [root@localhost ~]# > >> > >> If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA > >> kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. > >> > >> You all do fine work! > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Link > > > > Hi Link. I've got FC4 on CDROMS, but am still looking for a bit of spare > > harddrive to put it on, but I have FC1,2, and 3. A couple of things to > > check. > > Have a look in /var/apt/cache/archives/partial to see if there isn't a > > partially downloaded package lying there. If there is, you can run > > apt-get upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade again, and it should complete > > the download > > and install it. This may clear the path for new updates. Second. Have a > > look > > in synaptic, and see if there is a kernel-alsa-modules for your installed > > kernel. If there is, install that. This again may solve the problem > > trying to > > install the core-edge one. I presume you have synaptic, but if not it's a > > simple apt-get install synaptic. Nigel. From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Sun Jan 8 15:22:00 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Sun Jan 8 15:22:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 CCRMA Kernel and ALSA module install fails In-Reply-To: <6128.216.17.51.98.1136756109.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> References: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> <200601082200.45183.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <6128.216.17.51.98.1136756109.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: <200601090020.22718.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Sunday 08 January 2006 22:35, Link Swanson wrote: > Ok, thanks for your help! I have planetccrma-core-edge installed now with > the correct version of asla modules. However, I can't seem to install the > NVIDIA graphics drivers on this kernel. It says > > Unable to find the Kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. > Please make sure that > you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red hat > Linux systems, for > example be sure you have the 'Kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know > the correct kernel > source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path > '--kernel-source-path' > commandline option. > > How do I get the Kernel source tree installed so that the Nvidia installer > can see it? > > Any help? > > Thanks > > Link Hi Link. Sorry I can't find the line for the apt sources.list, for the kernel-src-rpm's anywhere. You may have to post to the planetccrma list specifically for that, and sadly I know nothing about Nvidia. Both my onboard video cards just work on Linux. Hope you get the rest fixed. Nigel. > > On Sun, January 8, 2006 3:00 pm, Nigel Henry said: > > On Sunday 08 January 2006 19:07, Link Swanson wrote: > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. > >> > >> apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > >> > >> fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install > >> > >> planetccrma-kernel-edge > >> > >> which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa > >> modules. > >> > >> When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following > >> output: > >> > >> > >> [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > >> Reading Package Lists... Done > >> Building Dependency Tree... Done > >> The following extra packages will be installed: > >> alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools > >> alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq > >> The following packages will be upgraded > >> alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils > >> The following packages will be REMOVED: > >> planetccrma-kernel-edge > >> The following NEW packages will be installed: > >> alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss > >> kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig > >> planetccrma-core-edge rtirq > >> 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. > >> Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. > >> After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. > >> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > >> kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by > >> kernel-module-alsa-2.6. > >> 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > >> kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by > >> kernel-module-alsa-2 > >> .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > >> E: Failed adding > >> /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 > >> 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to > >> transaction (install) > >> E: Transaction set check failed > >> [root@localhost ~]# > >> > >> If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA > >> kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. > >> > >> You all do fine work! > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Link > > > > Hi Link. I've got FC4 on CDROMS, but am still looking for a bit of spare > > harddrive to put it on, but I have FC1,2, and 3. A couple of things to > > check. > > Have a look in /var/apt/cache/archives/partial to see if there isn't a > > partially downloaded package lying there. If there is, you can run > > apt-get upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade again, and it should complete > > the download > > and install it. This may clear the path for new updates. Second. Have a > > look > > in synaptic, and see if there is a kernel-alsa-modules for your installed > > kernel. If there is, install that. This again may solve the problem > > trying to > > install the core-edge one. I presume you have synaptic, but if not it's a > > simple apt-get install synaptic. Nigel. From link@sumerianbabyl.com Sun Jan 8 16:40:01 2006 From: link@sumerianbabyl.com (Link Swanson) Date: Sun Jan 8 16:40:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] apt sources.list for latest FC4 edge kernel Message-ID: <59940.216.17.51.98.1136767155.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> I need to install NVIDIA drivers and it requires the "kernel source tree" for my kernel. How do I get it so that the installer can see it? Thanks Link -- e-mail is . . . -- e-mail is . . . -- e-mail is . . . From patrik.elmberg@comhem.se Mon Jan 9 00:20:02 2006 From: patrik.elmberg@comhem.se (Patrik Elmberg) Date: Mon Jan 9 00:20:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] apt sources.list for latest FC4 edge kernel In-Reply-To: <59940.216.17.51.98.1136767155.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> References: <59940.216.17.51.98.1136767155.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: <43C21BAB.6010204@comhem.se> Hi Link, Not answering your question regarding apt, but: The SRPMS directory as pointed out by Fernando a few days ago: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/ To build the NVIDIA driver however, you only need the kernel-devel-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma which contains the necessary headers and makefiles. Cheers /Patrik Link Swanson wrote: > I need to install NVIDIA drivers and it requires the "kernel source tree" > for my kernel. How do I get it so that the installer can see it? > > Thanks > > Link > From patrik.elmberg@comhem.se Mon Jan 9 00:41:01 2006 From: patrik.elmberg@comhem.se (Patrik Elmberg) Date: Mon Jan 9 00:41:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] apt sources.list for latest FC4 edge kernel In-Reply-To: <43C21BAB.6010204@comhem.se> References: <59940.216.17.51.98.1136767155.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> <43C21BAB.6010204@comhem.se> Message-ID: <43C22177.4000805@comhem.se> Disregard the comment about the SRPMS, I misinterpretated things. /Patrik Patrik Elmberg wrote: > Hi Link, > > Not answering your question regarding apt, but: > > The SRPMS directory as pointed out by Fernando a few days ago: > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/ > > To build the NVIDIA driver however, you only need the > kernel-devel-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma which contains the necessary > headers and makefiles. > > Cheers > > /Patrik > > Link Swanson wrote: > >> I need to install NVIDIA drivers and it requires the "kernel source tree" >> for my kernel. How do I get it so that the installer can see it? >> >> Thanks >> >> Link >> > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From shakti@bayarea.net Mon Jan 9 03:20:02 2006 From: shakti@bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Mon Jan 9 03:20:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 edge kernel, etc Message-ID: <20060109031855.3e6cdb82.shakti@bayarea.net> Just a quick note for those who may need the info, The planet edge kernels and other stuff can be gotten in pieces from: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetedge/4/i386/ If you install a kernel you should install it's matching kernel-devel to be able to compile things like the nvidia drivers. You should also install the correct kernel-module-alsa package along with the new alsa packages if needed. So to install the kernel headers to be able to compile the nvidia driver with the 2.6.14-0.10.rrt kernel you could do: rpm -ivh kernel-devel-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma.i686.rpm There may be some dependencies and it's better to do this all through apt-get if you can. You can get the extra rpms if you insist on manually installing from http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/4/i386/ On the planet's changelog page(http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html) there are directions for setting up your apt system for the newest kernels. Be sure to fix up your "/etc/apt/apt.conf" as shown in the planet's changlog: Allow-Duplicated { "^kernel(-(BOOT|.*devel|smp|bigmem|debug|doc|source.*)|)$"; "^gpg-pubkey$"; }; This will allow you to do an apt-get install of the kernel-devel packages without an error. Beware that the nvidia drivers don't play well with the newest edge kernels if installed on a dual-core machine using the smp kernels etc. Because jack also has some problems on smp there are new jack rpms in the edge section. Please refer to the changlog page the get the scoop on setting it all up using apt-get. Tracey. From theremin@free.fr Mon Jan 9 05:56:01 2006 From: theremin@free.fr (Christian Frisson) Date: Mon Jan 9 05:56:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] The Yum and Apt Highlander battle Message-ID: <1136814896.43c26b30b3173@imp5-g19.free.fr> Heyall, The subjective wars aside, I've been using apt-get / synaptic since Planet CCRMA's debut and I'm been interesting myself lately into yum as it's the only and prefered (sic) way for Fedora updates (for example using the Livna repository). I've only tested its kyum and yumex GUIs so far: the two main drawbacks I find in there are slowliness and less enhanced database functions than in Synaptic (categories / state / filters)... It bet it's due to yum's youth. I hope repositories maintainers will all stick for the same one of the two only, because I'm already starting to face package discrepancies... In other words, how do you see it in the future, Fernando? ,-) Cheers, Christian From theremin@free.fr Mon Jan 9 06:07:02 2006 From: theremin@free.fr (Christian Frisson) Date: Mon Jan 9 06:07:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: The Yum and Apt Highlander battle In-Reply-To: <1136814896.43c26b30b3173@imp5-g19.free.fr> References: <1136814896.43c26b30b3173@imp5-g19.free.fr> Message-ID: <1136815569.43c26dd128cb6@imp1-g19.free.fr> Let's say this thread is a kind of refresh of the latter "Easy to install yum/smart/up2date configuration rpm": http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2005-December/010881.html From doc.evans@gmail.com Mon Jan 9 17:11:02 2006 From: doc.evans@gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon Jan 9 17:11:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Q: How to select files in GNOME? In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900601031755v9e1b08as@mail.gmail.com> <20060104115414.GB14458@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBE887.6010907@gmail.com> <20060104153903.GD21093@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <43BBF31F.7080400@gmail.com> <1136412295.21358.1.camel@eviltwin> <43BC68D2.7070605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900601091710m5ff69ddbm@mail.gmail.com> On 04/01/06, Luis Garrido wrote: > To me it sounds as some funny permission thing. Try to log in as root > and see if you get the same results. > I do. It seems to affect all the GNOME file selection boxes. For example, if I try to export a track in ardour and hit "Browse", then I see a box with my subdirectories on the left side and wav files on the side; clicking on a wav file causes it to appear in the text widget (or whatever it's called) near the bottom of the box. So that seems to be fine. But if instead of clicking on the right hand column, I try to select a subdirectory, then nothing I do will change the box at all. I can sit there clicking or double clicking on subdirectories as much as I like -- nothing happens. So... all I can conclude is that there's something hosed with the GNOME installation. So how do I reinstall it without reinstalling a bunch of ther stuff that seems ot be working just fine. (I've never used apt before, so I am clueless about this stuffl I am used to urpmi.) From geoff@mh2o.com Tue Jan 10 16:49:03 2006 From: geoff@mh2o.com (Geoff Matters) Date: Tue Jan 10 16:49:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Problem with virmidi, CCRMA, FCP4, 2.6.14-0.10.rrt Message-ID: <20060108023148.19732.qmail@web53404.mail.yahoo.com> I am using FCP4 with CCRMA and the planet-edge 2.6.14-0.10.rrt kernel and alsa modules @ 686. Boots fine. Kernel runs smoothly - i no longer have problems with JACK failing to feed devices when other high-priority tasks are temporarily hogging the CPU. However there is a problem with the virmidi module. modprobe -a snd-virmidi gives seg fault. # tail /var/log/messages Jan 7 20:57:33 localhost kernel: [] bus_add_device+0x2e/0xb0 (12) Jan 7 20:57:33 localhost kernel: [] device_add+0xe0/0x130 (20) Jan 7 20:57:33 localhost kernel: [] platform_device_register+0x13d/0x190 (36) Jan 7 20:57:33 localhost kernel: [] snd_generic_device_register+0x68/0xc0 [snd] (40) Jan 7 20:57:33 localhost kernel: [] snd_card_set_generic_dev+0x8/0x40 [snd] (28) Jan 7 20:57:34 localhost kernel: [] snd_card_virmidi_probe+0x137/0x1b0 [snd_virmidi] (8) Jan 7 20:57:34 localhost kernel: [] alsa_card_virmidi_init+0x22/0x60 [snd_virmidi] (60) Jan 7 20:57:34 localhost kernel: [] sys_init_module+0xa7/0x1e0 (16) Jan 7 20:57:34 localhost kernel: [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb (24) Jan 7 20:57:34 localhost kernel: Code: Bad EIP value. BUG: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 printing eip: 00000000 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT Modules linked in: snd_virmidi(U) snd_seq_virmidi(U) udf(U) i915(U) parport_pc(U) lp(U) parport(U) autofs4(U) rfcomm(U) l2cap(U) bluetooth(U) sunrpc(U) pcmcia(U) snd_usb_audio(U) snd_usb_lib(U) ipt_REJECT(U) ipt_state(U) ip_conntrack(U) nfnetlink(U) iptable_filter(U) ip_tables(U) snd_hdsp(U) snd_rawmidi(U) snd_hwdep(U) video(U) container(U) button(U) battery(U) ac(U) ipv6(U) ohci1394(U) ieee1394(U) yenta_socket(U) rsrc_nonstatic(U) pcmcia_core(U) uhci_hcd(U) ehci_hcd(U) hw_random(U) tpm_atmel(U) tpm(U) i2c_i801(U) i2c_core(U) snd_intel8x0m(U) snd_intel8x0(U) snd_ac97_codec(U) snd_ac97_bus(U) snd_seq_dummy(U) snd_seq_oss(U) snd_seq_midi_event(U) snd_seq(U) snd_seq_device(U) snd_pcm_oss(U) snd_mixer_oss(U) snd_pcm(U) snd_timer(U) snd(U) soundcore(U) snd_page_alloc(U) ipw2200(U) ieee80211(U) ieee80211_crypt(U) b44(U) mii(U) dm_snapshot(U) dm_zero(U) dm_mirror(U) ext3(U) jbd(U) dm_mod(U) CPU: 0 EIP: 0060:[<00000000>] Not tainted VLI EFLAGS: 00010286 (2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma) EIP is at _stext+0x3feffde0/0x40 eax: d369da14 ebx: 00000000 ecx: 00000008 edx: df97d9f4 esi: df97d9f4 edi: d369da1c ebp: c03cb940 esp: cd415e7c ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 preempt: 00000001 Process modprobe (pid: 3519, threadinfo=cd414000 task=cdaba980 stack_left=7752 worst_left=-1) Stack: df96e00c c026789e df97da90 cd415ea4 c0351afa 00000000 00000000 d369db4c d369da1c c026707c c03cbacc c03cbaec df97da8c d369da1c d369db4c c03cb940 00000000 c026799b c0267930 d369da1c d369da1c c02671be d369da1c d369db38 Call Trace: [] snd_platform_driver_probe+0xc/0x10 [snd] (4) [] driver_probe_device+0x3e/0xd0 (4) [] klist_next+0x4a/0x68 (12) [] bus_for_each_drv+0x3c/0x60 (20) [] device_attach+0x5b/0x80 (32) [] __device_attach+0x0/0x10 (4) [] bus_add_device+0x2e/0xb0 (12) [] device_add+0xe0/0x130 (20) [] platform_device_register+0x13d/0x190 (36) [] snd_generic_device_register+0x68/0xc0 [snd] (40) [] snd_card_set_generic_dev+0x8/0x40 [snd] (28) [] snd_card_virmidi_probe+0x137/0x1b0 [snd_virmidi] (8) [] alsa_card_virmidi_init+0x22/0x60 [snd_virmidi] (60) [] sys_init_module+0xa7/0x1e0 (16) [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb (24) Code: Bad EIP value. seems to be the same problem described here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.devel/29267 and here: http://www.mail-archive.com/blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org/msg03641.html seems his problems was solved by a patch: http://www.mail-archive.com/blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org/msg03698.html but i can't find the post with the patch! Any advice? Any chance of new module package including the mystery patch referenced above? I rely on virmidi, so without a fix i'll be stuck troubleshooting JACK performance on non-RT kernel. Many thanks! -geoff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From klangmeister@gmail.com Wed Jan 11 06:54:01 2006 From: klangmeister@gmail.com (Roman Katzer) Date: Wed Jan 11 06:54:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? Message-ID: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, how can I list pacgakes available through apt? There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list". I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find something like that _quickly_? Roman -- QOTD: "Of course the people don't want war [...] that is understood. But voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That's easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." (Hermann Goering) From michael@berkowski.net Wed Jan 11 07:41:02 2006 From: michael@berkowski.net (Michael Berkowski) Date: Wed Jan 11 07:41:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] maestro3 looping problem on 2.6 kernels / FC4 Message-ID: <20060111154143.0iw4owp3pmo8og40@204.13.154.5> Greetings All, After a long time running VectorLinux with a 2.4.29 kernel on my old HP laptop and no sound problems at all, I decided to switch to a newer kernel and different distribution (Vector's pcmcia was too unreliable). I've since tried Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, and then installed FC4 for better compatibility with my FC/planetccrma desktop system. All of these distributions on various 2.6.x kernels seem to have problems with my ESS Allegro 1988 (maestro3) sound device that 2.4 kernels never had. Basically, the problem is that when playing back audio from disk, the device will loop ~500ms of the file about 20x before moving to the next 500ms of the file. The correct modules (snd-maestro3) are loaded. Samplerate and bitrate have no effect on this and any streaming audio works fine. The behaviour is there whether I am running OSS or ALSA. Streaming net radio works without issue, as does Pd with either ALSA or Jack. The problem only occurs with aplay or any application reading from disk, such as Hydrogen. I have read various reports of this problem in FC and Ubuntu all over the internet, but none that I have found has offered a solution. Someone on the Linux Audio User list thought it might be an IRQ problem (the device is using IRQ 5 in 2.6.x and used IRQ7 in 2.4.x). My questions to all of you are these: Is anyone running FC4 with the ESS Allegro Maestro 3 sound device? Have you encountered the problem I have described? If maestro3 support is broken on 2.6 kernels, I have no problem rolling back to FC1 and 2.4.x, as that's what my desktop runs anyway. Thanks much for any advice, Michael Berkowski http://www.berkowski.net/ From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Wed Jan 11 07:45:03 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Wed Jan 11 07:45:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? In-Reply-To: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200601111644.05644.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:52, Roman Katzer wrote: > Hi all, > > how can I list pacgakes available through apt? > There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list". > > I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries > to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find > something like that _quickly_? > > Roman Hi Roman. Synaptic the GUI for apt-get should solve your problems. apt-get install synaptic If you want the alphabetical list to display on it, you will have to change the "View" on it's main menu to "Flat List". Nigel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > QOTD: > "Of course the people don't want war [...] that is understood. But > voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of > the leaders. That's easy. All you have to do is tell them they are > being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and > for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." > (Hermann Goering) > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 11 08:38:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 11 08:38:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? In-Reply-To: <200601111644.05644.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> References: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> <200601111644.05644.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> Message-ID: <1136997427.22961.13.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:44 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:52, Roman Katzer wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > how can I list pacgakes available through apt? > > There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list". > > > > I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries > > to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find > > something like that _quickly_? > > > > Roman > > Hi Roman. Synaptic the GUI for apt-get should solve your problems. > apt-get install synaptic > If you want the alphabetical list to display on it, you will have to change > the "View" on it's main menu to "Flat List". Nigel. Or, from the command line use "apt-cache", see "man apt-cache" for details... -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 11 08:43:03 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 11 08:43:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] The Yum and Apt Highlander battle In-Reply-To: <1136814896.43c26b30b3173@imp5-g19.free.fr> References: <1136814896.43c26b30b3173@imp5-g19.free.fr> Message-ID: <1136997646.22961.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:54 +0100, Christian Frisson wrote: > Heyall, > > The subjective wars aside, I've been using apt-get / synaptic since Planet > CCRMA's debut and I'm been interesting myself lately into yum as it's the only > and prefered (sic) way for Fedora updates (for example using the Livna > repository). I've only tested its kyum and yumex GUIs so far: the two main > drawbacks I find in there are slowliness and less enhanced database functions > than in Synaptic (categories / state / filters)... It bet it's due to yum's > youth. > > I hope repositories maintainers will all stick for the same one of the two only, > because I'm already starting to face package discrepancies... In other words, > how do you see it in the future, Fernando? ,-) Fast "vacation mode" answer: yum is the long term answer (if only because apt does not / cannot support x86_86 distros). But yum still does not have a good gui on the level of synaptic, or (AFAIK) good (or any?) support for versioned cdroms like apt (ie: you feed the cdroms to apt-cdrom and then it asks for the right one for packages you want to install). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 11 08:47:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 11 08:47:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC4 CCRMA Kernel and ALSA module install fails In-Reply-To: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> References: <58002.216.17.51.98.1136743625.squirrel@www.sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: <1136998007.22961.24.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:07 -0600, Link Swanson wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'm a half-newb trying to install the FC4 CCRMA Kernel and alsa-modules. > > apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > > fails due to alsa-utils discrepencies. I managed to install > > planetccrma-kernel-edge > > which installed the 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma kernel, but no alsa modules. > > When I try apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge, I get the following output: > > > [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > alsa-driver alsa-firmware alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss alsa-tools > alsa-utils kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig rtirq > The following packages will be upgraded > alsa-driver alsa-lib alsa-tools alsa-utils > The following packages will be REMOVED: > planetccrma-kernel-edge > The following NEW packages will be installed: > alsa-firmware alsa-lib-devel alsa-oss kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel#2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma > kernel-module-alsa-2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma pkgconfig > planetccrma-core-edge rtirq > 4 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 removed and 186 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/68.1MB of archives. > After unpacking 175MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > kernel = 2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma is needed by > kernel-module-alsa-2.6. > 13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 > kernel-2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-i686 is needed by > kernel-module-alsa-2 > .6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma-1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma.i686 Hmmm, I don't know why it is trying to install 2.6.13-0.3.rdt, it should only need 2.6.14-0.10.rrt, what kernel are you running and/or have installed right now? Apparently something is requiring 2.6.13-0.3.rdt. See what you have in terms of planetccrma meta packages: rpm -q -a | grep planetccrma What alsa related packages do you currently have? rpm -q -a | grep ^alsa -- Fernando > E: Failed adding > /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel#2.6.13-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_2.6.1 > 3-0.3.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma_i686.rpm to > transaction (install) > E: Transaction set check failed > [root@localhost ~]# > If someone could help me get the best-performing, most stable FC4 CCRMA > kernel and alsa modules installed, I would GREATLY appreciate it. From pirrone@localnet.com Wed Jan 11 09:03:01 2006 From: pirrone@localnet.com (pirrone@localnet.com) Date: Wed Jan 11 09:03:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? In-Reply-To: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060111120149.xqyjfw3r6800cs4g@webmail.localnet.com> This message is in MIME format. --=_54zj89yjzjsw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Description: Plaintext Version of Message Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quoting Roman Katzer : > Hi all, > > how can I list pacgakes available through apt? > There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list". > > I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries > to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find > something like that _quickly_? > > Roman > Two things Roman, apt-cache dumpavail and synaptic search --=_54zj89yjzjsw Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Description: HTML Version of Message Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quoting Roman Katzer <klangmeister@googlemail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> how can I list pacgakes available through apt?
> There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list".
>
> I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries
> to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find
> something like that _quickly_?
>
> Roman
>
Two things Roman, apt-cache dumpavail and synaptic search --=_54zj89yjzjsw-- From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Wed Jan 11 09:23:00 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Wed Jan 11 09:23:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? In-Reply-To: <1136997427.22961.13.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> <200601111644.05644.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1136997427.22961.13.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200601111822.14420.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Wednesday 11 January 2006 17:37, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:44 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:52, Roman Katzer wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > how can I list pacgakes available through apt? > > > There doesn't seem to be a command comparable to "yum list". > > > > > > I was looking for the correct package name for X11 developer libraries > > > to use with apt-get. Turns out it's xorg-x11-devel, but how do I find > > > something like that _quickly_? > > > > > > Roman > > > > Hi Roman. Synaptic the GUI for apt-get should solve your problems. > > apt-get install synaptic > > If you want the alphabetical list to display on it, you will have to > > change the "View" on it's main menu to "Flat List". Nigel. > > Or, from the command line use "apt-cache", see "man apt-cache" for > details... > > -- Fernando Hi Fernando. Roman mailed be back offlist, and I only realised this after trawling through man pages, suggesting he look in man apt-cache, and pressing the send button, but at least my info to him was ok. Where and how does apt-get update store the package list info. Presumably it's not in a human readable form, as I'd also rooted around in /var and found nothing resembling a package list. Nigel. > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From viipoundproductions@yahoo.com Wed Jan 11 11:18:02 2006 From: viipoundproductions@yahoo.com (7lb9oz Productions) Date: Wed Jan 11 11:18:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Laptop Install?? Message-ID: <20060111191714.94921.qmail@web34906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1451420802-1137007034=:93208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, I have just recently bought a Toshiba Satellite M45-S169, and I am having a little trouble as far as getting linux installed. I have tried both a Ubuntu Live CD as well as the Fedora Core 3 install cd, both of which do not work. With the Live CD, it will boot but cannot start the X server. With Fedora Core it boots, but hangs just as it is about to start the graphical install. I would prefer to use Fedora Core as that is the OS I am using on my desktop, but since this laptop is more just to have with me at work/school I am not so picky about what distro it runs. Does anyone have any advice on how to get linux running on this particular laptop? Does anyone know if it may not even be possible? I appologize in advance if this is a basic or stupid question, but this is the first laptop I have owned so I am kind of on a new learning curve. Thanks in advance, SMH --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --0-1451420802-1137007034=:93208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello all,

I have just recently bought a Toshiba Satellite M45-S169, and I am having a little trouble as far as getting linux installed. I have tried both a Ubuntu Live CD as well as the Fedora Core 3 install cd, both of which do not work.

With the Live CD, it will boot but cannot start the X server. With Fedora Core it boots, but hangs just as it is about to start the graphical install.

I would prefer to use Fedora Core as that is the OS I am using on my desktop, but since this laptop is more just to have with me at work/school I am not so picky about what distro it runs.

Does anyone have any advice on how to get linux running on this particular laptop? Does anyone know if it may not even be possible?

I appologize in advance if this is a basic or stupid question, but this is the first laptop I have owned so I am kind of on a new learning curve.

Thanks in advance,

SMH

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Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --0-1451420802-1137007034=:93208-- From klangmeister@gmail.com Wed Jan 11 11:27:58 2006 From: klangmeister@gmail.com (Roman Katzer) Date: Wed Jan 11 11:27:58 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how can I list available packages? In-Reply-To: <200601111822.14420.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> References: <7f04b05d0601110652n67d15ebfo@mail.gmail.com> <200601111644.05644.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1136997427.22961.13.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <200601111822.14420.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> Message-ID: <7f04b05d0601111122s33dc99a2h@mail.gmail.com> Hi Nigel et al, On 11/01/06, Nigel Henry wrote: > Roman mailed be back offlist Oops. Sorry, I didn't even realize that until just now; it was meant to go to this list. > suggesting he look in man apt-cache I did look at that now. Thanks to everybody here! Roman -- From weav@sigma.net Wed Jan 11 22:24:01 2006 From: weav@sigma.net (Eric Weaver) Date: Wed Jan 11 22:24:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Overruns using arecord on the 2.6.9-2.3.rdt kernel on FC3... Message-ID: <43C5F5CE.8030200@sigma.net> I am using "arecord" to capture stuff on the 2.6.9-2.3 rdt kernel. I set arecord's scheduling to SCHEDULE_FIFO / 98. Still get overruns and audible skips. Just now tried decreasing the period size to 1/3 the buffer size, from the standard 1/2 to see if that improves anything. I've tried 2.6.12 rdt but can't get alsa and/or the AudioScience asihpi driver to work on it. Anything I'm overlooking? Thanks... From shakti@bayarea.net Wed Jan 11 23:43:01 2006 From: shakti@bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Wed Jan 11 23:43:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Overruns using arecord on the 2.6.9-2.3.rdt kernel on FC3... In-Reply-To: <43C5F5CE.8030200@sigma.net> References: <43C5F5CE.8030200@sigma.net> Message-ID: <20060111234235.386adbfd.shakti@bayarea.net> When you are using the 2.6.9-2.3 rdt kernel could you check the following: Do a "cat /proc/asound/version" Then do a "rpm -qi alsa-driver" and "rpm -qi alsa-lib" Could you also check /proc/asound/version on the 2.6.12 rdt you are trying to use? I also have some problems with a few drivers on the FC3 kernels. This is just a guess on my part, but I think there are a few drivers that need to be updated to fit the preemption models. I think this will get sorted out in a little while, though it doesn't hurt to bring any driver problems into public view. If a driver will not load you might want to try doing "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound stop" and then "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start" and check the end of /var/log/messages for errors and if it looks like a driver/kernel problem bring it to our attention. As an aside, the kernel is still changing quite rapidly and I tink we may see a few broken drivers here and there for a while(at least for us folks who are using "edge" kernels to get decent audio from our systems). Tracey. From nathanielvirgo@gmail.com Thu Jan 12 14:56:01 2006 From: nathanielvirgo@gmail.com (Nathaniel Virgo) Date: Thu Jan 12 14:56:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa for older Planet kernels Message-ID: ------=_Part_59065_31975020.1137106552874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I want to go back to using the old Planet kernel 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrmabecause for some reason{*} my desktop tends to be really sluggish on newer ones (Planet or otherwise) (and I'm sure I had better performance from Jack apps in the old days as well). The problem is I can't get audio to work at all on that kernel. When trying to start alsa at boot time it claims that alsa is already running, and programs are not able to open the sound devices. I'm guessing this is because the latest and greatest ALSA version= s are not compatible with the old kernel, so could someone reccommend a version to try that does work? {*} Newer kernels say "PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@f0000000 for 0000:01:00.0" right at the beginning of the boot process. Could this have anything to do with it? It's pretty meaningless to me but I'm guessing it means they don't agree with my hardware very well= . thanks in advance for any help Nathaniel ------=_Part_59065_31975020.1137106552874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I want to go back to using the old Planet kernel 2.6.12-0.21.rdt= .rhfc4.ccrma because for some reason{*} my desktop tends to be really slugg= ish on newer ones (Planet or otherwise) (and I'm sure I had better performa= nce from Jack apps in the old days as well). The problem is I can't g= et audio to work at all on that kernel. When trying to start alsa at = boot time it claims that alsa is already running, and programs are not able= to open the sound devices. I'm guessing this is because the latest a= nd greatest ALSA versions are not compatible with the old kernel, so could = someone reccommend a version to try that does work?

{*} Newer kernels say "PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6= :20000@f0000000 for 0000:01:00.0" right at the beginning of the boot p= rocess. Could this have anything to do with it? It's pretty mea= ningless to me but I'm guessing it means they don't agree with my hardware = very well.

thanks in advance for any help

Nathaniel
------=_Part_59065_31975020.1137106552874-- From Solv Fri Jan 13 05:06:01 2006 From: Solv (Solv (sent by Nabble.com)) Date: Fri Jan 13 05:06:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa-lib,devel and alsa-utils package Message-ID: <2361032.post@talk.nabble.com> ------=_Part_99_11590635.1137157498214 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that there is an error in the configuration of the repo, as apt detects an upgrade of these packages to the standard FC4 package, and I have to force the version to the ccrma one to get it to stay put. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/alsa-lib%2Cdevel-and-alsa-utils-package-t910570.html#a2361032 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General forum at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_99_11590635.1137157498214 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that there is an error in the configuration of the repo, as apt detects an upgrade of these packages to the standard FC4 package, and I have to force the version to the ccrma one to get it to stay put.

View this message in context: alsa-lib,devel and alsa-utils package
Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General forum at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_99_11590635.1137157498214-- From matt1@mattmarian.homelinux.com Fri Jan 13 08:13:01 2006 From: matt1@mattmarian.homelinux.com (Matt Marian) Date: Fri Jan 13 08:13:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa-lib,devel and alsa-utils package In-Reply-To: <2361032.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <2361032.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <43C7D1C0.2080506@mattmarian.homelinux.com> Solv (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: > It seems that there is an error in the configuration of the repo, as > apt detects an upgrade of these packages to the standard FC4 package, > and I have to force the version to the ccrma one to get it to stay put. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > View this message in context: alsa-lib,devel and alsa-utils package > > Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General > forum at > Nabble.com. I have been getting the same for about a week now - with no other updates listed. had wondered If I have something setup incorrectly. System has been functioning fine for several months now- ( at least it SEEMED to be ok ) What I mean is I don't believe I changed anything on my end IE - being too clever and messing up the config any thoughts ? thanks Matt From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jan 13 08:20:02 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jan 13 08:20:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa-lib,devel and alsa-utils package In-Reply-To: <2361032.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <2361032.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1137169150.16083.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 05:04 -0800, Solv (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: > It seems that there is an error in the configuration of the repo, as > apt detects an upgrade of these packages to the standard FC4 package, > and I have to force the version to the ccrma one to get it to stay > put. I think fc4 released an update that has a higher release number than the Planet CCRMA package. It is not the original fc4 package. Should not be a problem to update to that (I think...) -- Fernando From nathanielvirgo@gmail.com Fri Jan 13 12:27:01 2006 From: nathanielvirgo@gmail.com (Nathaniel Virgo) Date: Fri Jan 13 12:27:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Please help: audio not working! Message-ID: ------=_Part_66801_9608455.1137183771470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I had misdiagnosed the problem in my previous message: the actual problem i= s that audio has stopped working on this machine, period. I don't know if th= e information I'm giving below is useful so please let me know if there's anything else I can tell you. I might have a gig in a few weeks so I reall= y need to get sound working again. I use smarrt to keep my system up to date which means I have packages installed from a variety of apt repositories but I'm running a Planet kernel. I'm not sure whether the problem started after an upgrade but I assume it must have done. When it started I was using alsa-lib 1.0.10-26.rhfc4.at (not sure if it started when this was installed though) and apps were not able to open the sound devices, as if they were being blocked by another program (but they weren't). I downgraded to 1.0.10-1.rhfc4.ccrma but now if I try to use, say, aplay I get ALSA lib pcm.c:1969:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM dmix:0 definition (id: dmix, value: cards.pcm.dmix) aplay: main:544: audio open error: Invalid argument When the package was being installed I got messages about /etc/alsa/pcm/dmix.conf and dsnoop.conf being saved as dmix.conf.rpmsave an= d dsnoop.conf.rpmsave respectively. This lead to some different error messages to the ones above so I coped the rpmsaves into the files they conflicted with and rebooted, which lead to the errors above. I really hope somebody can help me. Nathaniel ------=_Part_66801_9608455.1137183771470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I had misdiagnosed the problem in my previous message: the actua= l problem is that audio has stopped working on this machine, period. = I don't know if the information I'm giving below is useful so please let me= know if there's anything else I can tell you. I might have a gig in = a few weeks so I really need to get sound working again.

I use smarrt to keep my system up to date which means I have packag= es installed from a variety of apt repositories but I'm running a Planet ke= rnel. I'm not sure whether the problem started after an upgrade= but I assume it must have done. When it started I was using alsa-lib= =20 1.0.10-26.rhfc4.at (not sure if i= t started when this was installed though) and apps were not able to open th= e sound devices, as if they were being blocked by another program (but they= weren't). I downgraded to=20 1.0.10-1.rhfc4.ccrma but now if I try to use, say, aplay I get

ALSA= lib pcm.c:1969:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM dmix:0 definition = (id: dmix, value: cards.pcm.dmix)
aplay: main:544: audio open error: Inv= alid argument

When the package was being installed I got messages about /etc/alsa= /pcm/dmix.conf and dsnoop.conf being saved as dmix.conf.rpmsave and dsnoop.= conf.rpmsave respectively. This lead to some different error messages= to the ones above so I coped the rpmsaves into the files they conflicted w= ith and rebooted, which lead to the errors above.

I really hope somebody can help me.

Nathaniel

------=_Part_66801_9608455.1137183771470-- From brad@sonaural.com Mon Jan 16 10:14:01 2006 From: brad@sonaural.com (Brad Fuller) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:14:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] [Fwd: Fedora Core 3 Transferred to Fedora Legacy] Message-ID: <43CBE1F8.7000702@sonaural.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020804000707030906040202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit y'all see this? What are the implications, if any, for PlanetCCRMA? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fedora Core 3 Transferred to Fedora Legacy Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:04:51 -0500 From: Bill Nottingham Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com To: fedora-announce-list@redhat.com CC: fedora-list@redhat.com With the release of Fedora Core 5 Test 2, the Fedora Core Steering Committee would like to announce the transfer of Fedora Core 3 to the Fedora Legacy Project. For more information on the Fedora Legacy Project, or if you wish to join the team, please see http://fedoralegacy.org/. -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list --------------020804000707030906040202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit y'all see this?
What are the implications, if any, for PlanetCCRMA?

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With the release of Fedora Core 5 Test 2, the Fedora Core Steering
Committee would like to announce the transfer of Fedora Core 3 to
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--------------020804000707030906040202-- From weav@sigma.net Mon Jan 16 12:12:01 2006 From: weav@sigma.net (Eric Weaver) Date: Mon Jan 16 12:12:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Overruns using arecord on the 2.6.9-2.3.rdt kernel on FC3... In-Reply-To: <20060112200004.14249.71824.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20060112200004.14249.71824.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <43CBFDDF.9060709@sigma.net> > Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:42:35 -0800 From: Tracey Hytry > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: > [PlanetCCRMA] Overruns using arecord on the 2.6.9-2.3.rdt kernel on > FC3... Organization: Aurinia > > When you are using the 2.6.9-2.3 rdt kernel could you check the > following: Do a "cat /proc/asound/version" Then do a "rpm -qi > alsa-driver" and "rpm -qi alsa-lib" Could you also check > /proc/asound/version on the 2.6.12 rdt you are trying to use? It's 1.0.11rc2; I built it from the tarballs myself. This is the case in both 2.6.9 and 2.6.12. I have switched to using my hacked-up version of arecord which has a coroutine/thread doing the disk writing from a huge circular buffer. This has solved the problem. [I tried submitting this hack back to the project but it was rejected] Maybe I could do something about disk write scheduling in a kernel setting somewhere? > > I also have some problems with a few drivers on the FC3 kernels. > This is just a guess on my part, but I think there are a few drivers > that need to be updated to fit the preemption models. I think this > will get sorted out in a little while, though it doesn't hurt to > bring any driver problems into public view. I'm working with the folks at AudioScience to refine this. They're amazingly responsive for a hardware vendor on this rather bleeding-edge software type issue. > > If a driver will not load you might want to try doing > "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound stop" and then > "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start" and check the end of > /var/log/messages for errors and if it looks like a driver/kernel > problem bring it to our attention. > > As an aside, the kernel is still changing quite rapidly and I tink we > may see a few broken drivers here and there for a while(at least for > us folks who are using "edge" kernels to get decent audio from our > systems). Yeah, I kind-of had to mix and match kernels and driver versions to find something that works. Right now the system is in production with 2.6.9-2.3.rdt and 1.0.11rc2. It ain't broke so I don't think I'll try to fix it at this point. There is an issue with arecord making the clock run slow, probably due to deferred interrupts, but I have ntp.conf tweaked up enough to keep it in sync within 1/4 second which meets our needs. Thanks! Eric From andersvi@extern.uio.no Tue Jan 17 00:47:03 2006 From: andersvi@extern.uio.no (andersvi@extern.uio.no) Date: Tue Jan 17 00:47:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] cmucl /usr/bin/lisp script Message-ID: Since last year sometime ive had to manually edit planetccrmas version of cmucl's /usr/bin/lisp script, and wrap the expansion thing at the end - $@ - inside double-quotes, ie: exec /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /usr/bin/lisp.bin "$@" to get it to accept any command-line arguments. I can barely read a bash script myself, and i suspect this might be caused by something ive messed up myself other places (especially because nobody seems to have complained for several months), but please check if the expansion argument is supposed to be inside double-quotes. -anders From reakinator@gmail.com Tue Jan 17 22:47:01 2006 From: reakinator@gmail.com (Rich E) Date: Tue Jan 17 22:47:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Trouble with rme hdsp.. plz help I like sound Message-ID: ------=_Part_43999_1453015.1137566792680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello to all, I recently installed the PlanetCCRMA FC4 kernel (first attempt with linux) and I bought a RME HDSP Multiface to go along with it. I knew it would be = a tough beginner's card, but I'm giving it a shot anyway. So far, I can only get alsaconf to detect the card, modify the probemod.conf file, and boot it up on startup. This doesn't do much good though, since it seems to be tied up somewhere. Upon booting the FC4 with the hdsp installed, I receive 3 errors once Gnome starts: - No Volume control - the application "mixer_applet2" has quit unexpectantly - the Panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet" I only receive the No Volume control error in KDE it appears that everything I need for the soundcard such as drivers and firmware loaders is already built into the kernel, but I really don't know. alsaconf detects the card and it seems to boot up fine, but then hdsploader doesn't work (it says the card is busy). The IRQ was 185, so I tried putting it in a different pci slot, but this didn't change anything (including the IRQ) except hdsploader's output (in then says input/output error). I wanna use PD in linux so much...please help. with /sbin/lspci, I noticed the snd_pcm_oss, snd_seq_oss, and snd_mixer_oss were still running, but the card is not recognized by hdsploader without them. Upon using alsaconf again, they are back. My oh my I want to get this puppy working. For the love of music, please help. Thanks to all who read this! Here is the aadebug output: ALSA Audio Debug v0.1.0 - Sat Jan 14 16:57:32 PST 2006 http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=3Daadebug http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt Kernel ---------------------------------------------------- Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 16:05:44 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- snd_seq_midi 14624 0 snd_hdsp 54308 1 snd_rawmidi 31264 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp snd_seq_dummy 8196 0 snd_seq_oss 41984 0 snd_seq_midi_event 11776 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss snd_seq 63504 6 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 13324 5 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss 67104 0 snd_mixer_oss 23040 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 109188 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 31236 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 15624 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 14496 1 snd_hdsp snd 70252 15 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_ev= ent,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_= hwdep Modprobe Conf --------------------------------------------- options snd-intel8x0 index=3D0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias snd-card-0 snd-hdsp alias sound-slot-0 snd-hdsp Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10. Compiled on Dec 5 2005 for kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp (SMP). 0 [DSP ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface at 0xf3000000, irq 185 1: : sequencer 8: [0- 0]: raw midi 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture 4: [0- 0]: hardware dependent 0: [0- 0]: ctl 33: : timer 00-00: HDSP hwdep interface 00-00: RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface : RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface : playback 1 : capture 1 Client info cur clients : 4 peak clients : 4 max clients : 192 Client 0 : "System" [Kernel] Port 0 : "Timer" (Rwe-) Port 1 : "Announce" (R-e-) Connecting To: 63:0 Client 62 : "Midi Through" [Kernel] Port 0 : "Midi Through Port-0" (RWe-) Client 63 : "OSS sequencer" [Kernel] Port 0 : "Receiver" (-we-) Connected From: 0:1 Client 64 : " MIDI 1" [Kernel] Port 0 : " MIDI 1" (RWeX) Dev Snd --------------------------------------------------- controlC0 hwC0D0 midiC0D0 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p seq timer CPU ------------------------------------------------------- model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz cpu MHz : 2405.549 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz cpu MHz : 2405.549 RAM ------------------------------------------------------- MemTotal: 1033144 kB SwapTotal: 2031608 kB Hardware -------------------------------------------------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 03:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall DSP (rev 32) ------=_Part_43999_1453015.1137566792680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello to all,

I recently installed the PlanetCCRMA FC4 kernel (first attempt with lin= ux) and I bought a RME HDSP Multiface to go along with it. I knew it = would be a tough beginner's card, but I'm giving it a shot anyway. So= far, I can only get alsaconf to detect the card, modify the=20 probemod.conf file, and boot it up on startup. This doesn't do much g= ood though, since it seems to be tied up somewhere.

Upon booting the FC4 with the hdsp installed, I receive 3 errors once Gnome= starts:
- No Volume control
- the application "mixer_applet2" has quit unexpectantly
- the Panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApp= let"

I only receive the No Volume control error in KDE

it appears that everything I need for the soundcard such as drivers and firmware loaders is already built into the kernel, but I really don't know. alsaconf detects the card and it seems to boot up fine, but then hdsploader doesn't work (it says the card is busy).

The IRQ was 185, so I tried putting it in a different pci slot, but this didn't change anything (including the IRQ) except hdsploader's output (in then says input/output error). I wanna use PD in linux so much...please help.

with /sbin/lspci, I noticed the snd_pc= m_oss, snd_seq_oss, and snd_mixer_oss were still running, but the card is n= ot recognized by hdsploader without them. Upon using alsaconf again, = they are back.

My oh my I want to get this puppy working. For the love of music, p= lease help. Thanks to all who read this!

Here is the aadeb= ug output:

ALSA Audio Debug v0.1.0 - Sat Jan 14 16:57:32 PST 2006
http://alsa.op= ensrc.org/index.php?page=3Daadebug
http://www.gnu.org/licens= es/gpl.txt

Kernel ------------------------------

---------------------= -
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp #1 SMP PREEMPT M= on Dec 5 16:05:44 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Loaded Modules --------------------------------------------
snd_seq_midi           14= 624 0
snd_hdsp           &= nbsp;   54308 1
snd_rawmidi          &nbs= p; 31264 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp
snd_seq_dummy           8= 196 0
snd_seq_oss          &nbs= p; 41984 0
snd_seq_midi_event     11776 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_s= eq_oss
snd_seq           &n= bsp;    63504 6 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device         13324 5 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss          &nbs= p; 67104 0
snd_mixer_oss          23040&n= bsp; 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm           &n= bsp;   109188 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer           =    31236 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc         15624 = 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep           =    14496 1 snd_hdsp
snd            =         70252 15 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_ev= ent,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_= hwdep

Modprobe Conf ---------------------------------------------
options snd-intel8x0 index=3D0
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias snd-card-0 snd-hdsp
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hdsp

Proc Asound -----------------------------------------------
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
Compiled on Dec 5 2005 for kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp (SMP= ).
0 [DSP            ]:= H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
            &nb= sp;        RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface at 0xf3000000, irq 185
1:       : sequencer
8: [0- 0]: raw midi
16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
4: [0- 0]: hardware dependent
0: [0- 0]: ctl
33:       : timer
00-00: HDSP hwdep interface
00-00: RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface : RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface : pl= ayback 1 : capture 1
Client info
cur clients : 4
peak clients : 4
max clients : 192

Client   0 : "System" [Kernel]
Port   0 : "Timer" (Rwe-)
Port   1 : "Announce" (R-e-)
    Connecting To: 63:0
Client 62 : "Midi Through" [Kernel]
Port   0 : "Midi Through Port-0" (RWe-)
Client 63 : "OSS sequencer" [Kernel]
Port   0 : "Receiver" (-we-)
    Connected From: 0:1
Client 64 : " MIDI 1" [Kernel]
Port   0 : " MIDI 1" (RWeX)

Dev Snd ---------------------------------------------------
controlC0 hwC0D0 midiC0D0 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p s= eq timer

CPU -------------------------------------------------------
model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GH= z
cpu MHz         : 2405.549
model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GH= z
cpu MHz         : 2405.549

RAM -------------------------------------------------------
MemTotal:      1033144 kB
SwapTotal:     2031608 kB

Hardware --------------------------------------------------
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller Hub (= rev 02)
03:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall DSP = (rev 32)

------=_Part_43999_1453015.1137566792680-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 18 10:02:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 18 10:02:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Trouble with rme hdsp.. plz help I like sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137607291.30930.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:46 -0800, Rich E wrote: > Hello to all, > > I recently installed the PlanetCCRMA FC4 kernel (first attempt with > linux) and I bought a RME HDSP Multiface to go along with it. I knew > it would be a tough beginner's card, but I'm giving it a shot anyway. > So far, I can only get alsaconf to detect the card, modify the > probemod.conf file, and boot it up on startup. This doesn't do much > good though, since it seems to be tied up somewhere. > > Upon booting the FC4 with the hdsp installed, I receive 3 errors once > Gnome starts: > - No Volume control > - the application "mixer_applet2" has quit unexpectantly > - the Panel encountered a problem while loading > "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet" > > I only receive the No Volume control error in KDE This is most probably fine. I doubt the card has a "normal" mixer than simple minded apps can understand :-) Have you tried starting "hdspmixer" after you login? Everything looks normal. If hdspmixer starts fine it should initialize the card with default "reasonable" gains. After that start Jack (through Qjackctl) and something like Hydrogen that you could use to test sound output. -- Fernando > it appears that everything I need for the soundcard such as drivers > and firmware loaders is already built into the kernel, but I really > don't know. alsaconf detects the card and it seems to boot up fine, > but then hdsploader doesn't work (it says the card is busy). > > The IRQ was 185, so I tried putting it in a different pci slot, but > this didn't change anything (including the IRQ) except hdsploader's > output (in then says input/output error). I wanna use PD in linux so > much...please help. > > with /sbin/lspci, I noticed the snd_pcm_oss, snd_seq_oss, and > snd_mixer_oss were still running, but the card is not recognized by > hdsploader without them. Upon using alsaconf again, they are back. > > My oh my I want to get this puppy working. For the love of music, > please help. Thanks to all who read this! > > > Here is the aadebug output: > > ALSA Audio Debug v0.1.0 - Sat Jan 14 16:57:32 PST 2006 > http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=aadebug > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt > > Kernel ------------------------------ > ---------------------- > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp #1 SMP > PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 16:05:44 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- > snd_seq_midi 14624 0 > snd_hdsp 54308 1 > snd_rawmidi 31264 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp > snd_seq_dummy 8196 0 > snd_seq_oss 41984 0 > snd_seq_midi_event 11776 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss > snd_seq 63504 6 > snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event > snd_seq_device 13324 5 > snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq > snd_pcm_oss 67104 0 > snd_mixer_oss 23040 1 snd_pcm_oss > snd_pcm 109188 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm_oss > snd_timer 31236 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > snd_page_alloc 15624 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm > snd_hwdep 14496 1 snd_hdsp > snd 70252 15 > snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep > > Modprobe Conf --------------------------------------------- > options snd-intel8x0 index=0 > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 > || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > alias snd-card-0 snd-hdsp > alias sound-slot-0 snd-hdsp > > Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10. > Compiled on Dec 5 2005 for kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrmasmp > (SMP). > 0 [DSP ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP > RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface at 0xf3000000, irq > 185 > 1: : sequencer > 8: [0- 0]: raw midi > 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback > 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture > 4: [0- 0]: hardware dependent > 0: [0- 0]: ctl > 33: : timer > 00-00: HDSP hwdep interface > 00-00: RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface : RME Hammerfall DSP + > Multiface : playback 1 : capture 1 > Client info > cur clients : 4 > peak clients : 4 > max clients : 192 > > Client 0 : "System" [Kernel] > Port 0 : "Timer" (Rwe-) > Port 1 : "Announce" (R-e-) > Connecting To: 63:0 > Client 62 : "Midi Through" [Kernel] > Port 0 : "Midi Through Port-0" (RWe-) > Client 63 : "OSS sequencer" [Kernel] > Port 0 : "Receiver" (-we-) > Connected From: 0:1 > Client 64 : " MIDI 1" [Kernel] > Port 0 : " MIDI 1" (RWeX) > > Dev Snd --------------------------------------------------- > controlC0 hwC0D0 midiC0D0 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p seq timer > > CPU ------------------------------------------------------- > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz > cpu MHz : 2405.549 > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz > cpu MHz : 2405.549 > > RAM ------------------------------------------------------- > MemTotal: 1033144 kB > SwapTotal: 2031608 kB > > Hardware -------------------------------------------------- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller > Hub (rev 02) > 03:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME Hammerfall > DSP (rev 32) > From alexander_carot@gmx.net Fri Jan 20 04:22:01 2006 From: alexander_carot@gmx.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Jan 20 04:22:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] problem with USB latency (emi 6|2m) Message-ID: <21322.1137759705@www91.gmx.net> Hi to all, I have a Fedora Core 3 2,66 GHz-machine with low-latency kernel (Planet CCRMA). All soundcard stuff is working fine except USB cards : I've tested an emagic emi6|2m : It runs with 48kHz, 128 Samples/frame : 2 periods doesn't work (over/underruns -- just confusion ...) 3 is working fine but I get a too high input/output latency of 16ms. Has anyone experience with this configuration and could help ? Thanks in advance -- A l e x P.S.: Similar behavior I experience with a cheap soundblaster MP3+. -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Car�t Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de DSL-Aktion wegen gro�er Nachfrage bis 28.2.2006 verl�ngert: GMX DSL-Flatrate 1 Jahr kostenlos* http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net Fri Jan 20 05:08:01 2006 From: luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net (Luis Garrido) Date: Fri Jan 20 05:08:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] problem with USB latency (emi 6|2m) In-Reply-To: <21322.1137759705@www91.gmx.net> References: <21322.1137759705@www91.gmx.net> Message-ID: > 2 periods doesn't work (over/underruns -- just confusion ...) > 3 is working fine but I get a too high input/output latency of 16ms. > > Has anyone experience with this configuration and could help ? > Well, if you consider a 16 ms latency too high perhaps a USB unit is not what you need, considering that USB adds a communication layer over the PCI bus. I work comfortably in the range of 15-25 ms, so didn't bother to push it further. You may want to have a look at this for some tips: http://ip.bourget.cc:8080/wiki/Edirol_UA-25_Linux Good luck and let us know if you succeed. Luis From brandon.m.simmons@gmail.com Fri Jan 20 15:51:01 2006 From: brandon.m.simmons@gmail.com (Brandon Simmons) Date: Fri Jan 20 15:51:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] crashes and repository questions Message-ID: Hi, I have been having problems with ardour and various other audio apps freezing my machine under a fresh minimal install of fedora core 3 and ccrma on my laptop. After finding this mailing list and the ccrma changelog, it seems some of the packages and kernel I'm using are not the most recent versions, yet apt-get seems to think everything is up to date. Here are the repositories that I am using: /---------------\ # rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetedge rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 core updates rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetccrma rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetcore \----------------/ when I added the edge repository it gave me a few updates but wanted to downgrade the kernel to solve dependencies? This is my kernel version: 2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc3.ccrmasmp I know I'm missing something that I'm sure is obvious but I've had no luck trying to figure this out on my own. Hopefully everything will work once the machine is up to date. Sorry if this is a stupid question. Thanks for your help, Brandon From rlrevell@joe-job.com Fri Jan 20 17:50:01 2006 From: rlrevell@joe-job.com (Lee Revell) Date: Fri Jan 20 17:50:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [Alsa-user] problem with USB latency (emi 6|2m) In-Reply-To: <21322.1137759705@www91.gmx.net> References: <21322.1137759705@www91.gmx.net> Message-ID: <1137807202.3241.60.camel@mindpipe> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:21 +0100, "Alexander Car�t" wrote: > Hi to all, > > I have a Fedora Core 3 2,66 GHz-machine with low-latency kernel (Planet > CCRMA). > > P.S.: Similar behavior I experience with a cheap soundblaster MP3+. > Is this a laptop? You may be experiencing the ACPI/SMM bug. You are referring to a PCI soundblaster not USB right? Lee From rock808@gmail.com Fri Jan 20 20:05:02 2006 From: rock808@gmail.com (David Slimp) Date: Fri Jan 20 20:05:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: No Midi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello ! I've been enjoying CCRMA for a couple years now, but recently wiped my system of Fedora 1 and installed Fedora 3. Now, I'm having problems getting MIDI to work, although PCM seems to be working fine. I've looked over some of the past posts and think I've ruled out the common problems, although I'm obviously missing something. When I start 'rosegarden' I get: Error while initializing the sound driver: device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) in a GUI window, and on the command line: JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 *** Launched ok, pid = 5872 When I run 'muse' I get: ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory kmid seems to start up fine (no errors)... and SEEMS to run, but I don't hear any sound. I'll admit I don't use kmid, and so not sure it's behaving properly besides that. I do not have any external MIDI devices hooked up right now.... I'm trying to just get it to my sound card ( snd-intel8x0 ) which is built in to the motherboard. I do have a Brooktree audio/video capture card and usb audio device attached too, so have these entries in my /etc/modules.conf: ========================= # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 --- #alias char-major-116 snd #alias char-major-14 soundcore #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && \ /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; \ /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- alias snd-card-1 pwc options snd-card-1 index=1 install pwc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install pwc && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove pwc { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove pwc alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=2 ============================= The commented out lines had not been commented, but after looking at my old conf file (Fedora 1) I didn't see those particular lines, so I've been doing some testing. I also noticed I don't have a /dev/sequencer, although not sure that's necessary. I'm not sure how to tell if the alsa drivers are loaded. Nothing with "alsa" seems to be listed in the output of ps afx or lsmod. Also, after reading a couple more posts, I thought this might be helpful: /etc/init.d/alsasound stop /etc/init.d/alsasound start tail -30 /var/log/messages: ===== Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sound driver snd-usb-audio succeeded Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sequencer succeeded Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsactl: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1272: No soundcards found... Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Restoring sound driver settings failed ===== $ hdspmixer HDSPMixer 1.6 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY HDSPMixer is free software, see the file COPYING for details Looking for HDSP cards : Card 0 : Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A at 0xec800000, irq 17 Card 2 : USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full speed No Hammerfall DSP card found. Any help would be great ! Thanks, David ----- "On proprietary platforms, eventually you'll run into 'you can't do that.' On open platforms, you'll run into 'you have to learn more to do that.' " -- Ian Smith-Heisters From rock808@gmail.com Sat Jan 21 11:47:02 2006 From: rock808@gmail.com (David Slimp) Date: Sat Jan 21 11:47:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No Midi Message-ID: Hello ! I've been enjoying CCRMA for a couple years now, but recently wiped my system of Fedora 1 and installed Fedora 3. Now, I'm having problems getting MIDI to work, although PCM seems to be working fine. I've looked over some of the past posts and think I've ruled out the common problems, although I'm obviously missing something. When I start 'rosegarden' I get: Error while initializing the sound driver: device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) in a GUI window, and on the command line: JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 *** Launched ok, pid = 5872 When I run 'muse' I get: ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory kmid seems to start up fine (no errors)... and SEEMS to run, but I don't hear any sound. I'll admit I don't use kmid, and so not sure it's behaving properly besides that. I do not have any external MIDI devices hooked up right now.... I'm trying to just get it to my sound card ( snd-intel8x0 ) which is built in to the motherboard. I do have a Brooktree audio/video capture card and usb audio device attached too, so have these entries in my /etc/modules.conf: ========================= # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 --- #alias char-major-116 snd #alias char-major-14 soundcore #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && \ /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; \ /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- alias snd-card-1 pwc options snd-card-1 index=1 install pwc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install pwc && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove pwc { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove pwc alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=2 ============================= The commented out lines had not been commented, but after looking at my old conf file (Fedora 1) I didn't see those particular lines, so I've been doing some testing. I also noticed I don't have a /dev/sequencer, although not sure that's necessary. I'm not sure how to tell if the alsa drivers are loaded. Nothing with "alsa" seems to be listed in the output of ps afx or lsmod. Any help would be great ! Thanks, David ----- "On proprietary platforms, eventually you'll run into 'you can't do that.' On open platforms, you'll run into 'you have to learn more to do that.' " -- Ian Smith-Heisters From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jan 21 11:57:04 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jan 21 11:57:04 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: No Midi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137873399.18131.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:04 -0600, David Slimp wrote: > I've been enjoying CCRMA for a couple years now, but recently > wiped my system of Fedora 1 and installed Fedora 3. > > Now, I'm having problems getting MIDI to work, although PCM seems > to be working fine. > > I've looked over some of the past posts and think I've ruled out the > common problems, although I'm obviously missing something. > > When I start 'rosegarden' I get: > Error while initializing the sound driver: > device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) > > in a GUI window, and on the command line: > JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default > *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 *** > Launched ok, pid = 5872 > > > > > When I run 'muse' I get: > > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw > Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory Probably the sequencer module is not being autolodaded, that happens in fc3. One solution is to activate the alsasound startup script: /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on And reboot or start it manually: /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start That should load the sequencer module. You can check by doing: /sbin/lsmod|grep ^snd that should list all alsa modules (they all start with snd-), you should see some with "seq" in them. You can also look at the devices with: cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/devices > kmid seems to start up fine (no errors)... and SEEMS to run, but > I don't hear any sound. I'll admit I don't use kmid, and so not sure > it's behaving properly besides that. > > I do not have any external MIDI devices hooked up right now.... > I'm trying to just get it to my sound card ( snd-intel8x0 ) which is > built in to the motherboard. > > I do have a Brooktree audio/video capture card and usb audio > device attached too, so have these entries in my /etc/modules.conf: > ========================= > # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- > # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 --- > #alias char-major-116 snd > #alias char-major-14 soundcore > #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > options snd-intel8x0 index=0 > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && \ > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; \ > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- > > > alias snd-card-1 pwc > options snd-card-1 index=1 > install pwc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install pwc && /usr/sbin/alsactl > restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove pwc { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove pwc What is pwc? It is not an alsa kernel module (they all start with snd-)... > alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio > options snd-usb-audio index=2 > ============================= > > The commented out lines had not been commented, but after looking > at my old conf file (Fedora 1) I didn't see those particular lines, so I've > been doing some testing. You don't need the aliases, they are included in fc3/2.6.x automatically. > I also noticed I don't have a /dev/sequencer, although not > sure that's necessary. That would only be necessary for oss emulated midi programs. > I'm not sure how to tell if the alsa drivers are loaded. Nothing with > "alsa" seems to be listed in the output of ps afx or lsmod. > > Also, after reading a couple more posts, I thought this might be helpful: > > /etc/init.d/alsasound stop > /etc/init.d/alsasound start > tail -30 /var/log/messages: > ===== > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sound driver snd-usb-audio succeeded > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sequencer succeeded > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsactl: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1272: > No soundcards found... > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Restoring sound driver settings failed > ===== That should have started the sequencer modules... The "no soundcards found" thing only refers to the stored mixer state of /etc/asound.state, if you have configured your mixer you can store it explicitly with "/usr/sbin/alsactl store". > $ hdspmixer > HDSPMixer 1.6 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel > This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > HDSPMixer is free software, see the file COPYING for details > > Looking for HDSP cards : > Card 0 : Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A at 0xec800000, irq 17 > Card 2 : USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full speed > No Hammerfall DSP card found. That would only work if you had an RME card. Try "gamix" for a generic mixer with a gui. -- Fernando From rock808@gmail.com Sat Jan 21 22:07:01 2006 From: rock808@gmail.com (David Slimp) Date: Sat Jan 21 22:07:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: No Midi In-Reply-To: <1137873399.18131.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1137873399.18131.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Thanks Fernando ! I was able to do quite a bit more testing on my own and thought I'd post my findings here. Actually, I've not solved all my problems yet, but I think I've done enough that we can rule out some things. First, I removed my usb webcam, and Brooktree capture cards to take them out of the loop (less audio devices the better - while testing) Next, I plugged in my usb M-Audio Uno 1x1 device to my Yamaha keyboard so I would have another midi device available (besides the built in soundcard?) I then uncommented out the lines in /etc/modules.conf which were put there by the alsaconf tool, and I had commented out earlier, so my /etc/modules.conf now looks like this: ============= alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias char-major-81 bttv alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 --- alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss options snd-intel8x0 index=0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=1 ======================== I could not get the usb 1x1 device to work until I found and installed the ezusbmidi RPM for RH9 (even though I am using FC3): rpm -Uvh http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/redhat/linux/planetccrma/9/en/os/noarch/ezusbmidi-2002_11_17-1.noarch.rpm ... Perhaps this should be in the PlanetCCRMA documents somewhere? http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/usbmidi.html Talks about it some, but it was not obvious to be that the RH9 package would work for me on FC3, and I did not need the hotplug RPM at all. -- For any PlanetCCRMA doc people out there.. at least a mention that the RH9 packages is for FC3 as well. Would have saved me 2 hours :) And maybe a link to that page from the quick install pages for those with these devices. I also rebooted to the .ll kernel rather than the .rdt kernel, just to be as safe as possible. After killing the artsd process I was in business. -- kinda timidity works with the -Os option. seq24 works, but I have to set output bus to "Midisport 1x1", even though I have an option for "[0] 62:0 (Midi Through Port-0)" I don't hear any output on this. If THAT is indeed the internal sound card then this is one thing I DO want to see working!! hydrogen was not working at first, but I found the problem to be was that the alsa device was automatically set to "hw:0" and I needed to change it to just "hw" as was reported "somewhere", but I can't seem to find out where I saw it as I write this email. muse just bombs and says it can't find the Jack audio server. How should this be configured for auto setup/install? >From the command line, I run: jackstart -d alsa & and try muse again, which gives the error "failed to initialize the Alsa midi subsystem" and command line messages: $ muse mjsucaps: capsetp: Operation not permitted /usr/bin/konqueror ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory rosegarden also hangs for a REALLY long time after this: ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 *** Profiler : id = querying plugins - elapsed = 990ms CPU, 1.571667000R real And then the popup window "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording will be unavailable for this session". It seems to struggle getting started and soon crashes. I guess my biggest interest are to see rosegarden working, and to be able to use the internal soundcard as a midi device. Now that we see alsa IS working (somewhat) then I think we can move more in that direction. Thanks! David On 1/21/06, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:04 -0600, David Slimp wrote: > > I've been enjoying CCRMA for a couple years now, but recently > > wiped my system of Fedora 1 and installed Fedora 3. > > > > Now, I'm having problems getting MIDI to work, although PCM seems > > to be working fine. > > > > I've looked over some of the past posts and think I've ruled out the > > common problems, although I'm obviously missing something. > > > > When I start 'rosegarden' I get: > > Error while initializing the sound driver: > > device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) > > > > in a GUI window, and on the command line: > > JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem > > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default > > *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 *** > > Launched ok, pid = 5872 > > > > > > > > > > When I run 'muse' I get: > > > > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw > > Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory > > Probably the sequencer module is not being autolodaded, that happens in > fc3. One solution is to activate the alsasound startup script: > > /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on > > And reboot or start it manually: > /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start > > That should load the sequencer module. You can check by doing: > /sbin/lsmod|grep ^snd > that should list all alsa modules (they all start with snd-), you should > see some with "seq" in them. > > You can also look at the devices with: > cat /proc/asound/cards > cat /proc/asound/devices > > > kmid seems to start up fine (no errors)... and SEEMS to run, but > > I don't hear any sound. I'll admit I don't use kmid, and so not sure > > it's behaving properly besides that. > > > > I do not have any external MIDI devices hooked up right now.... > > I'm trying to just get it to my sound card ( snd-intel8x0 ) which is > > built in to the motherboard. > > > > I do have a Brooktree audio/video capture card and usb audio > > device attached too, so have these entries in my /etc/modules.conf: > > ========================= > > # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- > > # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 --- > > #alias char-major-116 snd > > #alias char-major-14 soundcore > > #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > > #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > > #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > > #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > > #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > > options snd-intel8x0 index=0 > > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && \ > > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; \ > > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 > > # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- > > > > > > alias snd-card-1 pwc > > options snd-card-1 index=1 > > install pwc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install pwc && /usr/sbin/alsactl > > restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > > remove pwc { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove pwc > > What is pwc? It is not an alsa kernel module (they all start with > snd-)... > > > alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio > > options snd-usb-audio index=2 > > ============================= > > > > The commented out lines had not been commented, but after looking > > at my old conf file (Fedora 1) I didn't see those particular lines, so I've > > been doing some testing. > > You don't need the aliases, they are included in fc3/2.6.x > automatically. > > > I also noticed I don't have a /dev/sequencer, although not > > sure that's necessary. > > That would only be necessary for oss emulated midi programs. > > > I'm not sure how to tell if the alsa drivers are loaded. Nothing with > > "alsa" seems to be listed in the output of ps afx or lsmod. > > > > Also, after reading a couple more posts, I thought this might be helpful: > > > > /etc/init.d/alsasound stop > > /etc/init.d/alsasound start > > tail -30 /var/log/messages: > > ===== > > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sound driver snd-usb-audio succeeded > > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sequencer succeeded > > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsactl: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1272: > > No soundcards found... > > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Restoring sound driver settings failed > > ===== > > That should have started the sequencer modules... > The "no soundcards found" thing only refers to the stored mixer state > of /etc/asound.state, if you have configured your mixer you can store it > explicitly with "/usr/sbin/alsactl store". > > > $ hdspmixer > > HDSPMixer 1.6 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel > > This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > HDSPMixer is free software, see the file COPYING for details > > > > Looking for HDSP cards : > > Card 0 : Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A at 0xec800000, irq 17 > > Card 2 : USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full speed > > No Hammerfall DSP card found. > > That would only work if you had an RME card. Try "gamix" for a generic > mixer with a gui. > > -- Fernando > > > -- David Slimp rock808@gmail.com http://www.MySpace.com/rock808 = "On proprietary platforms, eventually you'll run into 'you can't do that.' On open platforms, you'll run into 'you have to learn more to do that.' " -- Ian Smith-Heisters From rvestal@trilug.org Mon Jan 23 07:46:01 2006 From: rvestal@trilug.org (Roy Vestal) Date: Mon Jan 23 07:46:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Questions on Dual CPU's Message-ID: <43D4F9F9.2000908@trilug.org> I'm looking into a new system. I'm toying with the idea of dual CPU's. Here are my questions: 1. Is anyone using duals as a recording/mixing/mastering platform? 2. If so, is there a big performance increase? Is it a good bang for $$$ ? 3. What kernel version is recommended? 4. Intel or AMD? I want to get a good system, but I don't want to spend $$$ that I don't need or can't use. I'm planning on using Ardour and Audacity for a lot of my work. TIA, Roy From thomas_ahlstroem@hotmail.com Mon Jan 23 09:11:01 2006 From: thomas_ahlstroem@hotmail.com (Thomas Ahlstrom) Date: Mon Jan 23 09:11:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound Message-ID: Hi, Running Fedora 2 on a Dell machine with a SB card with emu10k1x-soundchip. I have sound OK when running Fluidsynth and Rosegarden. But when starting Jack, qsynth, qjackctl and Rosegarden -- no sound ! Everything is running OK, qsynth receives midi signal -- but no sound! What am I missing? Thomas From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Mon Jan 23 09:59:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Mon Jan 23 09:59:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200601231858.10432.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Monday 23 January 2006 18:10, Thomas Ahlstrom wrote: > Hi, > Running Fedora 2 on a Dell machine with a SB card with emu10k1x-soundchip. > I have sound OK when running Fluidsynth and Rosegarden. > But when starting Jack, qsynth, qjackctl and Rosegarden -- no sound ! > Everything is running OK, qsynth receives midi signal -- but no sound! > > > What am I missing? > > Thomas Can you check with: cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 that you have a soundfont loaded onto the soundcard. Exchange card0 to whatever your soundcard is in, cat /proc/asound/cards. Nigel. > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jan 23 15:11:03 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jan 23 15:11:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] some updates available for Fedora Core 4 Message-ID: <1138057016.4908.31.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi all... long time between updates, right? :-) Well, some are coming, slowly. The end of stability, of course! Currently available on FC4 only (others eventually coming): * lash 0.5.0 - formerly known as LADCAA - is now available, the update will override the previous ladcca packages. * vkeybd rebuilt for the new lash * jack rack updated to version 1.4.4 (uses the new lash) * time machine updated to version 0.3.1 (uses the new lash) * fluidsynth updated to version 1.0.6 (uses the new lash) * swami rebuilt to use the new fluidsynth version * qsynth updated to version 0.2.4 * qjackctl updated to version 0.2.19a * muse updated to version 0.7.2pre5 Also, alsa-lib has been rebuilt to include extra stuff that has been available for a while in fedora's version (the ainit software package). This may solve the breakage that some users have seen recently with alsa-lib updates (version 1.0.10-3.1, overrides fedora's latest update). Old news that never got posted: the lisp world has been rebuilt (CMUCL, SBCL, Common Music with portmidi support, CLM3 and 2 and CMN). As usual, see the online changelog for more details... Enjoy! -- Fernando From csynan@dataworlds.com Mon Jan 23 17:35:01 2006 From: csynan@dataworlds.com (Chris Synan) Date: Mon Jan 23 17:35:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Questions on Dual CPU's In-Reply-To: <20060123200003.1186.91553.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20060123200003.1186.91553.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <43D583A9.5020602@dataworlds.com> Roy, I recently built an AMD dual core system for my recording rig, I mainly use ardour and jamin. To me, the dual core platform was a big win in bang for buck, especially for multithreaded apps. I am very pleased with the performance of this system! Check out this earlier discussion on this topic: http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2005-December/010851.html Good luck, Chris >I'm looking into a new system. I'm toying with the idea of dual CPU's. >Here are my questions: > >1. Is anyone using duals as a recording/mixing/mastering platform? >2. If so, is there a big performance increase? Is it a good bang for $$$ ? >3. What kernel version is recommended? >4. Intel or AMD? > >I want to get a good system, but I don't want to spend $$$ that I don't >need or can't use. > >I'm planning on using Ardour and Audacity for a lot of my work. > >TIA, >Roy > > > > > > From alexander_carot@gmx.net Tue Jan 24 03:12:01 2006 From: alexander_carot@gmx.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Tue Jan 24 03:12:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] delay in general References: Message-ID: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> > Good luck and let us know if you succeed. Hi Luis, thanks for the response ! I followed your link and noticed that you experience the same in/out-delay (~ 15ms) with USB-soundcards. I'm a little surprised because Emagic claims to reach delay in the area of 6ms under Windows (ASIO) but I'm wondering if it's true. Actually it seems to me that the delay details are a pretty "wishy-washy" issue - some questions regarding this : 1.) Can anyone recommend literature/links for soundcard DSP and construction ? 2.) summing up the delay types there's ADC-delay, blocking-delay, DAC-delay For the caputure process it's ADC+blocking (for 48kHz, 256 samples/frame = 1ms (ADC)+ 5.6ms (blocking) = 6,6ms Assuming that the captured block would be inserted into the playback buffer at the right time it wouldn't take any delay for playback process, right but since it's a problem to get the buffers in sync it typically takes another 6,6ms to play it back, right = so altogether = 2 * 6,6ms = 13,2 ms in/out-delay. Is that correct ? 3.) Has anyone information about the communication layer USB-audio puts on top of the PCI-bus and how much delay it takes ? In other words : Can a USB device ever reach latencies like PCI-devices ? Also : I need an excellent external device for my laptop. If USB isn't suitable what's the alternative (Firewire, external PCI-Cards : which ones ?). Thanks in advance -- A l e x -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Car�t Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de DSL-Aktion wegen gro�er Nachfrage bis 28.2.2006 verl�ngert: GMX DSL-Flatrate 1 Jahr kostenlos* http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From alexander_carot@gmx.net Tue Jan 24 03:27:02 2006 From: alexander_carot@gmx.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Tue Jan 24 03:27:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] mini blocksize card References: Message-ID: <23559.1138102006@www092.gmx.net> Hi to all, within my research goals I'm aiming to have lowest latencies ever. Looking at typical PC-hardware it's obvious that blocksizes < 128 (sometimes < 64) are impossible to reach due to the PCI bus with its DMA-transfers. So - what I thought of was building a "stand alone soundcard" able to handle such small delays - actually kind of an "expressPCI"-thing. As a first initial idea I'd like to discuss this topic. If this is too much "off topic" please let me know where I can find a better place to do this. Someone pointed to this : http://www.innovative-dsp.com/products/sd.htm Does it somehow go into this direction ? Best regards -- A l e x -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Car�t Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse f�r Mail, Message, More +++ From luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net Tue Jan 24 05:55:02 2006 From: luisgarrido@users.sourceforge.net (Luis Garrido) Date: Tue Jan 24 05:55:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: delay in general In-Reply-To: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> References: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> Message-ID: You can get lower latencies, but with very little reliability. Edirol boasts a 5 ms minimum latency and you can force it, but the quality of the sound resents when you get lower than 20ms. I believe that fireware audio support is still under development in Linux. If the budget is not an issue I guess your best bet is a PCMCIA soundcard. I believe RME has some models and this company seems to support Linux very actively, so there is probably a driver for them. Check the alsa and the RME sites. Good luck, Luis From gmaxwell@gmail.com Tue Jan 24 06:32:01 2006 From: gmaxwell@gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell) Date: Tue Jan 24 06:32:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: delay in general In-Reply-To: References: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> Message-ID: On 1/24/06, Luis Garrido wrote: > You can get lower latencies, but with very little reliability. Edirol > boasts a 5 ms minimum latency and you can force it, but the quality of > the sound resents when you get lower than 20ms. > > I believe that fireware audio support is still under development in Linux. > > If the budget is not an issue I guess your best bet is a PCMCIA > soundcard. I believe RME has some models and this company seems to > support Linux very actively, so there is probably a driver for them. > Check the alsa and the RME sites. The multiface PCMCIA stuff works great, although some cardbus bridges have issues with it (although similar problems exist under windows). I'm not so sure that I'd continue to say that RME supports linux all that well anymore because their premiere product is not currently supported... The older stuff (RME 9652, 9652 HDSP, multiface ,etc) still work great, however. From andrew@longland-meech.me.uk Tue Jan 24 07:46:02 2006 From: andrew@longland-meech.me.uk (Andrew Longland-Meech) Date: Tue Jan 24 07:46:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Upgrading to FC4 Message-ID: <1138117690.5429.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Fernando and list! Yes I've decided to take the plunge and upgrade to FC4, so how do I do it? I want to do a clean install rather than upgrade FC3, because that never seems to work properly, and then put the Planet stuff on top. Now I'm sure it's been discussed before and I'm sure there are some instructions somewhere (I know they're not on the website yet), but I can't find them! Is it just a case of following the FC3 instructions from the website or are there any extra gotchas I need to be aware of? I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a few pointers. Cheers. By the way, just thought I'd say a big THANKS to Fernando and the members of this list for all the hard work and useful info that goes on. PlanetCCRMA is GREAT! Andrew From mccabem@ufl.edu Tue Jan 24 08:35:02 2006 From: mccabem@ufl.edu (Matthew McCabe) Date: Tue Jan 24 08:35:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Upgrading to FC4 In-Reply-To: <1138117690.5429.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: hi andrew & everyone - i'm new :) i've been undertaking the install for the last couple of days when i have some free time. the only troubles i ran into were a few package dependencies that are a bit mismatched with the ones that installed from my FC4 DVD -- i ended up with two installed versions of vixie-cron, hal, and a couple of other things (for some reason) which i had to fix with rpm -e. i actually ended up using the edgecore kernel which seems to be working OK. it boots, and i got all the packages installed over the net. there are a few notes on FC4 on the website: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installtwosix.html the only trouble is, my soundcard isn't working :) i have a SB AWE64 gold ISA card and though the GNOME soundcard detector and alsaconf pick up the fact that it's there, i can't seem to get it working properly. i know it's old, but if anybody has any suggestions they'd be welcome... -matt On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Andrew Longland-Meech wrote: > Yes I've decided to take the plunge and upgrade to FC4, so how do I do > it? > > I want to do a clean install rather than upgrade FC3, because that never > seems to work properly, and then put the Planet stuff on top. Now I'm > sure it's been discussed before and I'm sure there are some instructions > somewhere (I know they're not on the website yet), but I can't find > them! Is it just a case of following the FC3 instructions from the > website or are there any extra gotchas I need to be aware of? > > I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a few pointers. Cheers. > > By the way, just thought I'd say a big THANKS to Fernando and the > members of this list for all the hard work and useful info that goes on. > PlanetCCRMA is GREAT! -- matthew mccabe ph.d. student :: music composition :: university of florida http://plaza.ufl.edu/mccabem/ http://www.euph0r1a.net/ From p_m_groarke@yahoo.ca Tue Jan 24 08:39:01 2006 From: p_m_groarke@yahoo.ca (PMG) Date: Tue Jan 24 08:39:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060123200003.1186.91553.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20060124163716.79783.qmail@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and had some questions to ask. I've recently had problems when building programs from source. Some developement packages aren't provided for some libraries (like libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to install, but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if there is a way to get around building programs that require such dev-libraries that aren't provided? Also, My Nvidia video card module doesn't work with CCRMA's kernel (so my computer crashes sometimes, ex: screensaver). Anyway, if you anyone can help? Thanx for a great audio suite, it really helped me out alot! PMG __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 24 08:52:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jan 24 08:52:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060124163716.79783.qmail@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060124163716.79783.qmail@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1138121465.17262.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:37 -0500, PMG wrote: > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and had > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems when > building programs from source. Some developement > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to install, > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if there is > a way to get around building programs that require > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? In general all development libraries are provided, they are just not installed by default. For example, you may have "libsndfile" but if you want to build programs using it you have to do this as well: apt-get install libsndfile-devel That will bring all the necessary stuff... Look for a missing "-devel" package if you hit this in the future. -- Fernando > Also, My Nvidia video card module doesn't work with > CCRMA's kernel (so my computer crashes sometimes, ex: > screensaver). Anyway, if you anyone can help? > > Thanx for a great audio suite, it really helped me out > alot! From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Tue Jan 24 09:12:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Tue Jan 24 09:12:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200601241807.18627.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:26, Thomas Ahlstrom wrote: > Thanks for fast answer. I'm quite new to Linux and need more detais. > What to actually do with the paths and files you're refferring to. > /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 does not exist. > > Thanks again > /Thomas Hi Thomas. Could you post your replies at the bottom, as it makes it easier to follow the thread if anyone else wants to come in on this. Continued at bottom. > > >From: Nigel Henry > >To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > >CC: "Thomas Ahlstrom" > >Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound > >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:58:10 +0100 > > > >On Monday 23 January 2006 18:10, Thomas Ahlstrom wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Running Fedora 2 on a Dell machine with a SB card with > > > >emu10k1x-soundchip. > > > > > I have sound OK when running Fluidsynth and Rosegarden. > > > But when starting Jack, qsynth, qjackctl and Rosegarden -- no sound ! > > > Everything is running OK, qsynth receives midi signal -- but no sound! > > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thomas > > > >Can you check with: cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 that you have a > >soundfont loaded onto the soundcard. Exchange card0 to whatever your > >soundcard is in, cat /proc/asound/cards. Nigel. Ok. lets have a look at this. Just looking in /proc as user will produce nothing, and if files exist they will appear to be empty. Open a Konsole (CLI), and type. cat /proc/asound/cards . This will identify your soundcard, and show what position it is at. If you only have one soundcard, and no USB stuff (usb midi keyboards for instance) you should see the card listed as card 0. Next. Check whether you have the package "awesfx" (without the double quotes) installed. You can check this, again from the CLI, with. rpm -q awesfx. If you havn't got it, get it with. apt-get install awesfx , after running apt-get update, otherwise use synaptic. This package is needed to load the soundfont onto the card. So far so good. Again With the CLI (Konsole) type. /sbin/lsmod which will show you which modules you have loaded. You can send this to me by highlighting it with the left mouse button, and using the third mouse button paste it to the email client. You should see a module named. snd-emu10k1x-synth , which is needed for using the wavetable on the soundcard. If it's not loaded, su to root on the CLI, and type. /sbin/modprobe snd-emu10k1x-synth , which if it loads ok, should return you to the prompt. Now we need a soundfont. Did you get a CDROM for the soundcard with the DELL machine? You presumably have a soundfont loaded for using fluidsynth, which you say works. Did you load a soundfont onto Qsynth when you tried it? Back to the CDROM, if you have one. The soundfonts for my Audigy2 are in a directory named "Audio" on my CDROM. If you have a soundfont, copy it from the CDROM to your /home/user-name directory. The soundfont I'm using is named. CT4MGM.SF2. Presuming that you've got this far, we now need to load the soundfont onto the card. Again on the CLI. Type. sfxload . In my case. sfxload CT4MGM.SF2. Don't give up, if you've got this far and the soundfont don't load. The package awesfx which is used to load soundfonts, has 2 different loaders. One is asfxload , which is the Alsa version. The other is sfxload , which is the OSS version. Fedora only seems to have the OSS one "sfxload" available. For this to work, you need to check that you have the package "alsa-oss" installed. Check with synaptic. If you followed the instructions for all the planetccrma stuff, this should be installed. Ok. I'm presuming this has gone OK. Now again on the CLI. Type. cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 if your card is card 0, otherwise change it for 1, for instance. The output from this, that you can post to me, and the list, should show 1 soundfont loaded onto the soundcard, and you should be able to play .mid files with Kmid for instance. My wrists are aching now. Come back to me, and please post your reply below mine, for the sake of others watching. All the best. Nigel. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From clemens@ladisch.de Tue Jan 24 09:28:01 2006 From: clemens@ladisch.de (Clemens Ladisch) Date: Tue Jan 24 09:28:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [Alsa-user] delay in general In-Reply-To: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> References: <23817.1138101073@www092.gmx.net> Message-ID: <1138122011.43d65d1be283a@webmail.uni-halle.de> Alexander Car�t wrote: > 3.) Has anyone information about the communication layer USB-audio puts on > top of the PCI-bus and how much delay it takes ? USB data is sent in packets; time is divided into one-millisecond frames. USB audio sends the data for one millisecond in one packet (per frame). The host controller does not (and can not) guarantee when in a frame the packet is sent, so a packet that is to be sent in frame N must be prepared by the driver during frame N-1 (or earlier) and will be played by the device in frame N+1. For capturing, the situation is the same. > In other words : Can a USB device ever reach latencies like PCI-devices ? No. Clemens From samuraiskillz@blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 24 14:40:02 2006 From: samuraiskillz@blueyonder.co.uk (samuraiskillz@blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Tue Jan 24 14:40:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] call for artists - residency Northeast UK Message-ID: <23196.195.188.213.35.1138142386.squirrel@195.188.213.35> Hi list, Sorry if this is way off topic but we (The Polytechnic) are hosting 2 residencies in the North East of England during February possibly early March. Appologies for the short notice. Please visit http://ptechnic.org/gyoml/gyoml-av.html for more details Thanks Dominic From p_m_groarke@yahoo.ca Tue Jan 24 21:37:01 2006 From: p_m_groarke@yahoo.ca (PMG) Date: Tue Jan 24 21:37:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] devel libraries problem In-Reply-To: <1138121465.17262.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20060125053652.7682.qmail@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:37 -0500, PMG wrote: > > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and > had > > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems > when > > building programs from source. Some developement > > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to > install, > > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if > there is > > a way to get around building programs that require > > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? > > In general all development libraries are provided, > they are just not > installed by default. For example, you may have > "libsndfile" but if you > want to build programs using it you have to do this > as well: > > apt-get install libsndfile-devel > > That will bring all the necessary stuff... > Look for a missing "-devel" package if you hit this > in the future. > -- Fernando Hello, here is an example. I want to build beast from source. I need the libmad-devel package. I do: "yum search libmad" which gives me this: madplay.i386 0.15.2-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable libmad-devel.i386 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable Matched from: libmad-devel libmad.i386 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable Matched from: libmad libmad.i386 0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma installed Matched from: libmad And here is the problem, when I try to install the devel package, it says I don't have libmad.i386 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3. This is normal since I've got the CCRMA version (0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma) installed. I can't install the other version either so... dunno what to do, please help. Thanx, PMG. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From python@venix.com Wed Jan 25 04:32:06 2006 From: python@venix.com (Python) Date: Wed Jan 25 04:32:06 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] devel libraries problem In-Reply-To: <20060125053652.7682.qmail@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060125053652.7682.qmail@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1138192282.15004.965.camel@www.venix.com> On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 00:36 -0500, PMG wrote: > --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:37 -0500, PMG wrote: > > > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and > > had > > > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems > > when > > > building programs from source. Some developement > > > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > > > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to > > install, > > > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if > > there is > > > a way to get around building programs that require > > > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? > > > > In general all development libraries are provided, > > they are just not > > installed by default. For example, you may have > > "libsndfile" but if you > > want to build programs using it you have to do this > > as well: > > > > apt-get install libsndfile-devel > > > > That will bring all the necessary stuff... > > Look for a missing "-devel" package if you hit this > > in the future. > > -- Fernando > > Hello, here is an example. I want to build beast from > source. I need the libmad-devel package. I do: "yum > search libmad" which gives me this: > > madplay.i386 > 0.15.2-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > > libmad-devel.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > Matched from: > libmad-devel > > libmad.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > Matched from: > libmad > > libmad.i386 > 0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma installed > Matched from: > libmad > > And here is the problem, when I try to install the > devel package, it says I don't have libmad.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3. This is normal since I've got the > CCRMA version (0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma) installed. I > can't install the other version either so... dunno > what to do, please help. > > Thanx, PMG. The matching libmad-0.15.1b is in the Dries repository. [dries] name=Dries APT/YUM baseurl=http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/dries.ulyssis.org/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/dries/RPMS/ http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/dries/RPMS/ gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 gpgkey=http://apt.sw.be/dries/RPM-GPG-KEY.dries.txt You may find it useful to read these installation notes about mixing and matching repositories. http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_4_installation_notes.html > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 25 09:56:00 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 25 09:56:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: devel libraries problem In-Reply-To: <20060125053652.7682.qmail@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060125053652.7682.qmail@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1138211709.4734.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 00:36 -0500, PMG wrote: > --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:37 -0500, PMG wrote: > > > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and > > had > > > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems > > when > > > building programs from source. Some developement > > > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > > > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to > > install, > > > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if > > there is > > > a way to get around building programs that require > > > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? > > > > In general all development libraries are provided, > > they are just not > > installed by default. For example, you may have > > "libsndfile" but if you > > want to build programs using it you have to do this > > as well: > > > > apt-get install libsndfile-devel > > > > That will bring all the necessary stuff... > > Look for a missing "-devel" package if you hit this > > in the future. > > -- Fernando > > Hello, here is an example. I want to build beast from > source. I need the libmad-devel package. I do: "yum > search libmad" which gives me this: > > madplay.i386 > 0.15.2-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > > libmad-devel.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > Matched from: > libmad-devel > > libmad.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3 livna-stable > Matched from: > libmad > > libmad.i386 > 0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma installed > Matched from: > libmad > > And here is the problem, when I try to install the > devel package, it says I don't have libmad.i386 > 0.15.1-0.lvn.1.b.3. This is normal since I've got the > CCRMA version (0.15.1b-3.rhfc3.ccrma) installed. I > can't install the other version either so... dunno > what to do, please help. You could, for example, comment out livna from your apt configuration files and see if you can install ccrma's version. Most probably the library from the (newer?) livna version is not compatible with Planet CCRMA's version. -- Fernando From cave.dnb@tiscali.fr Wed Jan 25 11:21:01 2006 From: cave.dnb@tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Wed Jan 25 11:21:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] RE: midi problems & Offlist Message-ID: <200601252020.16468.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> I've enquired on the Alsa-user list, and it appears that the SBlive card that Dell have included is not likely to have a wavetable. This card appears to have been supplied specifically for Windows users, and uses Windows software to access certain features on the card. The best suggestion I have to resolve your problems is to buy an SBlive card using the emu10k1 driver. They are quite cheap, and probably under 20 bucks. I apologise for having inadvertantly lead you down a wrong path. With a proper SBlive, all the info I've given is correct, but please, make sure that the card you buy uses the emu10k1 driver, otherwise you will not be able to load soundfonts. Nigel. Thomas. I'm not sure if you got this that I sent direct to you. I'm sending it again, and to the planetccrma list. This is the reply that I got from Lee Revell at alsa-user list. My comment: > Oh. (Expletives removed) So this SBlive that Dell have installed using > emu10k1x is a bit of a joke. I'll suggest to the guy I'm posting to on the > planetccrma list to get a proper SBlive using emu10k1. Thanks for the reply. > Nigel. Lee's reply: Yes, exactly, it's a complete joke. Dell wanted to ship machines with "SBLive!" sound and was too cheap to spring for real ones so had Creative develop a "Win-modem" version that did everything interesting in software. Now all of Creative's new cards are like that. Lee Let me know how you get on. 20 or 25 bucks ain't here or there, and if you can get soundfonts loaded onto the card it's worth it. Think twice about Dell in the future. Nigel. Windoze is "THE" only OS. Who said that? Come on. Somebody answer! I'm still waiting............ From dave@paranoise.fsnet.co.uk Wed Jan 25 14:30:03 2006 From: dave@paranoise.fsnet.co.uk (David Beetham) Date: Wed Jan 25 14:30:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1568 - 12 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060124200003.1767.27459.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20060124200003.1767.27459.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1138228125.7591.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> A question re: alsa-lib I have tried to upgrade my version of the alsa-lib today but synaptic complains with the following message alsa-lib: Depends: alsa-driver (>=1.0.10) but 1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma is to be installed Depends: config(alsa-lib) (= 1.0.10-3.1.rhfc4.ccrma) Is there an easy fix to this problem ? DAveB On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 12:00 -0800, planetccrma-request@ccrma.Stanford.EDU wrote: > Send PlanetCCRMA mailing list submissions to > planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > planetccrma-request@ccrma.stanford.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > planetccrma-admin@ccrma.stanford.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PlanetCCRMA digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. some updates available for Fedora Core 4 (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) > 2. Re: Questions on Dual CPU's (Chris Synan) > 3. delay in general (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) > 4. mini blocksize card (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) > 5. Re: delay in general (Luis Garrido) > 6. Re: delay in general (Gregory Maxwell) > 7. Upgrading to FC4 (Andrew Longland-Meech) > 8. Re: Upgrading to FC4 (Matthew McCabe) > 9. Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs (PMG) > 10. Re: Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) > 11. Re: No sound (Nigel Henry) > 12. Re: [Alsa-user] delay in general (Clemens Ladisch) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU, planetccrmanews@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:56:56 -0800 > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] some updates available for Fedora Core 4 > > Hi all... long time between updates, right? > :-) > Well, some are coming, slowly. The end of stability, of course! > > Currently available on FC4 only (others eventually coming): > > * lash 0.5.0 - formerly known as LADCAA - is now available, the > update will override the previous ladcca packages. > * vkeybd rebuilt for the new lash > * jack rack updated to version 1.4.4 (uses the new lash) > * time machine updated to version 0.3.1 (uses the new lash) > * fluidsynth updated to version 1.0.6 (uses the new lash) > * swami rebuilt to use the new fluidsynth version > * qsynth updated to version 0.2.4 > * qjackctl updated to version 0.2.19a > * muse updated to version 0.7.2pre5 > > Also, alsa-lib has been rebuilt to include extra stuff that has been > available for a while in fedora's version (the ainit software package). > This may solve the breakage that some users have seen recently with > alsa-lib updates (version 1.0.10-3.1, overrides fedora's latest > update). > > Old news that never got posted: the lisp world has been rebuilt (CMUCL, > SBCL, Common Music with portmidi support, CLM3 and 2 and CMN). > > As usual, see the online changelog for more details... > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:32:25 -0600 > From: Chris Synan > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Questions on Dual CPU's > > Roy, > > I recently built an AMD dual core system for my recording rig, I mainly > use ardour and jamin. To me, the dual core platform was a big win in > bang for buck, especially for multithreaded apps. I am very pleased > with the performance of this system! > > Check out this earlier discussion on this topic: > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2005-December/010851.html > > Good luck, > > Chris > > > >I'm looking into a new system. I'm toying with the idea of dual CPU's. > >Here are my questions: > > > >1. Is anyone using duals as a recording/mixing/mastering platform? > >2. If so, is there a big performance increase? Is it a good bang for $$$ ? > >3. What kernel version is recommended? > >4. Intel or AMD? > > > >I want to get a good system, but I don't want to spend $$$ that I don't > >need or can't use. > > > >I'm planning on using Ardour and Audacity for a lot of my work. > > > >TIA, > >Roy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:11:13 +0100 (MET) > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?= > To: Luis Garrido > Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net, planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] delay in general > > > Good luck and let us know if you succeed. > > Hi Luis, > > thanks for the response ! I followed your link and noticed that you > experience the same in/out-delay (~ 15ms) with USB-soundcards. I'm a little > surprised because Emagic claims to reach delay in the area of 6ms under > Windows (ASIO) but I'm wondering if it's true. > > Actually it seems to me that the delay details are a pretty "wishy-washy" > issue - some questions regarding this : > > 1.) Can anyone recommend literature/links for soundcard DSP and > construction ? > 2.) summing up the delay types there's > > ADC-delay, blocking-delay, DAC-delay > > For the caputure process it's ADC+blocking (for 48kHz, 256 samples/frame = > 1ms (ADC)+ 5.6ms (blocking) = 6,6ms > > Assuming that the captured block would be inserted into the playback buffer > at the right time it wouldn't take any delay for playback process, right but > since it's a problem to get the buffers in sync it typically takes another > 6,6ms to play it back, right = so altogether = 2 * 6,6ms = 13,2 ms > in/out-delay. Is that correct ? > > 3.) Has anyone information about the communication layer USB-audio puts on > top of the PCI-bus and how much delay it takes ? In other words : Can a USB > device ever reach latencies like PCI-devices ? Also : I need an excellent > external device for my laptop. If USB isn't suitable what's the alternative > (Firewire, external PCI-Cards : which ones ?). > > Thanks in advance > > -- A l e x > > > > > > > > > -- > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Cart > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > DSL-Aktion wegen groer Nachfrage bis 28.2.2006 verlngert: > GMX DSL-Flatrate 1 Jahr kostenlos* http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:26:46 +0100 (MET) > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?= > To: carot@isnm.de > Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net, planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] mini blocksize card > > Hi to all, > > within my research goals I'm aiming to have lowest latencies ever. Looking > at typical PC-hardware it's obvious that blocksizes < 128 (sometimes < 64) > are impossible to reach due to the PCI bus with its DMA-transfers. > > So - what I thought of was building a "stand alone soundcard" able to handle > such small delays - actually kind of an "expressPCI"-thing. > > As a first initial idea I'd like to discuss this topic. If this is too much > "off topic" please let me know where I can find a better place to do this. > > Someone pointed to this : > > http://www.innovative-dsp.com/products/sd.htm > > Does it somehow go into this direction ? > > Best regards > > -- A l e x > > > > -- > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Cart > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail > +++ GMX - die erste Adresse fr Mail, Message, More +++ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:54:13 +0100 > From: Luis Garrido > To: =?UTF-8?Q?Alexander_Car=C3=B4t?= > Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net, planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: delay in general > > You can get lower latencies, but with very little reliability. Edirol > boasts a 5 ms minimum latency and you can force it, but the quality of > the sound resents when you get lower than 20ms. > > I believe that fireware audio support is still under development in Linux. > > If the budget is not an issue I guess your best bet is a PCMCIA > soundcard. I believe RME has some models and this company seems to > support Linux very actively, so there is probably a driver for them. > Check the alsa and the RME sites. > > Good luck, > > Luis > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:31:42 -0500 > From: Gregory Maxwell > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: delay in general > > On 1/24/06, Luis Garrido wrote: > > You can get lower latencies, but with very little reliability. Edirol > > boasts a 5 ms minimum latency and you can force it, but the quality of > > the sound resents when you get lower than 20ms. > > > > I believe that fireware audio support is still under development in Linux. > > > > If the budget is not an issue I guess your best bet is a PCMCIA > > soundcard. I believe RME has some models and this company seems to > > support Linux very actively, so there is probably a driver for them. > > Check the alsa and the RME sites. > > The multiface PCMCIA stuff works great, although some cardbus bridges > have issues with it (although similar problems exist under windows). > > I'm not so sure that I'd continue to say that RME supports linux all > that well anymore because their premiere product is not currently > supported... The older stuff (RME 9652, 9652 HDSP, multiface ,etc) > still work great, however. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: Andrew Longland-Meech > To: "planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU" > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:48:10 +0000 > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Upgrading to FC4 > > Hi Fernando and list! > > Yes I've decided to take the plunge and upgrade to FC4, so how do I do > it? > > I want to do a clean install rather than upgrade FC3, because that never > seems to work properly, and then put the Planet stuff on top. Now I'm > sure it's been discussed before and I'm sure there are some instructions > somewhere (I know they're not on the website yet), but I can't find > them! Is it just a case of following the FC3 instructions from the > website or are there any extra gotchas I need to be aware of? > > I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a few pointers. Cheers. > > By the way, just thought I'd say a big THANKS to Fernando and the > members of this list for all the hard work and useful info that goes on. > PlanetCCRMA is GREAT! > > Andrew > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:01 -0500 (EST) > From: Matthew McCabe > Reply-To: mccabem@ufl.edu > To: "planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU" > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Upgrading to FC4 > > > > hi andrew & everyone - > > i'm new :) i've been undertaking the install for the last couple of days > when i have some free time. > > the only troubles i ran into were a few package dependencies that are a > bit mismatched with the ones that installed from my FC4 DVD -- i ended up > with two installed versions of vixie-cron, hal, and a couple of other > things (for some reason) which i had to fix with rpm -e. > > i actually ended up using the edgecore kernel which seems to be working > OK. it boots, and i got all the packages installed over the net. there > are a few notes on FC4 on the website: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installtwosix.html > > the only trouble is, my soundcard isn't working :) i have a SB AWE64 gold > ISA card and though the GNOME soundcard detector and alsaconf pick up the > fact that it's there, i can't seem to get it working properly. i know > it's old, but if anybody has any suggestions they'd be welcome... > > -matt > > > > > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Andrew Longland-Meech wrote: > > Yes I've decided to take the plunge and upgrade to FC4, so how do I do > > it? > > > > I want to do a clean install rather than upgrade FC3, because that never > > seems to work properly, and then put the Planet stuff on top. Now I'm > > sure it's been discussed before and I'm sure there are some instructions > > somewhere (I know they're not on the website yet), but I can't find > > them! Is it just a case of following the FC3 instructions from the > > website or are there any extra gotchas I need to be aware of? > > > > I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a few pointers. Cheers. > > > > By the way, just thought I'd say a big THANKS to Fernando and the > > members of this list for all the hard work and useful info that goes on. > > PlanetCCRMA is GREAT! > > -- > matthew mccabe > ph.d. student :: music composition :: university of florida > http://plaza.ufl.edu/mccabem/ http://www.euph0r1a.net/ > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:37:16 -0500 (EST) > From: PMG > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs > > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and had > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems when > building programs from source. Some developement > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to install, > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if there is > a way to get around building programs that require > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? > > Also, My Nvidia video card module doesn't work with > CCRMA's kernel (so my computer crashes sometimes, ex: > screensaver). Anyway, if you anyone can help? > > Thanx for a great audio suite, it really helped me out > alot! > PMG > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 3 msgs > From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > To: PMG > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:51:05 -0800 > > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:37 -0500, PMG wrote: > > Hello! I've been using CCRMA for a while now, and had > > some questions to ask. I've recently had problems when > > building programs from source. Some developement > > packages aren't provided for some libraries (like > > libsndfile, which I had a great head-ache to install, > > but finally succeeded :). I was wondering if there is > > a way to get around building programs that require > > such dev-libraries that aren't provided? > > In general all development libraries are provided, they are just not > installed by default. For example, you may have "libsndfile" but if you > want to build programs using it you have to do this as well: > > apt-get install libsndfile-devel > > That will bring all the necessary stuff... > Look for a missing "-devel" package if you hit this in the future. > -- Fernando > > > Also, My Nvidia video card module doesn't work with > > CCRMA's kernel (so my computer crashes sometimes, ex: > > screensaver). Anyway, if you anyone can help? > > > > Thanx for a great audio suite, it really helped me out > > alot! > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: Nigel Henry > To: Thomas Ahlstrom > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:07:18 +0100 > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:26, Thomas Ahlstrom wrote: > > Thanks for fast answer. I'm quite new to Linux and need more detais. > > What to actually do with the paths and files you're refferring to. > > /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 does not exist. > > > > Thanks again > > /Thomas > Hi Thomas. Could you post your replies at the bottom, as it makes it easier to > follow the thread if anyone else wants to come in on this. > Continued at bottom. > > > > >From: Nigel Henry > > >To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > >CC: "Thomas Ahlstrom" > > >Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] No sound > > >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:58:10 +0100 > > > > > >On Monday 23 January 2006 18:10, Thomas Ahlstrom wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Running Fedora 2 on a Dell machine with a SB card with > > > > > >emu10k1x-soundchip. > > > > > > > I have sound OK when running Fluidsynth and Rosegarden. > > > > But when starting Jack, qsynth, qjackctl and Rosegarden -- no sound ! > > > > Everything is running OK, qsynth receives midi signal -- but no sound! > > > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > >Can you check with: cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 that you have a > > >soundfont loaded onto the soundcard. Exchange card0 to whatever your > > >soundcard is in, cat /proc/asound/cards. Nigel. > > Ok. lets have a look at this. Just looking in /proc as user will produce > nothing, and if files exist they will appear to be empty. Open a Konsole > (CLI), and type. > cat /proc/asound/cards . This will identify your soundcard, and show what > position it is at. If you only have one soundcard, and no USB stuff (usb midi > keyboards for instance) you should see the card listed as card 0. Next. Check > whether you have the package "awesfx" (without the double quotes) installed. > You can check this, again from the CLI, with. > rpm -q awesfx. If you havn't got it, get it with. apt-get install awesfx , > after running apt-get update, otherwise use synaptic. This package is needed > to load the soundfont onto the card. > > So far so good. Again With the CLI (Konsole) type. > /sbin/lsmod which will show you which modules you have loaded. You can send > this to me by highlighting it with the left mouse button, and using the third > mouse button paste it to the email client. You should see a module named. > snd-emu10k1x-synth , which is needed for using the wavetable on the soundcard. > If it's not loaded, su to root on the CLI, and type. > /sbin/modprobe snd-emu10k1x-synth , which if it loads ok, should return you > to the prompt. > > Now we need a soundfont. Did you get a CDROM for the soundcard with the DELL > machine? You presumably have a soundfont loaded for using fluidsynth, which > you say works. Did you load a soundfont onto Qsynth when you tried it? Back > to the CDROM, if you have one. The soundfonts for my Audigy2 are in a > directory named "Audio" on my CDROM. If you have a soundfont, copy it from > the CDROM to your /home/user-name directory. The soundfont I'm using is > named. CT4MGM.SF2. Presuming that you've got this far, we now need to load > the soundfont onto the card. Again on the CLI. Type. > sfxload . In my case. > sfxload CT4MGM.SF2. > > Don't give up, if you've got this far and the soundfont don't load. The > package awesfx which is used to load soundfonts, has 2 different loaders. One > is asfxload , which is the Alsa version. The other is sfxload , which is the > OSS version. Fedora only seems to have the OSS one "sfxload" available. For > this to work, you need to check that you have the package "alsa-oss" > installed. Check with synaptic. If you followed the instructions for all the > planetccrma stuff, this should be installed. > > Ok. I'm presuming this has gone OK. Now again on the CLI. Type. > cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 if your card is card 0, otherwise change > it for 1, for instance. The output from this, that you can post to me, and > the list, should show 1 soundfont loaded onto the soundcard, and you should > be able to play .mid files with Kmid for instance. > > My wrists are aching now. Come back to me, and please post your reply below > mine, for the sake of others watching. All the best. Nigel. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:00:11 +0100 > From: Clemens Ladisch > To: Alexander =?iso-8859-1?b?Q2Fy9HQ=?= > Cc: Luis Garrido , > alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net, planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [Alsa-user] delay in general > > Alexander Cart wrote: > > 3.) Has anyone information about the communication layer USB-audio puts on > > top of the PCI-bus and how much delay it takes ? > > USB data is sent in packets; time is divided into one-millisecond frames. > USB audio sends the data for one millisecond in one packet (per frame). > The host controller does not (and can not) guarantee when in a frame the packet > is sent, so a packet that is to be sent in frame N must be prepared by the > driver during frame N-1 (or earlier) and will be played by the device in frame > N+1. For capturing, the situation is the same. > > > In other words : Can a USB device ever reach latencies like PCI-devices ? > > No. > > > Clemens > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > End of PlanetCCRMA Digest > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 25 15:24:00 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 25 15:24:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa-lib breakage In-Reply-To: <1138228125.7591.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060124200003.1767.27459.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <1138228125.7591.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1138231410.4734.38.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 22:28 +0000, David Beetham wrote: > A question re: alsa-lib > > I have tried to upgrade my version of the alsa-lib today but synaptic > complains with the following message > > alsa-lib: > Depends: alsa-driver (>=1.0.10) but 1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma is to be > installed > Depends: config(alsa-lib) (= 1.0.10-3.1.rhfc4.ccrma) What version of alsa-driver do you have in the apt cache? apt-cache policy alsa-driver and it would also be interesting to know: apt-cache policy alsa-lib > Is there an easy fix to this problem ? Argh, two mistakes on my part, I think. The new alsa-lib was transferred to the wrong repository (planetccrma instead of planetcore - I just fixed that). And the alsa-lib package requires a newer version of alsa-driver than the one included in the standard repository. I will build a new alsa-lib package that does not have that dependency so that it will be installable with older versions of the kernel/alsa-driver. Expect it online shortly... -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 25 15:30:03 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 25 15:30:03 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] alsa-lib breakage In-Reply-To: <1138231410.4734.38.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20060124200003.1767.27459.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <1138228125.7591.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138231410.4734.38.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1138231750.4734.41.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 15:23 -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 22:28 +0000, David Beetham wrote: > > A question re: alsa-lib > > > > I have tried to upgrade my version of the alsa-lib today but synaptic > > complains with the following message > > > > alsa-lib: > > Depends: alsa-driver (>=1.0.10) but 1.0.9b-1.rhfc4.ccrma is to be > > installed > > Depends: config(alsa-lib) (= 1.0.10-3.1.rhfc4.ccrma) > > What version of alsa-driver do you have in the apt cache? > apt-cache policy alsa-driver > and it would also be interesting to know: > apt-cache policy alsa-lib > > > Is there an easy fix to this problem ? > > [MUNCH] > I will > build a new alsa-lib package that does not have that dependency so that > it will be installable with older versions of the kernel/alsa-driver. > Expect it online shortly... It is online now... hopefully this will fix the problem (I did not see it because I'm using the planetedge kernels and those have the proper alsa-driver version that matches the newer alsa-lib). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jan 25 18:29:01 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jan 25 18:29:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] more updates and new packages for fc4 Message-ID: <1138242506.4734.54.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Some more updates... when it rains it pours! :-) New packages on fc4: * NEW: japa version 0.2.1-1 (a perceptual audio analyser, very cool!) also: * rezound version 0.12.2beta-1 * denemo version 0.7.4 * amsynth version 1.1.0-0.1.cvs (this one required building libsigc++20, glibmm24 and gtkmm24, source borrowed from fedora extras) Updated packages on fc4: * sweep to version 0.9.0 * audacity to version 1.2.4b the planetccrma-* meta packages have been updated to include rezound, denemo, amsynth and japa. More details available, as usual, in the online changelog. Enjoy! -- Fernando From Cumhur.Erkut@tkk.fi Thu Jan 26 07:09:01 2006 From: Cumhur.Erkut@tkk.fi (Cumhur Erkut) Date: Thu Jan 26 07:09:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] snd-virmidi problem: /dev/midi* absent Message-ID: <43D8E55E.8080807@tkk.fi> Dear planetccrma list, I cannot get snd-virmidi working on FC4. I believe it is loaded, so is snd-seq, but the /dev/snd/midi* files are absent; no sequencer clients are created, and aconnect -io does not enlist any ports. The following did not help: #modprobe snd-virmidi /sbin/depmod -a alsasound stop/start/restart /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on Any help is appreciated. Thanks for your time. [cerkut@rumba ~]$ uname -a Linux rumba.hut.fi 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma #1 PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 15:50:29 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux ALSA parts of /etc/modprobe.conf: ... ### ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx options snd-via82xx index=0 install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-via82xx { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-via82xx # OSS alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss # SND-VIRMIDI alias snd-card-1 snd-virmidi options snd-virmidi index=1 alias sound-slot-1 snd-virmidi [cerkut@rumba ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep snd snd_via82xx_modem 16520 0 snd_virmidi 5200 1 snd_seq_virmidi 8320 1 snd_virmidi snd_via82xx 30488 2 gameport 16264 1 snd_via82xx snd_ac97_codec 93600 2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx snd_ac97_bus 2688 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 4228 0 snd_seq_oss 37760 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7808 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss snd_seq 59280 6 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss 63136 0 snd_mixer_oss 19072 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 104964 4 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 27140 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11528 3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 8576 1 snd_via82xx snd_rawmidi 27296 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 9356 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd 65900 18 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 2 snd [cerkut@rumba ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd total 0 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 0 Jan 26 2006 controlC0 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 64 Jan 26 2006 controlC2 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 24 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 16 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 25 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 17 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 88 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 80 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 1 Jan 26 2006 seq crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 33 Jan 26 2006 timer [cerkut@rumba ~]$ aconnect -io client 0: 'System' [type=kernel] 0 'Timer ' 1 'Announce ' client 62: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel] 0 'Midi Through Port-0' -- Cumhur -- -------------------------------------------------------- Cumhur Erkut, D.Sc.(Tech) Helsinki University of Technology Laboratory of Acoustics and Audio Signal Processing Street address: Otakaari 5A, 02150 Espoo, SE 221 Postal address: P.O. Box 3000, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland Email: Cumhur.Erkut@hut.fi Phone: +358-9-451-5349 GSM : +358-40-707-1213 Fax: +358-9-460-224 http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~cerkut/ -------------------------------------------------------- From brandon.m.simmons@gmail.com Thu Jan 26 08:32:14 2006 From: brandon.m.simmons@gmail.com (Brandon Simmons) Date: Thu Jan 26 08:32:14 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: crashes and repository questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay, finally I've got everything working. I fixed my repository problems and upgraded to the last smp edge kernel. Everything worked fine except that the system would hang at the end of boot. I added acpi=off to the grub boot line which solved the problem. Thanks for making such a sweet project Fernando! Brandon On 1/20/06, Brandon Simmons wrote: > Hi, > I have been having problems with ardour and various other audio apps > freezing my machine under a fresh minimal install of fedora core 3 and > ccrma on my laptop. After finding this mailing list and the ccrma > changelog, it seems some of the packages and kernel I'm using are not > the most recent versions, yet apt-get seems to think everything is up > to date. Here are the repositories that I am using: > > /---------------\ > # rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetedge > rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 core updates > rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetccrma > rpm http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/ fedora/3/i386 planetcore > \----------------/ > > when I added the edge repository it gave me a few updates but wanted > to downgrade the kernel to solve dependencies? This is my kernel > version: > > 2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc3.ccrmasmp > > I know I'm missing something that I'm sure is obvious but I've had no > luck trying to figure this out on my own. Hopefully everything will > work once the machine is up to date. Sorry if this is a stupid > question. > > Thanks for your help, > Brandon > From Cumhur.Erkut@hut.fi Thu Jan 26 08:35:30 2006 From: Cumhur.Erkut@hut.fi (Cumhur Erkut) Date: Thu Jan 26 08:35:30 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] snd-virmidi problem: /dev/midi* absent Message-ID: <43D8E3E3.4040002@hut.fi> Dear planetccrma list, I cannot get snd-virmidi working on FC4. I believe it is loaded, so is snd-seq, but the /dev/snd/midi* files are absent; no sequencer clients are created, and aconnect -io does not enlist any ports. The following did not help: #modprobe snd-virmidi /sbin/depmod -a alsasound stop/start/restart /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on Any help is appreciated. Thanks for your time. [cerkut@rumba ~]$ uname -a Linux rumba.hut.fi 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma #1 PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 15:50:29 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux ALSA parts of /etc/modprobe.conf: ... ### ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx options snd-via82xx index=0 install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-via82xx { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-via82xx # OSS alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss # SND-VIRMIDI alias snd-card-1 snd-virmidi options snd-virmidi index=1 alias sound-slot-1 snd-virmidi [cerkut@rumba ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep snd snd_via82xx_modem 16520 0 snd_virmidi 5200 1 snd_seq_virmidi 8320 1 snd_virmidi snd_via82xx 30488 2 gameport 16264 1 snd_via82xx snd_ac97_codec 93600 2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx snd_ac97_bus 2688 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 4228 0 snd_seq_oss 37760 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7808 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss snd_seq 59280 6 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss 63136 0 snd_mixer_oss 19072 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 104964 4 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 27140 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11528 3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 8576 1 snd_via82xx snd_rawmidi 27296 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 9356 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd 65900 18 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 2 snd [cerkut@rumba ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd total 0 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 0 Jan 26 2006 controlC0 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 64 Jan 26 2006 controlC2 crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 24 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 16 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 25 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 17 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 88 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0c crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 80 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0p crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 1 Jan 26 2006 seq crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 33 Jan 26 2006 timer [cerkut@rumba ~]$ aconnect -io client 0: 'System' [type=kernel] 0 'Timer ' 1 'Announce ' client 62: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel] 0 'Midi Through Port-0' -- Cumhur From dawsonwu@rahul.net Thu Jan 26 11:36:04 2006 From: dawsonwu@rahul.net (ken dawson chia wu) Date: Thu Jan 26 11:36:04 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Recent planet updates conflict with FC4 package Message-ID: <20060126113538.A31161@rahul.net> Hi, I try to keen my Planet FC4 installation up to date both with Fedora and with the Planet. The most recent Planet update produced the following conflict. # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be upgraded audacity (1.2.3-5.2.rhfc4.ccrma => 1.2.4b-1.rhfc4.ccrma) clalsadrv (1.0.1-1.rhfc4.ccrma => 1.0.3-1.rhfc4.ccrma) planetccrma-audioapps (2005.11.24-1.rhfc4.ccrma => 2006.01.25-1.rhfc4.ccrma) sweep (0.8.3-2.rhfc4.ccrma => 0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma) Fetched 9968kB in 37s (269kB/s) Checking GPG signatures... ########################################### [100%] Committing changes... Preparing... ########################################### [100%] file /usr/bin/sweep from install of sweep-0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma conflicts with file from package lam-7.1.1-7.FC4 file /usr/share/man/man1/sweep.1.gz from install of sweep-0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma conflicts with file from package lam-7.1.1-7.FC4 E: Error while running transaction I worked around it by removing the the lam package with yum and then updating from Planetccrma. The version required by sweep was installed. Not all conflicts are so easily addressed. /ken From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jan 26 12:51:02 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jan 26 12:51:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Recent planet updates conflict with FC4 package In-Reply-To: <20060126113538.A31161@rahul.net> References: <20060126113538.A31161@rahul.net> Message-ID: <1138308619.16752.23.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 11:35 -0800, ken dawson chia wu wrote: > I try to keen my Planet FC4 installation up to date both with Fedora and > with the Planet. The most recent Planet update produced the following > conflict. > > # apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Calculating Upgrade... Done > The following packages will be upgraded > audacity (1.2.3-5.2.rhfc4.ccrma => 1.2.4b-1.rhfc4.ccrma) > clalsadrv (1.0.1-1.rhfc4.ccrma => 1.0.3-1.rhfc4.ccrma) > planetccrma-audioapps (2005.11.24-1.rhfc4.ccrma => 2006.01.25-1.rhfc4.ccrma) > sweep (0.8.3-2.rhfc4.ccrma => 0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma) > > Fetched 9968kB in 37s (269kB/s) > Checking GPG signatures... ########################################### [100%] > Committing changes... > Preparing... ########################################### [100%] > file /usr/bin/sweep from install of sweep-0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma conflicts with file from package lam-7.1.1-7.FC4 > file /usr/share/man/man1/sweep.1.gz from install of sweep-0.9.0-1.rhfc4.ccrma conflicts with file from package lam-7.1.1-7.FC4 > E: Error while running transaction > > I worked around it by removing the the lam package with yum and then > updating from Planetccrma. The version required by sweep was installed. > Not all conflicts are so easily addressed. I know... this one was "introduced" by an upgrade in lam coming from Fedora (lam is a parallel computing environment completely unrelated to sweep). Lam has now a binary named sweep and I can't think of any way around it :-(, after all sweep is named sweep... -- Fernando From rock808@gmail.com Thu Jan 26 14:42:01 2006 From: rock808@gmail.com (David Slimp) Date: Thu Jan 26 14:42:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How-To Audition? Message-ID: Well, as the online wiki says... Auditioning is a good thing. And it's suggested reading how to set this up before getting "confused and then irritated"... well, I guess I'm just about to the irritated phase, so thought I'd write in. :) Perhaps since it's so important, there should be SOME little bit on how to do this in Ardour? .. on the wiki? Anyway... I've hooked my guitar in to the Line-In of my sound card. From the Ardour Mixer I can see that track 3 show a good "input" level coming in. When the transport is stopped, then I hear my playing over the speakers very loudly. When I'm in play-mode, the guitar is barely heard. I also noticed that if I click on the "pre" and "post" buttons on the mixer for my guitar track, then those show NO volume level at all! -- when the other tracks are playing, but show full volume levels when I press STOP. What else do I need to do? Thanks! David -- David Slimp rock808@gmail.com http://www.MySpace.com/rock808 = "On proprietary platforms, eventually you'll run into 'you can't do that.' On open platforms, you'll run into 'you have to learn more to do that.' " -- Ian Smith-Heisters From rock808@gmail.com Thu Jan 26 15:58:01 2006 From: rock808@gmail.com (David Slimp) Date: Thu Jan 26 15:58:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How-To Audition? Message-ID: oops... That previous message was meant for the Ardour Mailing list... sorry. Also, I poked around a bit more and found a solution! For anyone interested... I just had to turn off "Hardware monitoring" in the Windows -> Options Editor -> Misc tab in Ardour. I also found it helpful to check the "run plugins while recording" in that same tab... Hope that helps someone! David From BJaY@safe-mail.net Fri Jan 27 03:23:02 2006 From: BJaY@safe-mail.net (BJaY) Date: Fri Jan 27 03:23:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No more heavy metal on fc4 Message-ID: Just installed fc4 + planetccrma, went without a hitch, very slick. BUT, I loaded my guitar amp settings into jack-rack (includes Tube preamp emulation+tone controls) and the distortions gone all weedy. On full, I get a blusey crunch. The control goes up to 10, have the plugins been changed recently ? It used to scream big time. I'm back to using my RAT at the moment... Any help appreciated. Cheers, Bruce. From link@sumerianbabyl.com Fri Jan 27 07:14:02 2006 From: link@sumerianbabyl.com (Link Swanson) Date: Fri Jan 27 07:14:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No more heavy metal on fc4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43DA3A19.30201@sumerianbabyl.com> I'm using FC4 CCRMA Jack-Rack 1.1.4 and I haven't been too impressed with the distortions. Please post any configurations or settings that make your axe crunch! Thanks! Link BJaY wrote: >Just installed fc4 + planetccrma, went without a hitch, very slick. BUT, I >loaded my guitar amp settings into jack-rack (includes Tube preamp >emulation+tone controls) and the distortions gone all weedy. On full, I get >a blusey crunch. The control goes up to 10, have the plugins been changed >recently ? It used to scream big time. I'm back to using my RAT at the >moment... Any help appreciated. > >Cheers, > >Bruce. > >_______________________________________________ >PlanetCCRMA mailing list >PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu >http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > From BruceJLee@safe-mail.net Fri Jan 27 09:46:00 2006 From: BruceJLee@safe-mail.net (Bruce Lee) Date: Fri Jan 27 09:46:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No more Heavy metal in fc4 Message-ID: Just installed fc4 + planetccrma, went without a hitch, very slick. BUT, I loaded my guitar amp settings into jack-rack (includes Tube preamp emulation+tone controls) and the distortions gone all weedy. On full, I get a blusey crunch. The control goes up to 10, have the plugins been changed recently ? It used to scream big time. I'm back to using my RAT at the moment... Any help appreciated. Cheers, Bruce. From BJaY@safe-mail.net Fri Jan 27 10:55:02 2006 From: BJaY@safe-mail.net (BJaY) Date: Fri Jan 27 10:55:02 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] No more heavy metal on fc4 In-Reply-To: <43DA3A19.30201@sumerianbabyl.com> Message-ID: This was my Lead setup on FC3 but, on FC4 with all the changes there's no drive, I rekon the plug has changed, I think my levels are OK : Tube preamp+tone controls gain 8.9 temperature 0 bass 0 mid 0 treble 11.9 hi 0 Amp/speaker simulation model 5 gain -13.5 Freeverb(3) room size .82 damping 0 wet .165 dry .391 Width .7 -----Original Message----- From: Link Swanson [mailto:link@sumerianbabyl.com] Sent: 27 January 2006 15:20 To: BJaY; planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] No more heavy metal on fc4 I'm using FC4 CCRMA Jack-Rack 1.1.4 and I haven't been too impressed with the distortions. Please post any configurations or settings that make your axe crunch! Thanks! Link BJaY wrote: >Just installed fc4 + planetccrma, went without a hitch, very slick. BUT, I >loaded my guitar amp settings into jack-rack (includes Tube preamp >emulation+tone controls) and the distortions gone all weedy. On full, I get >a blusey crunch. The control goes up to 10, have the plugins been changed >recently ? It used to scream big time. I'm back to using my RAT at the >moment... Any help appreciated. > >Cheers, > >Bruce. > >_______________________________________________ >PlanetCCRMA mailing list >PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu >http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > From Cumhur.Erkut@tkk.fi Mon Jan 30 04:23:01 2006 From: Cumhur.Erkut@tkk.fi (Cumhur Erkut) Date: Mon Jan 30 04:23:01 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: snd-virmidi problem: /dev/midi* absent In-Reply-To: <43D8E3E3.4040002@hut.fi> References: <43D8E3E3.4040002@hut.fi> Message-ID: <43DE0499.1030303@tkk.fi> Dear list, For further investigation, I've commented out the snd-virmidi entries in the /etc/modprobe.conf, rebooted, and checked: # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [V8235 ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235 VIA 8235 with ALC202 at 0x1000, irq 18 1 [modem ]: VIA82XX-MODEM - VIA 82XX modem VIA 82XX modem at 0x1400, irq 18 (snd-via82xx-modem is not in my modprobe.conf, I wonder how it got there. IRQ 18 looks bad, but will try to handle it later). Since cards 0 and 1 are allocated, I try this (and get a nice Seg-fault): [root@rumba ~]# modprobe snd-virmidi index=2 Segmentation fault It however it is enlisted: [root@rumba ~]# lsmod | grep snd snd_virmidi 5200 1 snd_seq_virmidi 8320 1 snd_virmidi snd_via82xx_modem 16520 0 snd_via82xx 30488 2 gameport 16264 1 snd_via82xx snd_ac97_codec 93600 2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx snd_ac97_bus 2688 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 4228 0 snd_seq_oss 37760 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7808 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss snd_seq 59280 6 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss 63136 0 snd_mixer_oss 19072 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 104964 4 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 27140 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11528 3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 8576 1 snd_via82xx snd_rawmidi 27296 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 9356 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd 65900 20 snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 1 snd /etc/init.d/alsasound stop or restart indicates that snd-virmidi is in use [root@rumba ~]# /etc/init.d/alsasound restart Shutting down sound driverERROR: Module snd_virmidi is in use ERROR: Module snd_seq_virmidi is in use by snd_virmidi ERROR: Module snd_seq_midi_event is in use by snd_seq_virmidi ERROR: Module snd_seq is in use by snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_seq ERROR: Module snd_rawmidi is in use by snd_seq_virmidi ERROR: Module snd_seq_device is in use by snd_seq,snd_rawmidi ERROR: Module snd is in use by snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device [ OK ] ALSA driver already running Starting sound driver snd-via82xx [ OK ] Starting sequencer , [ OK ] Starting sequencer driver snd-seq-oss [ OK ] Restoring sound driver settings [ OK ] but still nothing in /proc/asound/cards [root@rumba ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [V8235 ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235 VIA 8235 with ALC202 at 0x1000, irq 18 (I wonder what happened to snd-via82xx-modem). Still no midi in /dev/snd, acconect -io now gives client 0: 'System' [type=kernel] 0 'Timer ' 1 'Announce ' [root@rumba ~]# Any suggestions how to make snd-virmidi work? Thanks, Cumhur > Dear planetccrma list, > > I cannot get snd-virmidi working on FC4. I believe it is loaded, so is > snd-seq, but the /dev/snd/midi* files are absent; no sequencer clients > are created, and aconnect -io does not enlist any ports. > > The following did not help: > #modprobe snd-virmidi > /sbin/depmod -a > alsasound stop/start/restart > /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on > > Any help is appreciated. Thanks for your time. > > [cerkut@rumba ~]$ uname -a > Linux rumba.hut.fi 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma #1 PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 > 15:50:29 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > > ALSA parts of /etc/modprobe.conf: > ... > ### ALSA portion > alias char-major-116 snd > alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx > options snd-via82xx index=0 > install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx && > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-via82xx { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-via82xx > > # OSS > alias char-major-14 soundcore > alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx > > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > # SND-VIRMIDI > alias snd-card-1 snd-virmidi > options snd-virmidi index=1 > alias sound-slot-1 snd-virmidi > > [cerkut@rumba ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep snd > snd_via82xx_modem 16520 0 > snd_virmidi 5200 1 > snd_seq_virmidi 8320 1 snd_virmidi > snd_via82xx 30488 2 > gameport 16264 1 snd_via82xx > snd_ac97_codec 93600 2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx > snd_ac97_bus 2688 1 snd_ac97_codec > snd_seq_dummy 4228 0 > snd_seq_oss 37760 0 > snd_seq_midi_event 7808 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss > snd_seq 59280 6 > snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event > snd_pcm_oss 63136 0 > snd_mixer_oss 19072 2 snd_pcm_oss > snd_pcm 104964 4 > snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss > snd_timer 27140 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > snd_page_alloc 11528 3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm > snd_mpu401_uart 8576 1 snd_via82xx > snd_rawmidi 27296 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart > snd_seq_device 9356 4 > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi > snd 65900 18 > snd_via82xx_modem,snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device > > soundcore 10336 2 snd > > [cerkut@rumba ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd > total 0 > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 0 Jan 26 2006 controlC0 > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 64 Jan 26 2006 controlC2 > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 24 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0c > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 16 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D0p > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 25 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1c > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 17 Jan 26 2006 pcmC0D1p > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 88 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0c > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 80 Jan 26 2006 pcmC2D0p > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 1 Jan 26 2006 seq > crw------- 1 cerkut root 116, 33 Jan 26 2006 timer > > [cerkut@rumba ~]$ aconnect -io > client 0: 'System' [type=kernel] > 0 'Timer ' > 1 'Announce ' > client 62: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel] > 0 'Midi Through Port-0' > From tompoe@studioforrecording.org Mon Jan 30 16:09:00 2006 From: tompoe@studioforrecording.org (Tom Poe) Date: Mon Jan 30 16:09:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] advice on upgrade from fc1 to fc4 request Message-ID: <43DEAA99.3060100@studioforrecording.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000909090909080701090008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have completed an upgrade from fc1 to fc4, using a 4 CD set from Cheapbytes. All appears OK. I now want to upgrade CCRMA to fc4. Where is the best place to find steps to take? Has anyone else done this? Can someone point me in the right direction? I checked the planetccrma instructions, even tried a quick rpm -Uvh . .. apt for fc4, but ran into dependencies issues for synaptic fc1 version that is installed. So, I'm thinking maybe yum is the way to go? Any advice appreciated. Tom -- 94% of returning troops suffer trauma Open Studios, Charles City, Iowa, USA www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ --------------000909090909080701090008 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="tompoe.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tompoe.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Tom Poe n:Poe;Tom org:Open Studios adr:;;510 15th Avenue;Charles City;IA;50616;USA email;internet:tompoe@studioforrecording.org title:Director tel;work:641-228-3271 tel;home:641-228-3271 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000909090909080701090008-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jan 30 16:18:00 2006 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jan 30 16:18:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] advice on upgrade from fc1 to fc4 request In-Reply-To: <43DEAA99.3060100@studioforrecording.org> References: <43DEAA99.3060100@studioforrecording.org> Message-ID: <1138666660.11923.65.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 18:08 -0600, Tom Poe wrote: > I have completed an upgrade from fc1 to fc4, using a 4 CD set from > Cheapbytes. All appears OK. I now want to upgrade CCRMA to fc4. Where > is the best place to find steps to take? Has anyone else done this? > Can someone point me in the right direction? I checked the planetccrma > instructions, even tried a quick rpm -Uvh . .. apt for fc4, but ran into > dependencies issues for synaptic fc1 version that is installed. So, I'm > thinking maybe yum is the way to go? Any advice appreciated. Hmmm, I have not tried an upgrade in a long time... Anyway. You probably should compile a list of installed "leftover" packages that were installed in fc1. If you only had Planet CCRMA software then something like this should do it: rpm -q -a|grep rhfc1 >fc1-packages.txt (a list of packages will be written to the text file) You mention dependency problems when trying to install the fc4 apt program, what the exact error messages? If it is saying that something else needs the libraries provided by the old apt, then just erase that package (and write it down so that you can add the fc4 version later). As you say, synaptic is probably the only one, so do "rpm -e synaptic" and then try to install the fc4 version of apt. After that is in place the first thing I'd do is an: apt-get check That will verify that all packages you have currently installed in the machine have all their dependencies met. If the output signals a conflict or conflicts we'll have to see what's the best way to resolve it/them. Once the dependencies are clean you could try an "apt-get dist-upgrade" just to see what packages could be upgraded. Or "apt-get install" all the fc1 packages identified by the first list. -- Fernando From saul_lethbridge@hotmail.com Tue Jan 31 15:56:00 2006 From: saul_lethbridge@hotmail.com (Saul Lethbridge) Date: Tue Jan 31 15:56:00 2006 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Ardour Help (wiki) Message-ID: Hi all, I'm wanting to find the Ardour wiki (url)...if someone can post here that would be great. Also, I remember a couple of months ago I had a look at Ardour but it seemed very complicated. All I wanted to do was create a new region and add various sound files to it. It seemed as though I had to place the sound files first and then create a region from that? Is that true? It seems Ardour is a (way) bit more complicated than the other sequencers I've used (Cubase,Logic). _________________________________________________________________ realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au