From admin.covenantofblood@gmail.com Wed Oct 3 09:06:01 2007 From: admin.covenantofblood@gmail.com (pyrael) Date: Wed Oct 3 08:06:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] is rosegarden available for 64 bit? Message-ID: <13013335.post@talk.nabble.com> as the topic states...... I am preparing to switch to a new 64 bit computer. I looked in the repo and didn't find a package for rosegarden4, but then again in /6/i386/, /6/x86_64/ , and /7/i386/ I also did not find the package. I hope it's available and just not listed lol. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/is-rosegarden-available-for-64-bit--tf4559992.html#a13013335 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 3 11:27:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 3 10:27:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] is rosegarden available for 64 bit? In-Reply-To: <13013335.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <13013335.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1191432391.12558.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:03 -0700, pyrael wrote: > as the topic states...... > > I am preparing to switch to a new 64 bit computer. I looked in the repo and > didn't find a package for rosegarden4, but then again in /6/i386/, > /6/x86_64/ , and /7/i386/ I also did not find the package. I hope it's > available and just not listed lol. Rosegarden moved a while back to Fedora proper and it should be available from the normal Fedora repos for all archs... -- Fernando From David_J_Cox@uk.ibm.com Wed Oct 3 13:04:02 2007 From: David_J_Cox@uk.ibm.com (David J Cox) Date: Wed Oct 3 12:04:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] David J Cox is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 01/10/2007 and will not return until 04/10/2007. I am in Stockholm presenting at the System p Top Gun. I expect I will have email access but will not be available very much. I will check and reply to mail and voicemail when I can. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 3 17:22:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 3 16:22:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] updated: ardour2, chuck; added: audicle Message-ID: <1191453608.12558.64.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi all, Ardour is up to version 2.1. One caveat (from the release notes): ---- !!NOTE!! One or more of the minor GUI fixes listed below will not take effect unless you remove your ~/.ardour2/ardour2_ui.conf file. ---- Also, chuck has been updated to 1.2.1.1 and I have added the audicle version 1.0.0.6 to fc6/7 (only i386 so far, still does not work on x86_64). -- Fernando From gmunyard at iinet.net.au Thu Oct 4 10:44:01 2007 From: gmunyard at iinet.net.au (GREGORY C.W. MUNYARD) Date: Thu Oct 4 09:44:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] updated: ardour2, chuck; added: audicle In-Reply-To: <1191453608.12558.64.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1191453608.12558.64.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1191515947.20284.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-rfVd0Mhm4vD3wiaHa4Ef Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nando Thanks for the updates. I've been using Hydrogen for some rhythm patterns and I imported them into Ardour 2 a few days ago. Ardour 2 converted the patterns to wav files and used it in the song I have recorded in Ardour. Having downloaded your updates, and having reconstructed the hydrogen rhythm patterns, now Ardour 2 will not take the new *.h2song files from Hydrogen and convert them for use in the Ardour recording when I "add existing audio". Any suggestions? Regards Greg Munyard Perth Western Australia --=-rfVd0Mhm4vD3wiaHa4Ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nando

Thanks for the updates.  I've been using Hydrogen for some rhythm patterns and I imported them into Ardour 2 a few days ago.  Ardour 2 converted the patterns to wav files and used it in the song I have recorded in Ardour.  Having downloaded your updates, and having reconstructed the hydrogen rhythm patterns, now Ardour 2 will not take the new *.h2song files from Hydrogen and convert them for use in the Ardour recording when I "add existing audio".  Any suggestions?

Regards

Greg Munyard
Perth
Western Australia --=-rfVd0Mhm4vD3wiaHa4Ef-- From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 4 11:34:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 4 10:34:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] updated: ardour2, chuck; added: audicle In-Reply-To: <1191515947.20284.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1191453608.12558.64.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1191515947.20284.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1191519186.10002.1.camel@cmn15.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 00:39 +0800, GREGORY C.W. MUNYARD wrote: > Nando > > Thanks for the updates. I've been using Hydrogen for some rhythm > patterns and I imported them into Ardour 2 a few days ago. Ardour 2 > converted the patterns to wav files and used it in the song I have > recorded in Ardour. Having downloaded your updates, and having > reconstructed the hydrogen rhythm patterns, now Ardour 2 will not take > the new *.h2song files from Hydrogen and convert them for use in the > Ardour recording when I "add existing audio". Any suggestions? Hmmm, I'm not sure I follow, but ardour will not know what to do with *h2song files, you have to give it just wav files (or any other libsndfile compatible format). So you'd need to actually record the output of Hydrogen into a pair of Ardour tracks (or somehow record them outside and import the resulting wav files into Ardour). -- Fernando From fluffy.gibson at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 17:06:01 2007 From: fluffy.gibson at gmail.com (Richard Gibson) Date: Thu Oct 4 16:06:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Gate in Ardour Message-ID: ------=_Part_21595_6171027.1191539127931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there Thanks for the help the other week on editing limits.conf - all is well again, thanks for your help. I'm currently playing around with ardour on FC7 having been used to using muse on a FC4 machine. I am trying to use the gate plugin by Steve Harris and notice some buttons next to each of the parameters. I'm trying to use the gate to shut off the surrounding ambient audio from a live recording of a bass drum within a drum kit. Could anyone explain what Manual, Play, Write and Touch means? It appears to be ignoring the gate when I use a variety of these settings - the gate isn't chopping off audio as it should, but it may be down to my complete lack of understanding as to what these parameters mean (manual, play, write and touch, that is). Many thanks in advance Rich ------=_Part_21595_6171027.1191539127931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there

Thanks for the help the other week on editing limits.conf - all is well again, thanks for your help.
I'm currently playing around with ardour on FC7 having been used to using muse on a FC4 machine. I am trying to use the gate plugin by Steve Harris and notice some buttons next to each of the parameters. I'm trying to use the gate to shut off the surrounding ambient audio from a live recording of a bass drum within a drum kit.
Could anyone explain what Manual, Play, Write and Touch means? It appears to be ignoring the gate when I use a variety of these settings - the gate isn't chopping off audio as it should, but it may be down to my complete lack of understanding as to what these parameters mean (manual, play, write and touch, that is).

Many thanks in advance
Rich


------=_Part_21595_6171027.1191539127931-- From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 4 17:46:49 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 4 16:46:49 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] updated: audicle, miniaudicle, chuck; added: sndpeek Message-ID: <1191540989.26231.10.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Some quick updates: Quick bugfix release for audicle and chuck and a new release of miniaudicle. Also added sndpeek for fc6/7 (only i386). Enjoy! -- Fernando From mysthr21 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 07:09:03 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Fri Oct 5 06:09:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Gate in Ardour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <907c05c70710050607ma525159i3b8ab60df072be95@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_16921_31785286.1191589679991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Manual, Play, Write and Touch are settings for the automations. you can create automations on the differents knobs of effects, volume, pan, .... in ardour. Write, to write automations. Touch to modify the automations only when you touch the knobs. Play, to play automations and manual to desactivate automations. I think you should find more explanations, in the ardour manual. Hope this help you, Best, Mysth-R 2007/10/5, Richard Gibson : > > Hi there > > Thanks for the help the other week on editing limits.conf - all is well > again, thanks for your help. > I'm currently playing around with ardour on FC7 having been used to using > muse on a FC4 machine. I am trying to use the gate plugin by Steve Harris > and notice some buttons next to each of the parameters. I'm trying to use > the gate to shut off the surrounding ambient audio from a live recording of > a bass drum within a drum kit. > Could anyone explain what Manual, Play, Write and Touch means? It appears > to be ignoring the gate when I use a variety of these settings - the gate > isn't chopping off audio as it should, but it may be down to my complete > lack of understanding as to what these parameters mean (manual, play, write > and touch, that is). > > Many thanks in advance > Rich > > > -- {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_16921_31785286.1191589679991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,
Manual, Play, Write and Touch are settings for the automations.
you can create automations on the differents knobs of effects, volume, pan, .... in ardour.
Write, to write automations.
Touch to modify the automations only when you touch the knobs.
Play, to play automations
and manual to desactivate automations.

I think you should find more explanations, in the ardour manual.
Hope this help you,

Best,
Mysth-R


2007/10/5, Richard Gibson <fluffy.gibson@gmail.com>:
Hi there

Thanks for the help the other week on editing limits.conf - all is well again, thanks for your help.
I'm currently playing around with ardour on FC7 having been used to using muse on a FC4 machine. I am trying to use the gate plugin by Steve Harris and notice some buttons next to each of the parameters. I'm trying to use the gate to shut off the surrounding ambient audio from a live recording of a bass drum within a drum kit.
Could anyone explain what Manual, Play, Write and Touch means? It appears to be ignoring the gate when I use a variety of these settings - the gate isn't chopping off audio as it should, but it may be down to my complete lack of understanding as to what these parameters mean (manual, play, write and touch, that is).

Many thanks in advance
Rich





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http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_16921_31785286.1191589679991-- From alexander_carot at gmx.net Fri Oct 5 10:29:01 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Oct 5 09:29:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod Message-ID: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> Hi all, I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I have to adjust or install anything ? I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED nothing happens and the device is not recognized. Can anyone help ? Thanks -- A l e x -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From mysthr21 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 10:38:00 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Fri Oct 5 09:38:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> Message-ID: <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_17485_1822216.1191602219954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, You have to install freebob. and after, you have to configure few things. please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull informations : http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities Can you post the jack error message ? cheers, Mysth-R 2007/10/5, "Alexander Car=F4t" : > > Hi all, > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I have > to adjust or install anything ? > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED noth= ing > happens and the device is not recognized. > > Can anyone help ? > > Thanks > > -- A l e x > -- > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Car=F4t > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > --=20 {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_17485_1822216.1191602219954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

You have to install freebob.
and after, you have to configure= few things.
please visit the freebob website, you should find some usef= ull informations :

http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
http://freeb= ob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints
http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration
= http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities
Can you post the jack error message ?
cheers,
Mysth-R


=
2007/10/5, "Alexander Car=F4t" &= lt;alexander_carot@gmx.net&g= t;:
Hi all,
I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering i= f I have to adjust or install anything ?

I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small= firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the= LED nothing happens and the device is not recognized.

Can anyone he= lp ?

Thanks

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http://myspace.com/aide= auditive ------=_Part_17485_1822216.1191602219954-- From alexander_carot at gmx.net Fri Oct 5 10:44:01 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Oct 5 09:44:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> Hej - ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an ALSA configuration on that ? Thanks in advance -- A l e x P.S. : yum tells me that freebob is installed already. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > Von: Mysth-R > An: "Alexander Carôt" > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > Hi, > > You have to install freebob. > and after, you have to configure few things. > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > informations > : > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > Can you post the jack error message ? > cheers, > Mysth-R > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Carôt" : > > > > Hi all, > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I > have > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED > nothing > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- A l e x > > -- > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > -- > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > http://myspace.com/aideauditive -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Oct 5 10:47:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Oct 5 09:47:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > Hej - > > ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not > jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an > ALSA configuration on that ? Currently firewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack backend, there is no ALSA support yet. -- Fernando > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > > Von: Mysth-R > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > Hi, > > > > You have to install freebob. > > and after, you have to configure few things. > > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > > informations > > : > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > > > Can you post the jack error message ? > > cheers, > > Mysth-R > > > > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Carôt" : > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I > > have > > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED > > nothing > > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > -- > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > > http://myspace.com/aideauditive > From mysthr21 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 10:54:01 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Fri Oct 5 09:54:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <907c05c70710050953o2733634r1217fe6a335088e5@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_17544_7484065.1191603203599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes, Alsa, and freebob are different and if you want to use your firepod, actually you need freebob. and you can only use freebob with Jack. cheers, Mysth-R 2007/10/5, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano : > > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Car=F4t" wrote: > > Hej - > > > > ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not > > jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an > > ALSA configuration on that ? > > Currently firewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack backend, > there is no ALSA support yet. > > -- Fernando > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > > > Von: Mysth-R > > > An: "Alexander Car=F4t" > > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You have to install freebob. > > > and after, you have to configure few things. > > > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > > > informations > > > : > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > > > > > Can you post the jack error message ? > > > cheers, > > > Mysth-R > > > > > > > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Car=F4t" : > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if = I > > > have > > > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > > > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LE= D > > > nothing > > > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > > -- > > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Car=F4t > > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > > > > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > > > http://myspace.com/aideauditive > > > > --=20 {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_17544_7484065.1191603203599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes,

Alsa, and freebob are different and if you want to use your fir= epod, actually you need freebob. and you can only use freebob with Jack.
cheers,
Mysth-R

2007/10/5, = Fernando Lopez-Lezcano < nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>= ;:
On Fri, = 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Car=F4t" wrote:
> Hej -
>
> ok I will check but one note : I simply want= to use ALSA and not
> jack. If it is only working for jack is there = a chance to base an
> ALSA configuration on that ?

Currently f= irewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack backend,
there is no ALSA support yet.

-- Fernando


> ------= -- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59= +0200
> > Von: Mysth-R < mysthr21@gmail.com>
> > An: "Alexander Car=F4t" &= lt;alexander_carot@gmx.net&g= t;
> > CC: plane= tccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu
> > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod
>
> > H= i,
> >
> > You have to install freebob.
> > and = after, you have to configure few things.
> > please visit the free= bob website, you should find some usefull
> > informations
> > :
> >
> > http://freebob.sour= ceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
> > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints
= > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration
>= ; >=20 http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Prioritie= s
> >
> > Can you post the jack error message ?
> > cheers,
> > Mysth-R
> >
> >
> &g= t; 2007/10/5, "Alexander Car=F4t" <alexander_carot@gmx.net>:
> > >
> = > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I might have to run a Firepod on my So= ny VAIO and I"m wondering if I
> > have
> > > to = adjust or install anything ?
> > >
> > > I have FC6= with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small
> > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue&= quot; flash on the LED
> > nothing
> > > happens and t= he device is not recognized.
> > >
> > > Can anyone= help ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > = > -- A l e x
> > > --
> > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander= Car=F4t
> > > Email : Al= exander@Carot.de
> > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797
> > >
> &= gt; > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de> > >
> > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt d= ie neuesten
> > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
> &g= t; > PlanetCCRMA mailing list
> > > Planet= CCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu
> > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/= mailman/listinfo/planetccrma
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > = --
> > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^}
> >
> > http://myspace.com/mysthr
> > http://myspace.com/aideauditive
>


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http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_17544_7484065.1191603203599-- From alexander_carot at gmx.net Fri Oct 5 15:22:01 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Oct 5 14:22:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try with jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it resulted in the following error. Can anyone help ? [root@localhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob jackd 0.103.0 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. SSE2 detected Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 no response Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUnits: Subunit info command failed Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not enumarate sub units Root node has no children! Root node has no children! FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bailing out cannot load driver module freebob no message buffer overruns Thanks -- A l e x -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:46:26 -0700 > Von: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > An: "\\"Alexander" Carôt" > CC: Mysth-R , planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > Hej - > > > > ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not > > jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an > > ALSA configuration on that ? > > Currently firewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack backend, > there is no ALSA support yet. > > -- Fernando > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > > > Von: Mysth-R > > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You have to install freebob. > > > and after, you have to configure few things. > > > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > > > informations > > > : > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > > > > > Can you post the jack error message ? > > > cheers, > > > Mysth-R > > > > > > > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Carôt" : > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I > > > have > > > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > > > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED > > > nothing > > > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > > -- > > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > > > > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > > > http://myspace.com/aideauditive > > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From alexander_carot at gmx.net Fri Oct 5 16:52:04 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Oct 5 15:52:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <9bd317560710051521n1bf27b97ib7ea97974315f49b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> <9bd317560710051521n1bf27b97ib7ea97974315f49b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071005225049.13870@gmx.net> Hi Peter, when I launch qjackctl it simply shows me the interface but not any accessable device. Since I'm not familiar with it could you tell me where and how extra parameter are to be set ? Thanks -- A l e x -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:21:33 -0400 > Von: "Peter Hartmann" > An: "Alexander Carôt" > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > Pretty sure you need more arguments than that. Use qjackctl, you'll be > happy. > > Peter > > On 10/5/07, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try with > jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it resulted > in the following error. Can anyone help ? > > > > [root@localhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob > > jackd 0.103.0 > > Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. > > jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > > under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details > > > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > > loading driver .. > > SSE2 detected > > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > > no response > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUnits: > Subunit info command failed > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not > enumarate sub units > > Root node has no children! > > Root node has no children! > > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > > LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bailing out > > cannot load driver module freebob > > no message buffer overruns > > > > Thanks > > > > -- A l e x > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > Datum: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:46:26 -0700 > > > Von: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > > An: "\\"Alexander" Carôt" > > > CC: Mysth-R , planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > > > Hej - > > > > > > > > ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not > > > > jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an > > > > ALSA configuration on that ? > > > > > > Currently firewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack backend, > > > there is no ALSA support yet. > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > > > > > Von: Mysth-R > > > > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > > > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > You have to install freebob. > > > > > and after, you have to configure few things. > > > > > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > > > > > informations > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > > > > > > > > > Can you post the jack error message ? > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Mysth-R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Carôt" : > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering > if I > > > > > have > > > > > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the > small > > > > > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the > LED > > > > > nothing > > > > > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > > > > > > > > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > > > > > http://myspace.com/aideauditive > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > -- > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From alexander_carot at gmx.net Fri Oct 5 16:59:01 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Fri Oct 5 15:59:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071005225049.13870@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> <9bd317560710051521n1bf27b97ib7ea97974315f49b@mail.gmail.com> <20071005225049.13870@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20071005225841.13870@gmx.net> just found out more of qjackctl but it seems to be a general problem with the device. I set the parameters and tried to connect but : Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/locale/qjackctl_en_US.UTF-8.qm any idea ? Thanks -- A l e x -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:50:49 +0200 > Von: "Alexander Carôt" > An: "Peter Hartmann" > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > Hi Peter, > > when I launch qjackctl it simply shows me the interface but not any > accessable device. Since I'm not familiar with it could you tell me where and how > extra parameter are to be set ? > > Thanks > > -- A l e x > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:21:33 -0400 > > Von: "Peter Hartmann" > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > Pretty sure you need more arguments than that. Use qjackctl, you'll be > > happy. > > > > Peter > > > > On 10/5/07, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > > OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try with > > jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it > resulted > > in the following error. Can anyone help ? > > > > > > [root@localhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob > > > jackd 0.103.0 > > > Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. > > > jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > > > under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details > > > > > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > > > loading driver .. > > > SSE2 detected > > > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > > > no response > > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUnits: > > Subunit info command failed > > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not > > enumarate sub units > > > Root node has no children! > > > Root node has no children! > > > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > > > LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bailing out > > > cannot load driver module freebob > > > no message buffer overruns > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > > Datum: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:46:26 -0700 > > > > Von: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > > > An: "\\"Alexander" Carôt" > > > > CC: Mysth-R , planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > > > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:43 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > > > > Hej - > > > > > > > > > > ok I will check but one note : I simply want to use ALSA and not > > > > > jack. If it is only working for jack is there a chance to base an > > > > > ALSA configuration on that ? > > > > > > > > Currently firewire cards under freebob/faado only have a Jack > backend, > > > > there is no ALSA support yet. > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > > > > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:36:59 +0200 > > > > > > Von: Mysth-R > > > > > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > > > > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to install freebob. > > > > > > and after, you have to configure few things. > > > > > > please visit the freebob website, you should find some usefull > > > > > > informations > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page > > > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/System_Configuration_Hints > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration > > > > > > > > http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/IRQ_Threading_and_Priorities > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you post the jack error message ? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Mysth-R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2007/10/5, "Alexander Carôt" : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m > wondering > > if I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the > > small > > > > > > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on > the > > LED > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > > > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > > > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > > > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} > > > > > > > > > > > > http://myspace.com/mysthr > > > > > > http://myspace.com/aideauditive > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > -- > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > > > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > -- > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Oct 5 17:45:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Oct 5 16:45:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1191627856.4147.47.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 23:21 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try with jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it resulted in the following error. Can anyone help ? > > [root@localhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob > jackd 0.103.0 > Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. > jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > loading driver .. > SSE2 detected > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > no response > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUnits: Subunit info command failed > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not enumarate sub units > Root node has no children! > Root node has no children! > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bailing out > cannot load driver module freebob > no message buffer overruns What do you see when you insert your firewire card in: - the output of dmesg - /var/log/messages -- Fernando From mysthr21 at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 03:05:01 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Sat Oct 6 02:05:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <1191627856.4147.47.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <907c05c70710050936u877db38ofec050ccee74771d@mail.gmail.com> <20071005164309.219520@gmx.net> <1191602786.4147.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <20071005212100.172370@gmx.net> <1191627856.4147.47.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <907c05c70710060204q66c3fec3s2c487d0f099f07db@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_18785_11485566.1191661472617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline you can download and install freebob manually. Just : ./configure and make (don't "make install") It provides you a test software, which can tell you if it recognize your firewire interface. enter in the test directory : cd /freebob/tests then execute : ./test-freebob discover Best, Mysth-R 2007/10/6, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano : > > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 23:21 +0200, "Alexander Car=F4t" wrote: > > OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try with > jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it resul= ted > in the following error. Can anyone help ? > > > > [root@localhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob > > jackd 0.103.0 > > Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. > > jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > > under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details > > > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > > loading driver .. > > SSE2 detected > > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > > no response > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUnits: > Subunit info command failed > > Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not > enumarate sub units > > Root node has no children! > > Root node has no children! > > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > > LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bailing out > > cannot load driver module freebob > > no message buffer overruns > > What do you see when you insert your firewire card in: > - the output of dmesg > - /var/log/messages > > -- Fernando > > > --=20 {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_18785_11485566.1191661472617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline you can download and install freebob manually.
Just :
./configure and= make (don't "make install")
It provides you a test softwa= re, which can tell you if it recognize your firewire interface.

ente= r in the test directory :
cd /freebob/tests

then execute :
./test-freebob discover
<= br>
Best,

Mysth-R

2007/10= /6, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano < nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>:
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 23:21 +0200, "Alexander C= ar=F4t" wrote:
> OK - so although this was not the plan I decided to give it a try = with jack and compiled my app for jack and did a jackd -d freebob ... it re= sulted in the following error. Can anyone help ?
>
> [root@loca= lhost jacktest]# jackd -d freebob
> jackd 0.103.0
> Copyright 2001-2= 005 Paul Davis and others.
> jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<= br>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>
= > JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
> loading driver ..
= > SSE2 detected
> Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1
> n= o response
> Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avdevice.cpp)[1104] enumerateSubUni= ts: Subunit info command failed
> Error (bebob_light/bebob_light_avde= vice.cpp)[96] discover: Could not enumarate sub units
> Root node has= no children!
> Root node has no children!
> FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error cre= ating virtual device
> LibFreeBoB ERR: No connections specified, bail= ing out
> cannot load driver module freebob
> no message buffer= overruns

What do you see when you insert your firewire card in:
- the out= put of dmesg
- /var/log/messages

-- Fernando





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http://myspace.com/mysthr
http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_18785_11485566.1191661472617-- From hcengar at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 09:52:00 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Sun Oct 7 08:52:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> Message-ID: <695e1a650710070850p320aaea3q17a27301a7588c62@mail.gmail.com> Alex, I had a Firepod for a few days and it worked without installing anything extra than what Planet CCRMA already provides with. Using the Firewire kernel modules from CCRMA (and not the Fedora ones), the CCRMA kernel and setting QjackCtl to use Freebob made it work. Sometimes it takes a few seconds between the moment you plug in or power up the interface and it gets discovered and configured by the kernel, then you can start Jack. Are you able to use other firewire devices in the same laptop? Cheers, Hector On 10/5/07, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > Hi all, > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I have to adjust or install anything ? > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED nothing happens and the device is not recognized. > > Can anyone help ? > > Thanks > > -- A l e x > -- > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From gangalee at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 11:21:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Gangalee) Date: Mon Oct 8 10:21:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] X broken in upgrading Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux) 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 Message-ID: <13087223.post@talk.nabble.com> After updating my ccrma (how do I find the version?) with yum update, my X is broken. Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 is one of the many Xorg.log errors. How can I fix? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/X-broken-in-upgrading-Fedora-Core-release-5-%28Bordeaux%29-2.6.20-1.2320.fc5-tf4584691.html#a13087223 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From David_J_Cox at uk.ibm.com Mon Oct 8 13:42:00 2007 From: David_J_Cox at uk.ibm.com (David J Cox) Date: Mon Oct 8 12:42:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] David J Cox is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 08/10/2007 and will not return until 10/10/2007. I am in Milan presenting at the System p Top Gun. I expect I will have email access but will not be available very much. I will check and reply to mail and voicemail when I can. From alexander_carot at gmx.net Tue Oct 9 07:33:03 2007 From: alexander_carot at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alexander_Car=F4t=22?=) Date: Tue Oct 9 06:33:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710070850p320aaea3q17a27301a7588c62@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <695e1a650710070850p320aaea3q17a27301a7588c62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071009133205.136510@gmx.net> Hi Hector, I wanted to use it for a performance I did. The people could only offer the firepod to me. Since I had the trouble I mentioned I finally went for another card and now I'm back home and the firepod not available anymore. I will try it with my RME Fireface 400 now which I never approached to use under Linux and will see what´s gonna happen. Talk to you later -- A l e x -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:50:59 -0400 > Von: "Hector Centeno" > An: "Alexander Carôt" > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > Alex, > > I had a Firepod for a few days and it worked without installing > anything extra than what Planet CCRMA already provides with. Using the > Firewire kernel modules from CCRMA (and not the Fedora ones), the > CCRMA kernel and setting QjackCtl to use Freebob made it work. > Sometimes it takes a few seconds between the moment you plug in or > power up the interface and it gets discovered and configured by the > kernel, then you can start Jack. Are you able to use other firewire > devices in the same laptop? > > Cheers, > > Hector > > > On 10/5/07, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I > have to adjust or install anything ? > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED nothing > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- A l e x > > -- > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > -- Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt Email : Alexander@Carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 phd-candidate at www.isnm.de GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Oct 9 12:07:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Oct 9 11:07:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <20071009133205.136510@gmx.net> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <695e1a650710070850p320aaea3q17a27301a7588c62@mail.gmail.com> <20071009133205.136510@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1191953185.14472.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:32 +0200, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > Hi Hector, > > I wanted to use it for a performance I did. The people could only > offer the firepod to me. Since I had the trouble I mentioned I > finally went for another card and now I'm back home and the firepod > not available anymore. > > I will try it with my RME Fireface 400 now which I never approached > to use under Linux and will see what´s gonna happen. If it is similar to the 800 it will not work AFAIK. RME does not release information about their firewire cards so drivers cannot be programmed for them. -- Fernando > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:50:59 -0400 > > Von: "Hector Centeno" > > An: "Alexander Carôt" > > CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu > > Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > > > Alex, > > > > I had a Firepod for a few days and it worked without installing > > anything extra than what Planet CCRMA already provides with. Using the > > Firewire kernel modules from CCRMA (and not the Fedora ones), the > > CCRMA kernel and setting QjackCtl to use Freebob made it work. > > Sometimes it takes a few seconds between the moment you plug in or > > power up the interface and it gets discovered and configured by the > > kernel, then you can start Jack. Are you able to use other firewire > > devices in the same laptop? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Hector > > > > > > On 10/5/07, "Alexander Carôt" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I might have to run a Firepod on my Sony VAIO and I"m wondering if I > > have to adjust or install anything ? > > > > > > I have FC6 with PlanetCCRMA installed and simply inserted the small > > firewire cable but apart from a short "red to blue" flash on the LED nothing > > happens and the device is not recognized. > > > > > > Can anyone help ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- A l e x > > > -- > > > Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Carôt > > > Email : Alexander@Carot.de > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > phd-candidate at www.isnm.de > > > > > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From mysthr21 at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:51:00 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Tue Oct 9 11:51:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod In-Reply-To: <1191953185.14472.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071005162752.29200@gmx.net> <695e1a650710070850p320aaea3q17a27301a7588c62@mail.gmail.com> <20071009133205.136510@gmx.net> <1191953185.14472.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <907c05c70710091150m7ad92711x5080aa89da640163@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_24675_27892827.1191955814297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > > If it is similar to the 800 it will not work AFAIK. RME does not release > information about their firewire cards so drivers cannot be programmed > for them. > > -- Fernando > I confirm, forget the RME. I've got one (fireface 800) -- {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_24675_27892827.1191955814297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

If it is similar to the 800 it will not work AFAIK. RME does not release
information about their firewire cards so drivers cannot be programmed
for them.

-- Fernando

I confirm, forget the RME. I've got one (fireface 800)

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http://myspace.com/mysthr
http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_24675_27892827.1191955814297-- From jsampsel at sampsel.us Tue Oct 9 16:50:02 2007 From: jsampsel at sampsel.us (Jackie Sampsel) Date: Tue Oct 9 15:50:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: FirePod In-Reply-To: <20071009190007.12481.32063.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071009190007.12481.32063.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <63860.65.28.239.112.1191970158.squirrel@www.libertyactivist.org> ditto here. i installed CCRMA FC6 on a Frankenstein AMD Duron 1.8 GHz and my firepod worked like a charm once i figured out how to start jackd at the command line...... haven't tried it yet on my toshiba FC6 CCRMA notebook yet though. thx jackie -- ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- | "If you must mount the gallows, give a | | jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman,| | and make the drop with a smile on your | | lips" | | Robert Jordan, The Wheel of Time | ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:50:59 -0400 >> Von: "Hector Centeno" >> An: "Alexander Carôt" >> CC: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu >> Betreff: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Firepod > >> Alex, >> >> I had a Firepod for a few days and it worked without installing >> anything extra than what Planet CCRMA already provides with. Using the >> Firewire kernel modules from CCRMA (and not the Fedora ones), the >> CCRMA kernel and setting QjackCtl to use Freebob made it work. >> Sometimes it takes a few seconds between the moment you plug in or >> power up the interface and it gets discovered and configured by the >> kernel, then you can start Jack. Are you able to use other firewire >> devices in the same laptop? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hector >> From cave.dnb at tiscali.fr Thu Oct 11 12:51:01 2007 From: cave.dnb at tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu Oct 11 11:51:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step Message-ID: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, and I want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, and the kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the kernel-devel package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver is unpacked, ready, and waiting in my /home/user directory. What do I do next ? Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. Nigel. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 11 14:19:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 11 13:19:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step In-Reply-To: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> References: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> Message-ID: <1192133891.27525.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:50 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora > 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, and I > want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. > > The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, and the > kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the kernel-devel > package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver is unpacked, ready, > and waiting in my /home/user directory. > > What do I do next ? > > Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. There's two approaches. One would be to build a compatible kernel module package that overrides the kernel modules of the stock kernel (that's what I'm doing with kmod-alsa-rt for the Planet CCRMA kernel). The second would be installing from source on top of the existing kernel modules. -- Fernando From cave.dnb at tiscali.fr Thu Oct 11 15:13:02 2007 From: cave.dnb at tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu Oct 11 14:13:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step In-Reply-To: <1192133891.27525.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1192133891.27525.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200710112312.25824.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Thursday 11 October 2007 22:18, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:50 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora > > 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, and > > I want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. > > > > The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, and > > the kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the > > kernel-devel package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver is > > unpacked, ready, and waiting in my /home/user directory. > > > > What do I do next ? > > > > Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. > > There's two approaches. One would be to build a compatible kernel module > package that overrides the kernel modules of the stock kernel (that's > what I'm doing with kmod-alsa-rt for the Planet CCRMA kernel). The > second would be installing from source on top of the existing kernel > modules. > > -- Fernando Ok. I've downloaded the source for alsa driver 1.0.15rc3, and want to replace the current 1.0.14 with this later version. On the alsa-user list it appeared to be a simple ./configure, make, su to root, and make install to achieve this, but surely I need to be cd'd into some directory so that the new driver is installed correctly. I'm sorry if I sound a bit clueless, but I havn't upgraded kernel modules before. I know you're very busy, but any step by step instructions to upgrade the alsa driver would be appreciated. If you havn't the time, that's fair enough. Nigel. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 11 15:51:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 11 14:51:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step In-Reply-To: <200710112312.25824.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> References: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1192133891.27525.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <200710112312.25824.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> Message-ID: <1192139429.27525.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 23:12 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2007 22:18, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:50 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora > > > 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, and > > > I want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. > > > > > > The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, and > > > the kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the > > > kernel-devel package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver is > > > unpacked, ready, and waiting in my /home/user directory. > > > > > > What do I do next ? > > > > > > Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. > > > > There's two approaches. One would be to build a compatible kernel module > > package that overrides the kernel modules of the stock kernel (that's > > what I'm doing with kmod-alsa-rt for the Planet CCRMA kernel). The > > second would be installing from source on top of the existing kernel > > modules. > > Ok. I've downloaded the source for alsa driver 1.0.15rc3, and want to replace > the current 1.0.14 with this later version. Make sure that you have installed the -devel package that corresponds to the kernel you are booting (apparently the stock fedora kernel). That should be "yum install kernel-devel". > On the alsa-user list it appeared to be a simple ./configure, make, su to > root, and make install to achieve this, but surely I need to be cd'd into > some directory so that the new driver is installed correctly. Well, it should not be necessary as the files _should_ be installed in the proper tree, which should be: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ I think you will need to tell alsa where you kernel headers are located (part of the kernel-devel package). > I'm sorry if I sound a bit clueless, but I havn't upgraded kernel modules > before. Is there a particular reason you are doing this? > I know you're very busy, but any step by step instructions to upgrade the alsa > driver would be appreciated. The problem is I can't test this myself (as you say not enough time). Try a configure and see what happens. If configure can't find the kernel source tree you will have to use an option to tell it where it is. You can do that with the "--with-kernel" option. The location will be in /usr/src/kernels/, the exact subdirectory will depends on which kernel you want to compile for (if you have more than one kernel-devel package installed you will more than one directory there). If you pass that to --with-kernel configure should be happy and then you can try a make. Make install should do the right thing. You will need to remove all alsa related kernel modules with /sbin/rmmod before retrying sound, or just reboot. And you will need to do this for each and every kernel you install (ie: things are not automagically rebuilt for newer kernels - each kernel is tied very closely to all its modules, you can't really use a module built for one kernel on another). -- Fernando From cave.dnb at tiscali.fr Fri Oct 12 10:20:12 2007 From: cave.dnb at tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri Oct 12 09:20:12 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step In-Reply-To: <1192139429.27525.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <200710112312.25824.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1192139429.27525.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200710121240.03649.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Thursday 11 October 2007 23:50, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 23:12 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Thursday 11 October 2007 22:18, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:50 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora > > > > 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, > > > > and I want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. > > > > > > > > The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, > > > > and the kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the > > > > kernel-devel package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver > > > > is unpacked, ready, and waiting in my /home/user directory. > > > > > > > > What do I do next ? > > > > > > > > Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. > > > > > > There's two approaches. One would be to build a compatible kernel > > > module package that overrides the kernel modules of the stock kernel > > > (that's what I'm doing with kmod-alsa-rt for the Planet CCRMA kernel). > > > The second would be installing from source on top of the existing > > > kernel modules. > > > > Ok. I've downloaded the source for alsa driver 1.0.15rc3, and want to > > replace the current 1.0.14 with this later version. > > Make sure that you have installed the -devel package that corresponds to > the kernel you are booting (apparently the stock fedora kernel). That > should be "yum install kernel-devel". > > > On the alsa-user list it appeared to be a simple ./configure, make, su to > > root, and make install to achieve this, but surely I need to be cd'd into > > some directory so that the new driver is installed correctly. > > Well, it should not be necessary as the files _should_ be installed in > the proper tree, which should be: > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ > > I think you will need to tell alsa where you kernel headers are located > (part of the kernel-devel package). > > > I'm sorry if I sound a bit clueless, but I havn't upgraded kernel modules > > before. > > Is there a particular reason you are doing this? Well I've never had any problems with the alsa driver, and my soundcards (audigy2, and ensoniq), but I try and help folks from time to time with sound problems, as you've helped me when I started off using planetccrma with FC1. Hda intel is a particular problem, with all it's variations. Some possible fixes are only available by upgrading the alsa driver to the latest development version, or one of the nightly hg snapshots. For example there are patches for realtek codecs included in the latest drivers, which may fix some laptop sound problems, that have very new mobo's. I don't like suggesting things that I know nothing about, so if I can have some practice at updating the driver, I'll feel more confident about suggesting it others, if there's the possibility of it maybe resolving their problem. Thanks for the suggestions on the previous post. Nigel. > -- Fernando From cave.dnb at tiscali.fr Fri Oct 12 13:56:01 2007 From: cave.dnb at tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri Oct 12 12:56:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] How to update the alsa driver step by step In-Reply-To: <1192139429.27525.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <200710112050.18623.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <200710112312.25824.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> <1192139429.27525.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200710122155.23398.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Thursday 11 October 2007 23:50, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 23:12 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Thursday 11 October 2007 22:18, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:50 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > I want to practice upgrading the alsa driver for my fedora > > > > 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686 kernel. Currently the driver version is 1.0.14, > > > > and I want to upgrade it to the 1.0.15rc3 version. > > > > > > > > The kernel running on Fedora 7 at the moment is 2.6.22.9-91.fc7-i686, > > > > and the kernel headers are installed for it. I also installed the > > > > kernel-devel package for this kernel, and the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver > > > > is unpacked, ready, and waiting in my /home/user directory. > > > > > > > > What do I do next ? > > > > > > > > Appreciate any help, as I really need to learn how to do this stuff. > > > > > > There's two approaches. One would be to build a compatible kernel > > > module package that overrides the kernel modules of the stock kernel > > > (that's what I'm doing with kmod-alsa-rt for the Planet CCRMA kernel). > > > The second would be installing from source on top of the existing > > > kernel modules. > > > > Ok. I've downloaded the source for alsa driver 1.0.15rc3, and want to > > replace the current 1.0.14 with this later version. > > Make sure that you have installed the -devel package that corresponds to > the kernel you are booting (apparently the stock fedora kernel). That > should be "yum install kernel-devel". > > > On the alsa-user list it appeared to be a simple ./configure, make, su to > > root, and make install to achieve this, but surely I need to be cd'd into > > some directory so that the new driver is installed correctly. > > Well, it should not be necessary as the files _should_ be installed in > the proper tree, which should be: > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ > > I think you will need to tell alsa where you kernel headers are located > (part of the kernel-devel package). I didn't need to do this. > > > I'm sorry if I sound a bit clueless, but I havn't upgraded kernel modules > > before. > > Is there a particular reason you are doing this? > > > I know you're very busy, but any step by step instructions to upgrade the > > alsa driver would be appreciated. > > The problem is I can't test this myself (as you say not enough time). > Try a configure and see what happens. If configure can't find the kernel > source tree you will have to use an option to tell it where it is. You > can do that with the "--with-kernel" option. The location will be > in /usr/src/kernels/, the exact subdirectory will depends on which > kernel you want to compile for (if you have more than one kernel-devel > package installed you will more than one directory there). If you pass > that to --with-kernel configure should be happy and then you can try a > make. Make install should do the right thing. You will need to remove > all alsa related kernel modules with /sbin/rmmod before retrying sound, > or just reboot. > > And you will need to do this for each and every kernel you install (ie: > things are not automagically rebuilt for newer kernels - each kernel is > tied very closely to all its modules, you can't really use a module > built for one kernel on another). > > -- Fernando Just an update since I've upgraded the alsa driver. I can't believe that this could have been so easy with Fedora 7. Latest Fedora kernel 2.6.22.9-91.fc7 installed, along with kernel-headers. Installed kernel-devel#2.6.22.9-91.fc7 (which is the only kernel development package installed). cd'd to where I'd put the 1.0.15rc3 alsa driver. ./configure, followed by make, and make install as root, resulted in no problemo. A reboot, and cat /proc/asound/version is now showing 1.0.15rc3 as the alsa driver. Thanks for your help. I didn't realise that this procedure was so easy, and just needed a bit of reassurance. Nigel. From vedran.vucic at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 08:11:01 2007 From: vedran.vucic at gmail.com (Vedran Vucic) Date: Sat Oct 13 07:11:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] rosegarden sounds Message-ID: ------=_Part_11063_23460918.1192284624066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use Audiophile 24/96 sound card which does not have memory for soundfonts. may I use samples of recorded instruments or soundfonts to be played from my hard disk instead from my sound card? Please advise veki ------=_Part_11063_23460918.1192284624066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use Audiophile 24/96 sound card which does not have memory for soundfonts. may I use samples of recorded instruments or soundfonts to be played from my hard disk instead from my sound card?

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------=_Part_11063_23460918.1192284624066-- From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Oct 13 12:15:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Oct 13 11:15:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] rosegarden sounds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1192299282.11559.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 16:10 +0200, Vedran Vucic wrote: > I use Audiophile 24/96 sound card which does not have memory for > soundfonts. may I use samples of recorded instruments or soundfonts to > be played from my hard disk instead from my sound card? There are several software synthesizers in the Planet CCRMA package collection. You could try first Qsynth, which is a front end for fluidsynth, a software soundfont player. There's one matching sound font you could use available from Planet CCRMA called "fluid-soundfont". Another option for gig files would be linuxsampler and its front end Qsampler. -- Fernando From green at redhat.com Sat Oct 13 21:43:02 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Sat Oct 13 20:43:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] rosegarden sounds In-Reply-To: <1192299282.11559.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1192299282.11559.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <47119029.5040706@redhat.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000200090506000204010208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 16:10 +0200, Vedran Vucic wrote: >> I use Audiophile 24/96 sound card which does not have memory for >> soundfonts. may I use samples of recorded instruments or soundfonts to >> be played from my hard disk instead from my sound card? > > There are several software synthesizers in the Planet CCRMA package > collection. You could try first Qsynth, which is a front end for > fluidsynth, a software soundfont player. There's one matching sound font > you could use available from Planet CCRMA called "fluid-soundfont". > Another option for gig files would be linuxsampler and its front end > Qsampler. rosegarden can host DSSI softsynths directly, so I recommend using the fluidsynth-dssi package. AG --------------000200090506000204010208 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="green.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="green.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Anthony Green n:Green;Anthony org:Red Hat, Inc. email;internet:green@redhat.com tel;cell:(650) 207-7122 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000200090506000204010208-- From joey.a" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C80F03.697E1BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I used to be actively engaged in computer music research in the late = 70's early 80's, when dedicated hardware was the only way to synthesise = computer music in real time. I am planning to get back into this area now, and would have thought = that real time synthesis should now also be possible with purely = software synthesis modules, in view of the subsequent improvements in = computer speeds. Consequently, I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough indication = of how many voices can be synthesised in real time using the now = available software, run on, say, a 1.8 GHz Celeron processor (in a new = system). Would I be correct in assuming that it is, as yet, too early to fully = exploit the potential of top of the range multi-core processors, = because the associated threading driver software has not yet been = written? (If purchasing a more expensive processor is going to make a = substantial difference to me in this application, I would, of course, do = so.) Sincerely James Harris ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C80F03.697E1BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
 
I used to be actively engaged in = computer music=20 research in the late 70's early 80's,  when dedicated hardware = was the=20 only way to synthesise computer music in real time.
 
I am planning to get back into this = area now, and=20 would have thought that real time synthesis should now also be possible = with=20 purely software synthesis modules, in view of the subsequent = improvements in=20 computer speeds.
 
Consequently, I was wondering if anyone = could give=20 me a rough indication of how many voices can be synthesised in real time = using=20 the now available software, run on, say, a 1.8 GHz Celeron processor (in = a new=20 system).
 
Would I be correct in assuming that it = is, as yet,=20 too early to fully exploit the potential  of top of the range=20 multi-core processors, because the associated threading driver software = has not=20 yet been written? (If purchasing a more expensive processor is going to = make a=20 substantial difference to me in this application, I would, of course, do = so.)
 

Sincerely
 

James Harris
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C80F03.697E1BD0-- From vedran.vucic at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 10:00:58 2007 From: vedran.vucic at gmail.com (Vedran Vucic) Date: Mon Oct 15 09:00:58 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sfark Linux Message-ID: ------=_Part_16049_14140504.1192453926802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hello, Is there any tool in Fedora Core 7 for unpacking sfark files in order to unpack sound fonts? Thanks, Vedran ------=_Part_16049_14140504.1192453926802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hello,

Is there any tool in Fedora Core 7 for unpacking sfark files in order to unpack sound fonts?

Thanks,


Vedran
------=_Part_16049_14140504.1192453926802-- From kjellh at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 15 11:20:01 2007 From: kjellh at u.washington.edu (Kjell Mikal Hansen) Date: Mon Oct 15 10:20:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] SuperCollider for fc7? Message-ID: I was curious if this package might be in the works at CCRMA and if the release would be anytime soon. Thanks and keep up the great work! From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 15 11:26:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Oct 15 10:26:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] SuperCollider for fc7? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1192469103.21520.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 00:57 -0700, Kjell Mikal Hansen wrote: > I was curious if this package might be in the works at CCRMA > and if the release would be anytime soon. It has been available for a while. "yum install supercollider" should install it. Or if you want all the additional libraries do a "yum install supercollider-world" (this is only on i386, SuperCollider does not work on x86_64 natively - actually parts of it work and others would have to be run as 32 bit apps, complicated). -- Fernando From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 15 11:32:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Oct 15 10:32:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] System Requirements For Good Performance? In-Reply-To: <002401c80efc$33e8a050$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <002401c80efc$33e8a050$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1192469496.21520.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 08:14 +0100, joey.a wrote: > Hi > > I used to be actively engaged in computer music research in the late > 70's early 80's, when dedicated hardware was the only way to > synthesise computer music in real time. > > I am planning to get back into this area now, and would have thought > that real time synthesis should now also be possible with purely > software synthesis modules, in view of the subsequent improvements in > computer speeds. > > Consequently, I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough > indication of how many voices can be synthesised in real time using > the now available software, run on, say, a 1.8 GHz Celeron processor > (in a new system). Hmmm, that would be really difficult as something as generic as "voices" has almost no meaning that can be quantified. What you would get would depend on exactly how demanding is the instrument you are rendering. You can get a lot from modern processors... enough to probably keep you happy :-) On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). > Would I be correct in assuming that it is, as yet, too early to fully > exploit the potential of top of the range multi-core processors, > because the associated threading driver software has not yet been > written? (If purchasing a more expensive processor is going to make a > substantial difference to me in this application, I would, of course, > do so.) You are partially correct. No many (if any) synthesis software can use multiple processors in real time. But I would not buy a single core processor these days. Even if your favorite dsp engine does not use more than one core, all the other stuff you need to run will be able to use the other and as a result you will get better performance overall. There are tricks you can use, of course. For example, in SuperCollider you could have two engines running and those would tend to use different cores but allocation of synthesis resources would have to be manual. -- Fernando From cave.dnb at tiscali.fr Mon Oct 15 12:01:02 2007 From: cave.dnb at tiscali.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Mon Oct 15 11:01:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sfark Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710152000.02763.cave.dnb@tiscali.fr> On Monday 15 October 2007 15:12, Vedran Vucic wrote: > hello, > > Is there any tool in Fedora Core 7 for unpacking sfark files in order to > unpack sound fonts? > > Thanks, > > > Vedran Short answer. No. Most of the sfark soundfonts available will need to be uncompressed in a Windows machine, or you can install Wine on F7, and use the windows executable available from: http://www.melodymachine.com. I have wine installed on one of my FC2 installs, and the windows executable for sfark works just fine with wine. All the best. Nigel. From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 15 16:23:02 2007 From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Mon Oct 15 15:23:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <20071015190004.30471.25715.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071015190004.30471.25715.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20071015220907.M53236@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> > On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think > that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine > oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). In the Scheme version of Snd, at 44100 KHz, I get about 180 such sines (actually, I'm calling the sin function, not interpolating some table): (with-sound (:statistics #t) (let ((gens (make-vector 180))) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i 180)) (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) (run (lambda () (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i 44100)) (let ((sum 0.0)) (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) ((= k 180)) (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) (outa i (* .01 sum) *output*))))))) ;test.snd: maxamp: 0.2935 compute time: 1.020 30% of the time is handling the loops and writing output, nearly all the rest is in the oscils, so if I were writing direct to a DAC, I'd estimate 200. More interesting to me is the same question with the fm-violin -- I think I get 53: (with-sound (:statistics #t) (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) ((= k 53)) (fm-violin 0 1 440 .01))) ;test.snd: maxamp: 0.4320 compute time: 1.000 In the Common Lisp (sbcl) clm, I get around 68: (with-sound (:srate 44100 :statistics t) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i 68)) (fm-violin 0 1 440 .01))) test.snd: Duration: 1.0000, Last begin time: 0.0000 Compute time: 0.997, Compute ratio: 1.00 OutA max amp: 0.559 (near 0.249 secs) "test.snd" and presumably the sine wave case would scale similarly. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 15 16:36:03 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Oct 15 15:36:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <20071015220907.M53236@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> References: <20071015190004.30471.25715.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <20071015220907.M53236@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <1192487754.21520.57.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 15:22 -0700, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: > > On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think > > that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine > > oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). > > In the Scheme version of Snd, at 44100 KHz, I get about 180 such > sines (actually, I'm calling the sin function, not interpolating some > table): > > (with-sound (:statistics #t) > (let ((gens (make-vector 180))) > (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) > ((= i 180)) > (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) > (run > (lambda () > (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) > ((= i 44100)) > (let ((sum 0.0)) > (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) > ((= k 180)) > (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) > (outa i (* .01 sum) *output*))))))) > > ;test.snd: > maxamp: 0.2935 > compute time: 1.020 Wow, that's impressive. 180 directly from scheme... I never tried Kjetil's realtime snd, that would (presumable) be faster? -- Fernando > 30% of the time is handling the loops and writing output, nearly all the rest > is in the oscils, so if I were writing direct to a DAC, I'd estimate 200. > More interesting to me is the same question with the fm-violin -- I > think I get 53: > > (with-sound (:statistics #t) > (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) > ((= k 53)) > (fm-violin 0 1 440 .01))) > > ;test.snd: > maxamp: 0.4320 > compute time: 1.000 > > > In the Common Lisp (sbcl) clm, I get around 68: > > (with-sound (:srate 44100 :statistics t) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i 68)) (fm-violin 0 1 440 .01))) > test.snd: > Duration: 1.0000, Last begin time: 0.0000 > Compute time: 0.997, Compute ratio: 1.00 > OutA max amp: 0.559 (near 0.249 secs) > "test.snd" > > > and presumably the sine wave case would scale similarly. From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 15 16:49:00 2007 From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Mon Oct 15 15:49:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <1192487754.21520.57.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071015190004.30471.25715.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <20071015220907.M53236@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <1192487754.21520.57.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20071015224225.M59842@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> > Wow, that's impressive. 180 directly from scheme... > I never tried Kjetil's realtime snd, that would (presumable) be faster? Come to think of it -- yes! I don't have it running here at home right now because I don't currently have all the libraries it needs. Another thing on my TODO list... From shakti at bayarea.net Tue Oct 16 01:29:01 2007 From: shakti at bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Tue Oct 16 00:29:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] System Requirements For Good Performance? In-Reply-To: <002401c80efc$33e8a050$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <002401c80efc$33e8a050$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <20071016002747.8d70f839.shakti@bayarea.net> > Consequently, I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough indication of how many voices can be synthesised in real time using the now available software, run on, say, a 1.8 GHz Celeron processor (in a new system). I kind of distrust celerons, but I've heard some great sounding realtime physical modeling of piano(many voice polyphony) done on lower end hardware. Have fun on your endeavor. Tracey. From John Bell" <1192469496.21520.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <006901c80fca$062c0de0$01a8a8c0@system7125> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" To: "joey.a" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] System Requirements For Good Performance? > On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think > that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine > oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). Sounds promising. Can I infer from this that I could potentially also execute, say, a 128 band vocoder with similar cpu loading? > But I would not buy a single core > processor these days. Even if your favorite dsp engine does not use more > than one core, all the other stuff you need to run will be able to use > the other and as a result you will get better performance overall. > > There are tricks you can use, of course. For example, in SuperCollider > you could have two engines running and those would tend to use different > cores but allocation of synthesis resources would have to be manual. Thanks a lot, Fernando. You have convinced me. Apart from anything else, these newer processors also have faster & larger caches too. This seems to confirm my gut feeling that dedicated hardware accelerators (like the basic Capybara system) are no longer needed. If I can do almost everything I want now, with a basic CPU system, I might as well pay a little more to have all the elbow room I could possibly need. During the short time taken for this Q & A, Dell prices (at least) have dropped, so I am now about ready to click on 'buy now' for a 2.33 GHz Core Duo (presumably like yours), with 2 GB RAM, half a Terrabyte of hard disk, and separate graphics card, for about the same price as a more basic system would have been a few days ago. (Unless you think still more RAM could also be a big help) The next question, of course, would be a dedicated sound card upgrade. I already have an old Audigy Platinum sound card in my (Windows 2000) server configuration, and was originally thinking of just switching this across. However, technology does tend to improve with time, and perhaps there are also now significant improvements there too? Regards James Harris From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Oct 16 10:58:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Oct 16 09:58:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] System Requirements For Good Performance? In-Reply-To: <006901c80fca$062c0de0$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <002401c80efc$33e8a050$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1192469496.21520.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <006901c80fca$062c0de0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1192553865.30988.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:56 +0100, John Bell wrote: > > On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think > > that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine > > oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). > > Sounds promising. Can I infer from this that I could potentially also > execute, say, a 128 band vocoder with similar cpu loading? I imagine that would be possible... > > But I would not buy a single core > > processor these days. Even if your favorite dsp engine does not use more > > than one core, all the other stuff you need to run will be able to use > > the other and as a result you will get better performance overall. > > > > There are tricks you can use, of course. For example, in SuperCollider > > you could have two engines running and those would tend to use different > > cores but allocation of synthesis resources would have to be manual. > > Thanks a lot, Fernando. You have convinced me. Apart from anything else, > these newer processors also have faster & larger caches too. > This seems to confirm my gut feeling that dedicated hardware accelerators > (like the basic Capybara system) are no longer needed. > If I can do almost everything I want now, with a basic CPU system, I might > as well pay a little more to have all the elbow room I could possibly need. > During the short time taken for this Q & A, Dell prices (at least) have > dropped, so I am now about ready to click on 'buy now' for a 2.33 GHz Core > Duo (presumably like yours), with 2 GB RAM, half a Terrabyte of hard disk, > and separate graphics card, for about the same price as a more basic system > would have been a few days ago. (Unless you think still more RAM could also > be a big help) Probably 2G is fine (for now :-) As for the graphics card... which one is it? Most probably you will need to run without hardware acceleration, or install a binary driver for it which is not included in the normal kernels. That is still a problem in Linux (hopefully we will see good open source drivers for ATI cards, now that ATI is part of AMD they are opening the specs but the drivers will take a while to get written). > The next question, of course, would be a dedicated sound card upgrade. I > already have an old Audigy Platinum sound card in my (Windows 2000) server > configuration, and was originally thinking of just switching this across. > However, technology does tend to improve with time, and perhaps there are > also now significant improvements there too? Hmmm, if you are happy with the performance of the card you have then keep it. We tend to use more "professional" cards. MAudio pci line is good (66/1010, etc). RME is great but expensive. Gina3D and Layla3D's are fine. Firewire and USB would not be a good choice if you want the best possible latency performance. -- Fernando From kjetil.matheussen at notam02.no Tue Oct 16 14:00:01 2007 From: kjetil.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen) Date: Tue Oct 16 13:00:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Re: sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <20071016190004.16392.63206.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071016190004.16392.63206.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: > On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 15:22 -0700, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: >>> On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think >>> that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine >>> oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). >> >> In the Scheme version of Snd, at 44100 KHz, I get about 180 such >> sines (actually, I'm calling the sin function, not interpolating some >> table): >> >> (with-sound (:statistics #t) >> (let ((gens (make-vector 180))) >> (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) >> ((= i 180)) >> (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) >> (run >> (lambda () >> (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) >> ((= i 44100)) >> (let ((sum 0.0)) >> (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) >> ((= k 180)) >> (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) >> (outa i (* .01 sum) *output*))))))) >> >> ;test.snd: >> maxamp: 0.2935 >> compute time: 1.020 > > Wow, that's impressive. 180 directly from scheme... > I never tried Kjetil's realtime snd, that would (presumable) be faster? > Just tried. And yes, its about twice as fast: (let* ((num 130) (gens (make-vector num))) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i num)) (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) (set! (rt-safety) 0) ( 0 10 (lambda () (let ((sum 0.0)) (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) ((= k num)) (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) (out (* .01 sum)))))) Here's the generated c-code for the inner loop: static void rt_gen1__3(struct RT_Globals *rt_globals) { while (!((rt_globals->k__2 == rt_globals->num__4))) { (rt_globals->sum__1 = (rt_globals->sum__1 + mus_oscil(XEN_TO_MUS_ANY (SCM_VECTOR_REF (rt_globals->gens__5, ((int) rt_globals->k__2))), 0, 0)), rt_globals->k__2 = (1 + rt_globals->k__2) ); }; } Its not quite optimal, but still I'm pretty sure most of the time is spent in mus_oscil. So I'm also pretty sure the oscillator generator in supercollider is super fast. From m.tarenskeen at zonnet.nl Tue Oct 16 15:02:01 2007 From: m.tarenskeen at zonnet.nl (Martin Tarenskeen) Date: Tue Oct 16 14:02:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sfark Linux (fwd) Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Monday 15 October 2007 15:12, Vedran Vucic wrote: >> Is there any tool in Fedora Core 7 for unpacking sfark files in order to >> unpack sound fonts? > Short answer. No. Most of the sfark soundfonts available will need to be > uncompressed in a Windows machine, or you can install Wine on F7, and use the > windows executable available from: http://www.melodymachine.com. Your short answer is not quite correct. There IS a linux commandline tool to unpack sfark compressed soundfonts. It is called sfarkxtc and can be found on the same website http://www.melodymachine.com. It can only handle SfArk V2 files though. It cannot handle the older V1 format. In that case the Windows version runs perfectly under wine indeed and can handle SfARk V1. -- Martin Tarenskeen From gangalee at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 10:34:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Gangalino) Date: Wed Oct 17 09:34:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X Message-ID: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an upgrade? Thanks, From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 17 11:02:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 17 10:02:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:33 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what > would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an > upgrade? Which version of fedora? If it is a recent one something like this should list all X server related packages: rpm -q -a | grep xorg You could verify that a package is fine (ie: its contents are the same as originally installed) if you do: rpm -V package_name Of course things like configuration files, etc, will be flagged as having some changes. What is failing? How? What error message do you see in /var/log/Xorg*log? -- Fernando From gangalee at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 12:27:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Gangalino) Date: Wed Oct 17 11:27:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1192645581.16767.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 10:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:33 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > > How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what > > would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an > > upgrade? > > Which version of fedora? I forgot how to get that version also. /proc/version shows Linux version 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 (brewbuilder@hs20-bc2-2.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 4.1.1 20070105 (Red Hat 4.1.1-51)) #1 Tue Jun 12 18:50:38 EDT 2007 I think it's still FC5. ??? > If it is a recent one something like this should list all X server > related packages: > > rpm -q -a | grep xorg shows: xorg-x11-font-utils-1.0.1-3 xorg-x11-drv-void-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.4.1.3-3.1 xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.1.5-1 xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.0.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.8.6.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.2.0-3.fc5 xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-7 xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-truetype-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.7.6.5-2.1 xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-2 xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.2.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.1.1.3-1.3 xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.0.1.2-1.2 xorg-x11-drivers-7.0-2 xorg-x11-apps-7.0-1 xorg-x11-xkb-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-base-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-Type1-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.0.4-1 xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.1.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.11.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.0.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.1.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.3.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-elo2300-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.0.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.1.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-2 xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.5.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.8.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-xdm-1.0.1-2 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.8.0-1 xorg-x11-twm-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.0.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-joystick-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.7.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-2 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 xorg-x11-filesystem-7.0-1 xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.0.2.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-2 xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-2 xorg-x11-server-Xnest-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-2.FC5.0 xorg-x11-xfs-1.0.1-4.FC5.0 > > You could verify that a package is fine (ie: its contents are the same > as originally installed) if you do: > > rpm -V package_name > > Of course things like configuration files, etc, will be flagged as > having some changes. > > What is failing? How? What error message do you see > in /var/log/Xorg*log? It's mainly complaining about: "Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 FreeFontPath: FPE "unix/:7100" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing." I've attached the entire log. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 17 12:38:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 17 11:38:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <1192645581.16767.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1192645581.16767.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1192646262.7858.23.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:26 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 10:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:33 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > > > How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what > > > would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an > > > upgrade? > > > > Which version of fedora? > > I forgot how to get that version also. > /proc/version shows Linux version 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 > (brewbuilder@hs20-bc2-2.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 4.1.1 20070105 > (Red Hat 4.1.1-51)) #1 Tue Jun 12 18:50:38 EDT 2007 > > I think it's still FC5. ??? That would be fc5. But you don't seem to be running the Planet CCRMA kernel. Are you a Planet CCRMA user? > > What is failing? How? What error message do you see > > in /var/log/Xorg*log? > > It's mainly complaining about: > > "Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0 > Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0 > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0 > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0 > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0 > Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 > FreeFontPath: FPE "unix/:7100" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing." And? What do you see? How does it fail. This may be a question for the fedora lists, not Planet CCRMA. > I've attached the entire log. Did not make it here. Those are warnings, do you see any errors? -- Fernando From gangalee at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 12:47:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Gangalino) Date: Wed Oct 17 11:47:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1192646714.16767.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-X0H77f1OAJTslc3/Tz8S Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops! Forgot the attachments... [cwa2@cali ~]$ /usr/bin/Xorg -version X Window System Version 7.0.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0 Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.9-42.0.8.ELsmp i686Red Hat, Inc. Current Operating System: Linux cali 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 #1 Tue Jun 12 18:50:38 EDT 2007 i686 Build Date: 08 April 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present [cwa2@cali ~]$ rpm -q xorg-x11-xdm xorg-x11-xdm-1.0.1-2 rpm -qa | grep xorg-x11-server xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 xorg-x11-server-Xnest-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 10:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:33 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > > How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what > > would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an > > upgrade? > > Which version of fedora? > If it is a recent one something like this should list all X server > related packages: > > rpm -q -a | grep xorg > > You could verify that a package is fine (ie: its contents are the same > as originally installed) if you do: > > rpm -V package_name > > Of course things like configuration files, etc, will be flagged as > having some changes. > > What is failing? How? What error message do you see > in /var/log/Xorg*log? > > -- Fernando > > --=-X0H77f1OAJTslc3/Tz8S Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Xorg.0.log Content-Type: text/x-log; name=Xorg.0.log; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X Window System Version 7.0.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0 Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.9-42.0.8.ELsmp i686Red Hat, Inc. Current Operating System: Linux cali 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 #1 Tue Jun 12 18:50:38 EDT 2007 i686 Build Date: 08 April 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Oct 17 13:06:58 2007 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "single head configuration" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.8 X.Org XInput driver : 0.5 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (--) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2530 card 1014,022c rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,2532 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2440 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,244b card 1014,022c rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2442 card 1014,022c rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2443 card 1014,022c rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:4: chip 8086,2444 card 1014,022c rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2445 card 1014,022c rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,002d card 10de,0047 rev 15 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 24 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:0a:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8026 rev 07 class 04,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:0a:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 07 class 09,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:0b:0: chip 14f1,1033 card 144f,150b rev 08 class 07,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf1ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xfaffffff (0x3000000) MX[B] (II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 2 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00002800 - 0x000028ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00002c00 - 0x00002cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf20fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x30000000 - 0x300fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] rev 21, Mem @ 0xf0000000/24, 0xf8000000/25 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf4000000 from 0xf7ffffff to 0xf3ffffff (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [3] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [3] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [7] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.so (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libtype1.so (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libdrm.so (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "nv" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so (II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.2.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.4 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, Unknown TNT2, Vanta, RIVA TNT2 Ultra, RIVA TNT2 Model 64, Aladdin TNT2, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 MX/MX 400, GeForce2 MX 100/200, GeForce2 Go, Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go, GeForce2 Integrated GPU, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 Ti, GeForce2 Ultra, Quadro2 Pro, GeForce4 MX 460, GeForce4 MX 440, GeForce4 MX 420, GeForce4 MX 440-SE, GeForce4 440 Go, GeForce4 420 Go, GeForce4 420 Go 32M, GeForce4 460 Go, Quadro4 550 XGL, GeForce4 440 Go 64M, Quadro NVS, Quadro4 500 GoGL, GeForce4 410 Go 16M, GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 4000, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 488 Go, Quadro4 580 XGL, Quadro4 NVS 280 SD, Quadro4 380 XGL, Quadro NVS 50 PCI, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU, GeForce3, GeForce3 Ti 200, GeForce3 Ti 500, Quadro DCC, GeForce4 Ti 4600, GeForce4 Ti 4400, GeForce4 Ti 4200, Quadro4 900 XGL, Quadro4 750 XGL, Quadro4 700 XGL, GeForce4 Ti 4800, GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X, GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE, GeForce4 4200 Go, Quadro4 700 GoGL, Quadro4 980 XGL, Quadro4 780 XGL, GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, GeForce FX 5800, Quadro FX 2000, Quadro FX 1000, GeForce FX 5600 Ultra, GeForce FX 5600, GeForce FX 5600XT, GeForce FX Go5600, GeForce FX Go5650, Quadro FX Go700, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200LE, GeForce FX Go5200, GeForce FX Go5250, GeForce FX 5500, GeForce FX 5100, GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M, Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI, Quadro FX 500/600 PCI, GeForce FX Go53xx Series, GeForce FX Go5100, GeForce FX 5900 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900, GeForce FX 5900XT, GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900ZT, Quadro FX 3000, Quadro FX 700, GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, GeForce FX 5700, GeForce FX 5700LE, GeForce FX 5700VE, GeForce FX Go5700, GeForce FX Go5700, Quadro FX Go1000, Quadro FX 1100, GeForce 6800 Ultra, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800 XT, Quadro FX 4000, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce Go 6800, GeForce Go 6800 Ultra, Quadro FX Go1400, Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI, Quadro FX 1400, GeForce 6600 GT, GeForce 6600, GeForce 6600 LE, GeForce 6600 VE, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce 6610 XL, GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE, GeForce 6700 XL, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce Go 6600 GT, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 540, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6500, GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200 LE, GeForce Go 6200, Quadro NVS 285, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce Go 6200, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce 6250, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6200 A-LE, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GT, GeForce 7800 GS, GeForce 7800 SLI, GeForce Go 7800, GeForce Go 7800 GTX, Quadro FX 4500, GeForce 7300 LE, GeForce 7300 SE, GeForce Go 7200, GeForce Go 7300, GeForce Go 7400, GeForce Go 7400 GS, Quadro NVS 110M, Quadro NVS 120M, Quadro FX 350M, GeForce 7500 LE, Quadro FX 350, GeForce 7300 GS, GeForce 7600 GT, GeForce 7600 GS, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce 7600 LE, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce Go 7700, GeForce Go 7600, GeForce Go 7600 GT, Quadro NVS 300M, GeForce Go 7900 SE, Quadro FX 550M, Quadro FX 560, GeForce 7900 GTX, GeForce 7900 GT, GeForce 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7900 GTX, Quadro FX 2500M, Quadro FX 1500M, Quadro FX 5500, Quadro FX 3500, Quadro FX 1500, Quadro FX 4500 X2, GeForce 6150, GeForce 6150 LE, GeForce 6100, GeForce Go 6150, GeForce Go 6100 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset RIVA TNT2 Model 64 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [7] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [7] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [9] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [10] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [11] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [22] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [23] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] [24] 0 0 0xfa0003b0 - 0xfa0003bb (0xc) IS[B] [25] 0 0 0xfa0003c0 - 0xfa0003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (II) NV(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (--) NV(0): Chipset: "RIVA TNT2 Model 64" (**) NV(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) NV(0): RGB weight 565 (==) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (==) NV(0): Using HW cursor (--) NV(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF8000000 (--) NV(0): MMIO registers at 0xF0000000 (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libi2c.so (II) Module i2c: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libddc.so (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) NV(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A... (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed. (--) NV(0): DDC detected a CRT: (II) NV(0): Manufacturer: NEC Model: 7919 Serial#: 0 (II) NV(0): Year: 1999 Week: 25 (II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.1 (II) NV(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V (II) NV(0): Sync: Separate Composite SyncOnGreen (II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: H-Size may change, V-Size may change (II) NV(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display (II) NV(0): redX: 0.575 redY: 0.380 greenX: 0.350 greenY: 0.550 (II) NV(0): blueX: 0.145 blueY: 0.085 whiteX: 0.300 whiteY: 0.355 (II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) NV(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) NV(0): 720x400@88Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@67Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@72Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@56Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@72Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) NV(0): 832x624@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@70Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1280x1024@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1152x870@75Hz (II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 608 vsize 608 refresh: 119 vid: 15149 (II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 896 vsize 896 refresh: 61 vid: 337 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 78.8 MHz Image Size: 513 x 386 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1040 h_sync_end 1136 h_blank_end 1312 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 800 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 49.5 MHz Image Size: 513 x 386 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 800 h_sync: 816 h_sync_end 896 h_blank_end 1056 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 600 v_sync: 601 v_sync_end 604 v_blanking: 625 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 85 Hz, H min: 15 H max: 60 kHz, PixClock max 80 MHz (II) NV(0): Monitor name: NEC LT140 (II) NV(0): Using CRT on CRTC 0 (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kBytes (==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (WW) NV(0): config file hsync range 30-70kHz not within DDC hsync ranges. (WW) NV(0): config file vrefresh range 50-160Hz not within DDC vrefresh ranges. (II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz (II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-160.00 Hz (II) NV(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 350.00 MHz (WW) (1024x768,Monitor0) mode clock 94.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 108MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x960,Monitor0) mode clock 108MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x960,Monitor0) mode clock 148.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1280x1024,Monitor0) mode clock 108MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x1024,Monitor0) mode clock 135MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1280x1024,Monitor0) mode clock 157.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (800x600,Monitor0) mode clock 81MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 175.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (800x600,Monitor0) mode clock 87.75MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 189MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (800x600,Monitor0) mode clock 94.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 202.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (800x600,Monitor0) mode clock 101.25MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 229.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (800x600,Monitor0) mode clock 114.75MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1792x1344,Monitor0) mode clock 204.8MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (WW) (896x672,Monitor0) mode clock 102.4MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1792x1344,Monitor0) mode clock 261MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (WW) (896x672,Monitor0) mode clock 130.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1856x1392,Monitor0) mode clock 218.3MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (WW) (928x696,Monitor0) mode clock 109.15MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1856x1392,Monitor0) mode clock 288MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (WW) (928x696,Monitor0) mode clock 144MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1440,Monitor0) mode clock 234MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x720,Monitor0) mode clock 117MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1440,Monitor0) mode clock 297MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x720,Monitor0) mode clock 148.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 121.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 122MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 151MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 155.8MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 184MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (WW) (700x525,Monitor0) mode clock 92MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 230MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x600,Monitor0) mode clock 115MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1440,Monitor0) mode clock 341.35MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x720,Monitor0) mode clock 170.675MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (WW) (2048x1536,Monitor0) mode clock 266.95MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1024x768,Monitor0) mode clock 133.475MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (WW) (2048x1536,Monitor0) mode clock 340.48MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1024x768,Monitor0) mode clock 170.24MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) (1024x768,Monitor0) mode clock 194.02MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 81.62MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 96.77MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 104.99MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1152x864,Monitor0) mode clock 119.65MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 145.06MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 179.26MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (WW) (700x525,Monitor0) mode clock 89.63MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 83.46MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 98.89MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 107.21MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 123.38MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1680x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 147.14MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1680x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 173.83MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (hsync out of range) (WW) (840x525,Monitor0) mode clock 86.915MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "840x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1680x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 188.07MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (hsync out of range) (WW) (840x525,Monitor0) mode clock 94.035MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "840x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1680x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 214.51MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (hsync out of range) (WW) (840x525,Monitor0) mode clock 107.255MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "840x525" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1280x720,Monitor0) mode clock 89.04MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x720,Monitor0) mode clock 95.65MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x720,Monitor0) mode clock 110.01MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x768,Monitor0) mode clock 80.14MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x768,Monitor0) mode clock 94.98MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x768,Monitor0) mode clock 102.98MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1280x768,Monitor0) mode clock 118.53MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (WW) (1920x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 193.16MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x600,Monitor0) mode clock 96.58MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 228.02MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x600,Monitor0) mode clock 114.01MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 246.59MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x600,Monitor0) mode clock 123.295MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1920x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 282.74MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (WW) (960x600,Monitor0) mode clock 141.37MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2560x1600" (width requires unsupported line pitch) (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 174.08MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2560x1600" (width requires unsupported line pitch) (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 205.13MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2560x1600" (width requires unsupported line pitch) (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 221.44MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2560x1600" (width requires unsupported line pitch) (WW) (1280x800,Monitor0) mode clock 253.615MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1024,Monitor0) mode clock 103.125MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x768" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x720" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x720" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x720" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x720" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (width too large for virtual size) (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 44.9 MHz, 35.5 kHz, 86.9 Hz (I) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 44.90 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "840x525": 73.6 MHz, 65.2 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "840x525" 73.57 840 892 984 1128 525 525 527 543 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "848x480": 47.4 MHz, 42.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "848x480" 47.39 848 888 976 1104 480 481 484 505 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "848x480": 41.0 MHz, 37.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "848x480" 40.96 848 880 968 1088 480 481 484 502 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "848x480": 37.5 MHz, 35.0 kHz, 70.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "848x480" 37.52 848 872 960 1072 480 481 484 500 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "848x480": 31.5 MHz, 29.8 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "848x480" 31.49 848 864 952 1056 480 481 484 497 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "700x525": 61.0 MHz, 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "700x525" 61.00 700 744 820 940 525 526 532 541 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x512" 54.00 640 664 720 844 512 512 514 533 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 54.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480" 54.00 640 688 744 900 480 480 482 500 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "720x400": 35.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "720x400" 35.50 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x400" 31.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x400": 53.6 MHz, 62.6 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x400" 53.60 640 680 748 856 400 400 402 417 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x400": 49.4 MHz, 58.3 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x400" 49.45 640 676 744 848 400 400 402 416 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x400": 41.7 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x400" 41.73 640 672 740 840 400 400 402 414 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432" 54.00 576 608 672 800 432 432 434 450 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x432": 52.5 MHz, 67.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432" 52.49 576 612 676 776 432 432 434 451 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x432": 48.4 MHz, 63.0 kHz, 70.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432" 48.38 576 612 672 768 432 432 434 450 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x432": 40.8 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432" 40.81 576 608 668 760 432 432 434 447 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x384": 59.3 MHz, 68.6 kHz, 85.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x384" 59.27 640 684 752 864 384 384 386 403 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x384": 51.5 MHz, 60.2 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x384" 51.49 640 680 748 856 384 384 386 401 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x384": 47.5 MHz, 56.0 kHz, 70.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x384" 47.49 640 676 744 848 384 384 386 400 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x384": 40.1 MHz, 47.7 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x384" 40.07 640 672 740 840 384 384 386 397 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x360": 55.0 MHz, 64.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x360" 55.01 640 680 748 856 360 360 362 378 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x360": 47.8 MHz, 56.4 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x360" 47.83 640 676 744 848 360 360 362 376 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x360": 44.5 MHz, 52.5 kHz, 70.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x360" 44.52 640 676 744 848 360 360 362 375 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x360": 37.2 MHz, 44.8 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x360" 37.24 640 668 736 832 360 360 362 373 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x350": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x350" 31.50 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x384": 32.5 MHz, 44.2 kHz, 54.8 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x384" 32.50 576 589 657 736 384 385 388 403 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 47.2 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384" 47.25 512 536 584 688 384 384 386 404 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384" 39.40 512 520 568 656 384 384 386 400 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384" 37.50 512 524 592 664 384 385 388 403 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384" 32.50 512 524 592 672 384 385 388 403 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 22.4 MHz, 35.5 kHz, 86.6 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384" 22.45 512 516 604 632 384 384 388 409 interlace doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.7 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "416x312" 28.64 416 432 464 576 312 312 314 333 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 28.1 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300" 28.15 400 416 448 524 300 300 302 315 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 24.8 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300" 24.75 400 408 448 528 300 300 302 312 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300" 25.00 400 428 488 520 300 318 321 333 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300" 20.00 400 420 484 528 300 300 302 314 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 18.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300" 18.00 400 412 448 512 300 300 301 312 doublescan +hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "424x240": 23.7 MHz, 42.9 kHz, 85.2 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "424x240" 23.70 424 444 488 552 240 240 242 252 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "424x240": 20.5 MHz, 37.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "424x240" 20.48 424 440 484 544 240 240 242 251 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "424x240": 18.8 MHz, 35.0 kHz, 70.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "424x240" 18.76 424 436 480 536 240 240 242 250 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "424x240": 15.7 MHz, 29.8 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "424x240" 15.74 424 432 476 528 240 240 242 248 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x240": 18.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.2 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240" 18.00 320 348 376 416 240 240 242 254 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240" 15.75 320 328 360 420 240 240 242 250 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240" 15.75 320 332 352 416 240 244 245 260 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240" 12.60 320 328 376 400 240 245 246 262 doublescan -hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "360x200": 17.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "360x200" 17.75 360 378 414 468 200 200 202 223 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x200": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x200" 15.75 320 336 368 416 200 200 202 222 doublescan -hsync +vsync (**) NV(0): Default mode "320x175": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x175" 15.75 320 336 368 416 175 191 192 222 doublescan +hsync -vsync (**) NV(0): Display dimensions: (320, 240) mm (**) NV(0): DPI set to (81, 81) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libramdac.so (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] [1] 0 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [3] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xf2000000 - 0xf200ffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xf2010000 - 0xf201007f (0x80) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0xf4000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O [9] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf0ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [11] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [12] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [13] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x000020a8 - 0x000020af (0x8) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020a7 (0x8) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x0000209f (0x20) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000183f (0x40) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B] [22] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B] [23] -1 0 0x00001890 - 0x0000189f (0x10) IX[B] [24] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B] [25] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x0000188f (0x10) IX[B] [26] 0 0 0xfa0003b0 - 0xfa0003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [27] 0 0 0xfa0003c0 - 0xfa0003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (II) NV(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 16 512x512 slots (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) Option "dpms" (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "IMPS/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" (**) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 9 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: Core Keyboard (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0 Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 FreeFontPath: FPE "unix/:7100" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. --=-X0H77f1OAJTslc3/Tz8S Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xorg.txt Content-Type: text/plain; name=xorg.txt; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xorg-x11-font-utils-1.0.1-3 xorg-x11-drv-void-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.4.1.3-3.1 xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.1.5-1 xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.0.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.8.6.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.2.0-3.fc5 xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-7 xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-truetype-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.7.6.5-2.1 xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-2 xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.2.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.1.1.3-1.3 xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.0.1.2-1.2 xorg-x11-drivers-7.0-2 xorg-x11-apps-7.0-1 xorg-x11-xkb-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-base-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-Type1-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.0.4-1 xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.1.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.11.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.0.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.1.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.3.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-elo2300-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.0.1.3-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.1.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-2 xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.5.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.8.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-xdm-1.0.1-2 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.8.0-1 xorg-x11-twm-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-utils-1.0.1-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.0.1.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-joystick-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.7.1.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-2 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 xorg-x11-filesystem-7.0-1 xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.0-3 xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.0.2.3-1.2 xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.0.0.5-1.1 xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-2 xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-2 xorg-x11-server-Xnest-1.0.1-9.fc5.7 xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-2.FC5.0 xorg-x11-xfs-1.0.1-4.FC5.0 --=-X0H77f1OAJTslc3/Tz8S-- From gangalee at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 12:52:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Gangalino) Date: Wed Oct 17 11:52:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <1192646262.7858.23.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1192638814.16767.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1192640506.7858.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1192645581.16767.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1192646262.7858.23.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1192646890.16767.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:37 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:26 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 10:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 11:33 -0500, Gangalino wrote: > > > > How do I find out which particular version of X is installed and what > > > > would be a good course to take to repair a broken X server after an > > > > upgrade? > > > > > > Which version of fedora? > > > > I forgot how to get that version also. > > /proc/version shows Linux version 2.6.20-1.2320.fc5 > > (brewbuilder@hs20-bc2-2.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 4.1.1 20070105 > > (Red Hat 4.1.1-51)) #1 Tue Jun 12 18:50:38 EDT 2007 > > > > I think it's still FC5. ??? > > That would be fc5. But you don't seem to be running the Planet CCRMA > kernel. Are you a Planet CCRMA user? Yes, of course! It started failing after yum upgrade or update, it's been a while now, so I forget which one. > > > > What is failing? How? What error message do you see > > > in /var/log/Xorg*log? > > > > It's mainly complaining about: > > > > "Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0 > > Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0 > > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0 > > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0 > > Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0 > > Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0 > > FreeFontPath: FPE "unix/:7100" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing." > > And? What do you see? How does it fail. > > This may be a question for the fedora lists, not Planet CCRMA. > It fails after "startx" the screen hangs on a blank blue screen, no icons or applications show up. So I try to restart it by "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" and that's when I see the errors on the console. > > I've attached the entire log. > > Did not make it here. > Those are warnings, do you see any errors? > -- Fernando > > From David_J_Cox at uk.ibm.com Wed Oct 17 13:05:05 2007 From: David_J_Cox at uk.ibm.com (David J Cox) Date: Wed Oct 17 12:05:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] David J Cox is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 12/10/2007 and will not return until 29/10/2007. I will be in India, 5.5 hours time +GMT no guarantee of connectivity or time to respond to email. Will make best effort. From pellgill at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 13:45:03 2007 From: pellgill at gmail.com (Gilles Pelletier) Date: Wed Oct 17 12:45:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card control Message-ID: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> I have just installed fedora 7 and want to record with audacity. However, my sblive sound card doesn't seem to work properly. I have gone to my trusted planet repository for gamix or qamix, but it doesn't seem to exist for fedora 7. I have tried alsamixer, but although I can increase or decrease the different values, I can't turn them on or off. I have tried tab and enter. What to do? -- Gilles - Who (or what) is Macduff? From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 17 14:20:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 17 13:20:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card control In-Reply-To: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192652339.7858.37.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:43 -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > I have just installed fedora 7 and want to record with audacity. > However, my sblive sound card doesn't seem to work properly. > I have gone to my trusted planet repository for gamix or qamix, but it > doesn't seem to exist for fedora 7. > I have tried alsamixer, but although I can increase or decrease the > different values, I can't turn them on or off. I have tried tab and > enter. Toggle for mute is "m" AFAIK..., "man alsamixer" for all details. -- Fernando From pellgill at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:20:25 2007 From: pellgill at gmail.com (Gilles Pelletier) Date: Wed Oct 17 13:20:25 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sound card control In-Reply-To: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <618f96c80710171319vaae7e8at4dbea0b8c32b1bf7@mail.gmail.com> I went for a walk and when I came back I consulted the alsamixer wiki. (Yeah, I know, RTFM) If I can't work it out I will try you again. Of course, gamix and qamix were very useful, especially qamix. Why did they drop out of planet ccrma? On 10/17/07, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > I have just installed fedora 7 and want to record with audacity. > However, my sblive sound card doesn't seem to work properly. > I have gone to my trusted planet repository for gamix or qamix, but it > doesn't seem to exist for fedora 7. > I have tried alsamixer, but although I can increase or decrease the > different values, I can't turn them on or off. I have tried tab and > enter. > What to do? > > -- > Gilles > - Who (or what) is Macduff? > -- Gilles - Who (or what) is Macduff? From pellgill at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:57:01 2007 From: pellgill at gmail.com (Gilles Pelletier) Date: Wed Oct 17 13:57:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sound card control In-Reply-To: <618f96c80710171319vaae7e8at4dbea0b8c32b1bf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> <618f96c80710171319vaae7e8at4dbea0b8c32b1bf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <618f96c80710171356y2b7c9a05u3b9f7a2936262282@mail.gmail.com> Here I am again. With alsacontrol, I got sound from my line-in to my monitors. So my sound card transfers sound in and out. I can't record with audacity. (with fc6 I could.) I tried starting jack with qjackctl, then running the audio into jamin to see if there was any activity: nothing. Jack starts ok. One x-run. Tried arecord, with the following results: arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM copy arecord: main:545: audio open error: No such file or directory I don't really understand the output. Can you give me an idea of what to do next? On 10/17/07, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > I went for a walk and when I came back I consulted the alsamixer wiki. > (Yeah, I know, RTFM) > If I can't work it out I will try you again. > Of course, gamix and qamix were very useful, especially qamix. Why did > they drop out of planet ccrma? > > On 10/17/07, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > > I have just installed fedora 7 and want to record with audacity. > > However, my sblive sound card doesn't seem to work properly. > > I have gone to my trusted planet repository for gamix or qamix, but it > > doesn't seem to exist for fedora 7. > > I have tried alsamixer, but although I can increase or decrease the > > different values, I can't turn them on or off. I have tried tab and > > enter. > > What to do? > > > > -- > > Gilles > > - Who (or what) is Macduff? > > > > > -- > Gilles > - Who (or what) is Macduff? > -- Gilles - Who (or what) is Macduff? From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 17 20:16:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 17 19:16:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sound card control In-Reply-To: <618f96c80710171319vaae7e8at4dbea0b8c32b1bf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <618f96c80710171243p6d52ba6escc1c072ce56f23f2@mail.gmail.com> <618f96c80710171319vaae7e8at4dbea0b8c32b1bf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192673722.7858.55.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:19 -0400, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > I went for a walk and when I came back I consulted the alsamixer wiki. > (Yeah, I know, RTFM) > If I can't work it out I will try you again. > Of course, gamix and qamix were very useful, especially qamix. Why did > they drop out of planet ccrma? Gamix was having problems, I think it was segfaulting when quitting or something similar (no time to patch it or anything). Qamix I should look at again, I think it is working fine. -- Fernando > On 10/17/07, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > > I have just installed fedora 7 and want to record with audacity. > > However, my sblive sound card doesn't seem to work properly. > > I have gone to my trusted planet repository for gamix or qamix, but it > > doesn't seem to exist for fedora 7. > > I have tried alsamixer, but although I can increase or decrease the > > different values, I can't turn them on or off. I have tried tab and > > enter. > > What to do? From hcengar at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 21:13:00 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Wed Oct 17 20:13:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider GUI Message-ID: <695e1a650710172012r6627dd84s9112cbca685633ca@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I've been exploring Supercollider lately and I was wondering if the GUI aspect is working on Linux. I read here http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/591 that it is not implemented yet but I don't know if this is outdated information. I tried some of the examples inside /usr/share/SuperCollider/Help/GUI but I just got errors... I'm quite new to it so I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing (I was just cutting and pasting code and trying to run it). I've tried other code non-GUI related and SC seems to work fine. Basically I'm interested in the possibility of using SC with a GUI to display controllers (sliders, knobs, XY, etc). Thanks! Hector From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 18 10:53:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 18 09:53:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider GUI In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710172012r6627dd84s9112cbca685633ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650710172012r6627dd84s9112cbca685633ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192726336.12964.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 23:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hello, > > I've been exploring Supercollider lately and I was wondering if the > GUI aspect is working on Linux. I read here > http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/591 that it is not > implemented yet but I don't know if this is outdated information. I > tried some of the examples inside /usr/share/SuperCollider/Help/GUI > but I just got errors... I'm quite new to it so I'm not sure if I'm > doing the right thing (I was just cutting and pasting code and trying > to run it). I've tried other code non-GUI related and SC seems to work > fine. Basically I'm interested in the possibility of using SC with a > GUI to display controllers (sliders, knobs, XY, etc). Yes, it is implemented. Look at SwingOSC as the solution, it is a java based server that takes care of doing gui things for you and the latest versions of SC have a much better integration than older ones. You need to install Java - the Sun version, I think - for it to work, I can't add that to Planet CCRMA because the license does not allow me to redistribute it. The Planet CCRMA package is supercollider-swingosc, I think (you get everything I have if you install supercollider-world). -- Fernando From hcengar at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 12:07:02 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Thu Oct 18 11:07:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider GUI In-Reply-To: <1192726336.12964.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650710172012r6627dd84s9112cbca685633ca@mail.gmail.com> <1192726336.12964.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650710181106j7ce75daaoa95516645a79014d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Fernando, I seem to have everything already installed Supercollider related from CCRMA. I also found that SCUM is for GUI programing, which one would you recomend? SCUM or SwingOSC? Cheers, Hector On 10/18/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 23:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've been exploring Supercollider lately and I was wondering if the > > GUI aspect is working on Linux. I read here > > http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/591 that it is not > > implemented yet but I don't know if this is outdated information. I > > tried some of the examples inside /usr/share/SuperCollider/Help/GUI > > but I just got errors... I'm quite new to it so I'm not sure if I'm > > doing the right thing (I was just cutting and pasting code and trying > > to run it). I've tried other code non-GUI related and SC seems to work > > fine. Basically I'm interested in the possibility of using SC with a > > GUI to display controllers (sliders, knobs, XY, etc). > > Yes, it is implemented. Look at SwingOSC as the solution, it is a java > based server that takes care of doing gui things for you and the latest > versions of SC have a much better integration than older ones. You need > to install Java - the Sun version, I think - for it to work, I can't add > that to Planet CCRMA because the license does not allow me to > redistribute it. The Planet CCRMA package is supercollider-swingosc, I > think (you get everything I have if you install supercollider-world). > > -- Fernando > > > From vedran.vucic at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 12:16:00 2007 From: vedran.vucic at gmail.com (Vedran Vucic) Date: Thu Oct 18 11:16:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] PlanetCCRMA in music school Message-ID: ------=_Part_2009_5651812.1192731299574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am taking this opportunity to inform you that Linux Center in Belgrade, Serbia installed in high music school in city Novi Sad (north from Belgrade) Fedora Core7 on 4 machines and that they use Planet CCRMA in classes of informatics in high music school. Enthusiastic effort of Linux Center and teacher of informatics is a pioneering work in introducing free software in music schools. If anyone does have similar experience please feel free to contact me. One of results of the work in music school will be based on authoring comprehensive manual that is aimed to help and encourage other teachers of informatics in music schools to use free software, presumably Fedora Core and Planet CCRMA. With best wishes, Vedran Vucic ------=_Part_2009_5651812.1192731299574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am taking this opportunity to inform you that Linux Center in Belgrade, Serbia installed in high music school in city Novi Sad (north from Belgrade) Fedora Core7 on 4 machines and that they use Planet CCRMA in classes of informatics in high music school.
Enthusiastic effort of Linux Center and teacher of informatics is a pioneering work in introducing free software in music schools.
If anyone does have similar experience please feel free to contact me.
One of results of the work in music school will be based on authoring comprehensive manual that is aimed to help and encourage other teachers of informatics in music schools to use free software, presumably Fedora Core and Planet CCRMA.


With best wishes,


Vedran Vucic

------=_Part_2009_5651812.1192731299574-- From jsegel at magneticmotorworks.com Thu Oct 18 14:41:02 2007 From: jsegel at magneticmotorworks.com (Jonathan Segel) Date: Thu Oct 18 13:41:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: supercollider GUI In-Reply-To: <20071018190004.23120.66883.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071018190004.23120.66883.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <62F2D07F-6948-4566-8484-A48993D310E4@magneticmotorworks.com> hi, i've been working with supercollider on linux since it was open- sourced (sc3) at the same time as working with it in Mac OS X. in linux i had tried various attempts at GUIs and settled on SCUM (also a server system) but i have to admit the SwingOSC version looks like it may be better. i haven't implemented it yet, but it looks like it is basically the same as the OS X GUI system (which is wider ranging than SCUM) and the code is basically transferable. i haven't crossed over to SwingOSC in linux yet as i don't relsih the idea of rewriting all those patches, but i'm gonna have to do it one of these days. in other words, i recommend starting with the SwingOSC system off the bat!.. On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:00 PM, planetccrma-request@ccrma.Stanford.EDU wrote: > > I seem to have everything already installed Supercollider related from > CCRMA. I also found that SCUM is for GUI programing, which one would > you recomend? SCUM or SwingOSC? > > Cheers, > > Hector > > On 10/18/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 23:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've been exploring Supercollider lately and I was wondering if the >>> GUI aspect is working on Linux. I read here >>> http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/591 that it is not >>> implemented yet but I don't know if this is outdated information. I >>> tried some of the examples inside /usr/share/SuperCollider/Help/GUI >>> but I just got errors... I'm quite new to it so I'm not sure if I'm >>> doing the right thing (I was just cutting and pasting code and >>> trying >>> to run it). I've tried other code non-GUI related and SC seems to >>> work >>> fine. Basically I'm interested in the possibility of using SC with a >>> GUI to display controllers (sliders, knobs, XY, etc). >> >> Yes, it is implemented. Look at SwingOSC as the solution, it is a >> java >> based server that takes care of doing gui things for you and the >> latest >> versions of SC have a much better integration than older ones. You >> need >> to install Java - the Sun version, I think - for it to work, I >> can't add >> that to Planet CCRMA because the license does not allow me to >> redistribute it. The Planet CCRMA package is supercollider- >> swingosc, I >> think (you get everything I have if you install supercollider-world). ____________________________________________________ Jonathan Segel 4014 Brookdale Ave. Oakland, CA 94619 jsegel-magneticmotorworks.com <-----> magsatellite-yahoo.com From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 18 14:55:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 18 13:55:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider GUI In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710181106j7ce75daaoa95516645a79014d@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650710172012r6627dd84s9112cbca685633ca@mail.gmail.com> <1192726336.12964.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650710181106j7ce75daaoa95516645a79014d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192740846.12964.28.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 14:06 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Thanks Fernando, > > I seem to have everything already installed Supercollider related from > CCRMA. I also found that SCUM is for GUI programing, which one would > you recomend? SCUM or SwingOSC? AFAIK SwingOSC. That one is (almost?) completely integrated into the GUI class, so you can select to use either Cocoa on an OSX machine or SwingOSC on a Linux machine and supposedly everything works :-) -- Fernando > On 10/18/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 23:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've been exploring Supercollider lately and I was wondering if the > > > GUI aspect is working on Linux. I read here > > > http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/591 that it is not > > > implemented yet but I don't know if this is outdated information. I > > > tried some of the examples inside /usr/share/SuperCollider/Help/GUI > > > but I just got errors... I'm quite new to it so I'm not sure if I'm > > > doing the right thing (I was just cutting and pasting code and trying > > > to run it). I've tried other code non-GUI related and SC seems to work > > > fine. Basically I'm interested in the possibility of using SC with a > > > GUI to display controllers (sliders, knobs, XY, etc). > > > > Yes, it is implemented. Look at SwingOSC as the solution, it is a java > > based server that takes care of doing gui things for you and the latest > > versions of SC have a much better integration than older ones. You need > > to install Java - the Sun version, I think - for it to work, I can't add > > that to Planet CCRMA because the license does not allow me to > > redistribute it. The Planet CCRMA package is supercollider-swingosc, I > > think (you get everything I have if you install supercollider-world). From joey.a" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C811CB.B6098690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess the obvious question here, to both Kjetil S. Matheussen and Bill = Schottstaedt, is "Which processor and clock speed are you using?" Although I don't yet understand the syntax you are all using, I don't = think the=20 44100 KHz referred to below, has anything to do with the above, which = will largely dictate how well any given software is going to perform. Also, while I am still awaiting the machinery, any advice on where I = should start for getting to grips with this syntax? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:41:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kjetil S. Matheussen" To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU cc: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU, bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Re: sine waves in real time Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: > On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 15:22 -0700, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: >>> On a very recent Intel laptop running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think >>> that's the speed), SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine >>> oscillators with a (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores). >> >> In the Scheme version of Snd, at 44100 KHz, I get about 180 such >> sines (actually, I'm calling the sin function, not interpolating some >> table): >> >> (with-sound (:statistics #t) >> (let ((gens (make-vector 180))) >> (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) >> ((=3D i 180)) >> (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 = pi))))) >> (run >> (lambda () >> (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) >> ((=3D i 44100)) >> (let ((sum 0.0)) >> (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) >> ((=3D k 180)) >> (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) >> (outa i (* .01 sum) *output*))))))) >> >> ;test.snd: >> maxamp: 0.2935 >> compute time: 1.020 > > Wow, that's impressive. 180 directly from scheme... > I never tried Kjetil's realtime snd, that would (presumable) be = faster? > Just tried. And yes, its about twice as fast: (let* ((num 130) (gens (make-vector num))) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((=3D i num)) (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) (set! (rt-safety) 0) ( 0 10 (lambda () (let ((sum 0.0)) (do ((k 0 (1+ k))) ((=3D k num)) (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k))))) (out (* .01 sum)))))) Here's the generated c-code for the inner loop: static void rt_gen1__3(struct RT_Globals *rt_globals) { while (!((rt_globals->k__2 =3D=3D rt_globals->num__4))) { (rt_globals->sum__1 =3D (rt_globals->sum__1 + mus_oscil(XEN_TO_MUS_ANY (SCM_VECTOR_REF (rt_globals->gens__5, ((int) rt_globals->k__2))), 0, 0)), rt_globals->k__2 =3D (1 + rt_globals->k__2) ); }; } Its not quite optimal, but still I'm pretty sure most of the time is spent in mus_oscil. So I'm also pretty sure the oscillator generator in supercollider is = super=20 fast. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C811CB.B6098690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I guess the obvious question here, to both Kjetil S. = Matheussen and=20 Bill Schottstaedt, is "Which processor and clock speed are you=20 using?"
 
Although I don't yet understand the syntax you are all using, I = don't think=20 the
44100 KHz referred to below, has anything to do with the = above, which=20 will largely dictate how well any given software is going to=20 perform.
 
Also, while I am still awaiting the machinery, any advice on where = I should=20 start for getting to grips with this syntax?
 
 
Date: Tue, 16=20 Oct 2007 21:41:34 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Kjetil S. Matheussen" = <
kjetil.matheussen@notam02.no>
To:
planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU

cc: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU,=20 bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Re: sine waves in real=20 time


Fernando Lopez-Lezcano:
> On Mon, 2007-10-15 at = 15:22=20 -0700, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>>> On a very recent Intel = laptop=20 running a Core Duo at 2.4GHz (I think
>>> that's the speed), = SuperCollider would do 500 interpolated sine
>>> oscillators = with a=20 (roughly) 50% cpu load (in one of the cores).
>>
>> In = the=20 Scheme version of Snd, at 44100 KHz, I get about 180 such
>> = sines=20 (actually, I'm calling the sin function, not interpolating = some
>>=20 table):
>>
>> (with-sound (:statistics=20 #t)
>>   (let ((gens (make-vector=20 180)))
>>     (do ((i 0 (1+=20 i)))
>>         ((=3D i = 180))
>>       (vector-set! gens = i=20 (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2=20 pi)))))
>>    =20 (run
>>      (lambda=20 ()
>>        (do ((i 0 (1+=20 i)))
>>         &nb= sp; =20 ((=3D i = 44100))
>>         = =20 (let ((sum=20 0.0))
>>         &n= bsp; =20 (do ((k 0 (1+=20 k)))
>>         &nb= sp;     =20 ((=3D k=20 180))
>>         &n= bsp;   =20 (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens=20 k)))))
>>         &= nbsp; =20 (outa i (* .01 sum) *output*)))))))
>>
>>=20 ;test.snd:
>>   maxamp: = 0.2935
>>  =20 compute time: 1.020
>
> Wow, that's impressive. 180 directly = from=20 scheme...
> I never tried Kjetil's realtime snd, that would = (presumable)=20 be faster?
>


Just tried. And yes, its about twice as=20 fast:

(let* ((num = 130)
       =20 (gens (make-vector num)))
   (do ((i 0 (1+=20 i)))
       ((=3D i=20 num))
     (vector-set! gens i (make-oscil (* 10 = (1+ i))=20 (random (* 2 pi)))))
   (set! (rt-safety) = 0)
  =20 (<rt-play> 0 10
      (lambda=20 ()
        (let ((sum = 0.0))
  (do=20 ((k 0 (1+ k)))
       ((=3D k = num))
 =20    (set! sum (+ sum (oscil (vector-ref gens k)))))
  = (out (*=20 .01 sum))))))


Here's the generated c-code for the inner=20 loop:

static void rt_gen1__3(struct RT_Globals=20 *rt_globals)
{
     while = (!((rt_globals->k__2 =3D=3D=20 rt_globals->num__4))) {
  (rt_globals->sum__1 = =3D
 =20 (rt_globals->sum__1 +
    = mus_oscil(XEN_TO_MUS_ANY
 =20     (SCM_VECTOR_REF
      =20 (rt_globals->gens__5, ((int) rt_globals->k__2))), 0,
 =20     0)), rt_globals->k__2 =3D (1 +=20 rt_globals->k__2)
      = );
    =20 };
}

Its not quite optimal, but still I'm pretty
sure most = of the=20 time is spent in mus_oscil.

So I'm also pretty sure the = oscillator=20 generator in supercollider is super=20
fast.


------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C811CB.B6098690-- From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 18 15:30:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 18 14:30:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] PlanetCCRMA in music school In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1192742967.12964.37.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 20:14 +0200, Vedran Vucic wrote: > I am taking this opportunity to inform you that Linux Center in > Belgrade, Serbia installed in high music school in city Novi Sad > (north from Belgrade) Fedora Core7 on 4 machines and that they use > Planet CCRMA in classes of informatics in high music school. > Enthusiastic effort of Linux Center and teacher of informatics is a > pioneering work in introducing free software in music schools. Thanks, it is always very nice to hear success stories! Best! -- Fernando > If anyone does have similar experience please feel free to contact me. > One of results of the work in music school will be based on authoring > comprehensive manual that is aimed to help and encourage other > teachers of informatics in music schools to use free software, > presumably Fedora Core and Planet CCRMA. From lanas at securenet.net Thu Oct 18 17:23:01 2007 From: lanas at securenet.net (lanas) Date: Thu Oct 18 16:23:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] xine and jackd Message-ID: <20071018192223.7f494fb7@mistral.stie> Folks, I've re-installed the complete system recently and can't, for the life of me, remember how I got xine working with jackd previously. It doesn't seem to be part of CCRMA. I'd welcome any pointers on this. Cheers, Al From gangalee at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 13:57:01 2007 From: gangalee at comcast.net (Ira) Date: Fri Oct 19 12:57:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X Message-ID: <200710191956.l9JJu0w06088@cm-mail.stanford.edu> --_221F12D2-4F21-C149-7137-B75DE5322EA0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" To: "Ira" Cc: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sent: 19/10/2007 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:09 -0500, Ira wrote: > How about "how do I reinstall ccrma?" or "how do I reinstall X?" Could we try to see what changed? Do an "rpm -q -a --last" to see which packages were last installed. Do you remember what you did other than updates before X stopped working? It is strange that updates caused this as I have not issued any for quite a while and Fedora hasn't either.=20 [truncated by sender] that's what happened... I've attached the rpm log I'm on gdm version 2.14.11 Those were some good links, thanks. 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ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFR1ZSAxOSBEZWMgMjAwNiAxMDo0OToyNyBQTSBF U1QNCg== --_221F12D2-4F21-C149-7137-B75DE5322EA0_-- From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Oct 19 14:45:01 2007 From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Fri Oct 19 13:45:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <20071019190004.26655.4317.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071019190004.26655.4317.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20071019203547.M94156@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> > "Which processor and clock speed are you using?" 3.8 GHz Pentium 4. > Although I don't yet understand the syntax you are all using, I don't think the > 44100 KHz referred to below, has anything to do with the above, which > will largely dictate how well any given software is going to perform. oops - 44.1 KHz -- a typo. The higher the srate, the fewer the voices you'll get in real time, or any other time for that matter. My point was that you get more voices than you can use in software synthesis even in a language like Scheme where you don't have to wear a hard hat to program. From lanas at securenet.net Sat Oct 20 15:26:01 2007 From: lanas at securenet.net (lanas) Date: Sat Oct 20 14:26:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] xine and jackd In-Reply-To: <20071018192223.7f494fb7@mistral.stie> References: <20071018192223.7f494fb7@mistral.stie> Message-ID: <20071020172430.1613c06f@mistral.stie> Le Jeudi, 18 Octobre 2007 19:22:23 -0400, lanas a écrit : I thought it was a special (modified) xine package that enables xine to use jack since there was no such option in the xine configuration menus, but no, I was mistaken. For the sake of completeness on this topic, I'll simply add that xine uses a command-line paramter to enable jack usage: xine -A jack Cheers, Al From mysthr21 at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 15:41:01 2007 From: mysthr21 at gmail.com (Mysth-R) Date: Sat Oct 20 14:41:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] xine and jackd In-Reply-To: <20071020172430.1613c06f@mistral.stie> References: <20071018192223.7f494fb7@mistral.stie> <20071020172430.1613c06f@mistral.stie> Message-ID: <907c05c70710201440t321b5416j3d6f44f7c983c655@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_5493_23418573.1192916407886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline It works for me on fedora 7 with these packages : xine 0.99.5-1.lvn7 xine-lib 1.1.6-2.fc7 xine-lib-extras 1.1.6-2.fc7 xine-lib-extras-nonfree 1.1.6-1.lvn7 xine-plugin 1.0-3.fc7 hope this can help you cheers, Mysth-R 2007/10/20, lanas : > > Le Jeudi, 18 Octobre 2007 19:22:23 -0400, > lanas a =E9crit : > > I thought it was a special (modified) xine package that enables xine > to use jack since there was no such option in the xine > configuration menus, but no, I was mistaken. For the sake of > completeness on this topic, I'll simply add that xine uses a > command-line paramter to enable jack usage: > > xine -A jack > > Cheers, > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > --=20 {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_5493_23418573.1192916407886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline It works for me on fedora 7 with these packages :

xine 0.99.5-1.lvn7=
xine-lib 1.1.6-2.fc7
xine-lib-extras 1.1.6-2.fc7
xine-lib-extras-= nonfree 1.1.6-1.lvn7
xine-plugin 1.0-3.fc7

hope this can help you
cheers,

Mysth-R

2007/10/= 20, lanas <lanas@securenet.net>:
Le Jeudi, 18 Octobre 2007 19:22:23 -0400,
lanas <
lanas@securenet.net> a =E9crit :

 &nb= sp;I thought it was a special (modified) xine package that enables xine
= to use jack since there was no such option in the xine
configuration menus, but no, I was mistaken. For the sake of
complet= eness on this topic, I'll simply add that xine uses a
command-line p= aramter to enable jack usage:

xine -A jack

Cheers,

Al

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http://myspace.com/aideauditive ------=_Part_5493_23418573.1192916407886-- From lanas at securenet.net Sat Oct 20 19:40:09 2007 From: lanas at securenet.net (lanas) Date: Sat Oct 20 18:40:09 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] xine and jackd In-Reply-To: <907c05c70710201440t321b5416j3d6f44f7c983c655@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071018192223.7f494fb7@mistral.stie> <20071020172430.1613c06f@mistral.stie> <907c05c70710201440t321b5416j3d6f44f7c983c655@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071020213853.7b071c1c@mistral.stie> Le Samedi, 20 Octobre 2007 23:40:07 +0200, Mysth-R a écrit : > It works for me on fedora 7 with these packages : > > xine 0.99.5-1.lvn7 > xine-lib 1.1.6-2.fc7 > xine-lib-extras 1.1.6-2.fc7 > xine-lib-extras-nonfree 1.1.6-1.lvn7 > xine-plugin 1.0-3.fc7 > hope this can help you That's OK, all that's needed for xine to work with jack is the command-line parameter, i.e. any current version of xine should be the same regarding this. Cheers, Al From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Oct 20 19:50:05 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Oct 20 18:50:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] reinstalling/repairing X In-Reply-To: <200710191956.l9JJu0w06088@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <200710191956.l9JJu0w06088@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1192931368.27615.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 14:53 -0500, Ira wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:09 -0500, Ira wrote: > > How about "how do I reinstall ccrma?" or "how do I reinstall X?" > > Could we try to see what changed? Do an "rpm -q -a --last" to see which > packages were last installed. Do you remember what you did other than > updates before X stopped working? It is strange that updates caused this > as I have not issued any for quite a while and Fedora hasn't either. > [truncated by sender] > > that's what happened... > I've attached the rpm log > I'm on gdm version 2.14.11 > > Those were some good links, thanks. > Starting X w/ sudo did work. Well, at least you have a workaround. I still don't exactly know what might be happening. There's too many changes in packages to be able to pinpoint one as the culprit. One thing I never looked at is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration file. -- Fernando From joey.a" Message-ID: <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message: 1 > From: "Bill Schottstaedt" > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sine waves in real time > > > "Which processor and clock speed are you using?" > > 3.8 GHz Pentium 4. (Context: >> In the Scheme version of Snd, I get about 180 such sines) Thanks. That is a fast clock. From this I get that your Scheme algorithm has ~ 12% the efficiency of the SuperCollider algorithm, if you are running the CPU flat out, or ~ 23% if you are referring to 50% CPU loading. Understandable, really, because a look up table should always be faster than computing a sin (or even a log) function. > > Although I don't yet understand the syntax you are all using, I don't think the > > 44100 KHz referred to below, has anything to do with the above, which > > will largely dictate how well any given software is going to perform. > > oops - 44.1 KHz -- a typo. That sounds more like it! Standard audio sampling rate ;-) Message: 2 From: "Kjetil S. Matheussen" Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:28 PM > > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime at > 80% cpu usage, Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you appear get ~ the same performance, from the same software. Does this mean that AMD is ~twice as efficient as Intel, in music applications, or that Bill has specified for only 50% CPU loading? Bill? > and about 60 voices in non-realtime 100% cpu usage. Sorry, this does not compute. Which is the typo? From lists at moltenmercury.org Sun Oct 21 15:44:00 2007 From: lists at moltenmercury.org (Michael Curtis) Date: Sun Oct 21 14:44:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071020190004.10154.87375.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <200710221042.56725.lists@moltenmercury.org> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:29:05 joey.a wrote: > > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime at > > 80% cpu usage, > > Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you appear get ~ > the same performance, from the same software. > > Does this mean that AMD is ~twice as efficient as Intel, in music > applications, or that Bill has specified for only 50% CPU loading? Very much doubt that. The new Pentium 4s (and Core 2s) have massive floating point units which will easily best an Athlon XP. I think what we might be seeing is the impact of RAM speed. Scheme is an interpreted language, and as such will have a large memory footprint (especially Scheme, I think it would be quite difficult to parse / execute for a computer). Hence you're going to find that the process is more "memory bound" (needs to access main memory), whereas the highly optimised routines in SC probably fit entirely within the L2 cache. Hopefully that explanation makes sense to you. I've done courses in Computer Hardware so I hopefully I've explained things in a way that can be understood by people who aren't Hardware geeks ;). From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sun Oct 21 16:41:03 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sun Oct 21 15:41:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071020190004.10154.87375.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1193006445.1553.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 10:29 +0100, joey.a wrote: > Message: 1 > > From: "Bill Schottstaedt" > > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:00 PM > > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sine waves in real time > > > > > "Which processor and clock speed are you using?" > > > > 3.8 GHz Pentium 4. > (Context: >> In the Scheme version of Snd, I get about 180 such sines) > > Thanks. That is a fast clock. From this I get that your Scheme algorithm has > ~ 12% the efficiency of the SuperCollider algorithm, if you are running the > CPU flat out, or ~ 23% if you are referring to 50% CPU loading. > Understandable, really, because a look up table should always be faster than > computing a sin (or even a log) function. Watch out... a P4 is not comparable to the newer generation of Core Duo processors for Intel. Cycle for cycle the newer generations of processors do a lot more work, so comparing GHz has no real meaning. The best would be to find some standard benchmark and run it on those processors and then normalize for that (same with Intel vs. AMD, etc). -- Fernando > > > Although I don't yet understand the syntax you are all using, I don't > think the > > > 44100 KHz referred to below, has anything to do with the above, which > > > will largely dictate how well any given software is going to perform. > > > > oops - 44.1 KHz -- a typo. > > That sounds more like it! Standard audio sampling rate ;-) > > Message: 2 > From: "Kjetil S. Matheussen" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:28 PM > > > > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime at > > 80% cpu usage, > > Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you appear get ~ > the same performance, from the same software. > > Does this mean that AMD is ~twice as efficient as Intel, in music > applications, or that Bill has specified for only 50% CPU loading? > > Bill? > > > and about 60 voices in non-realtime 100% cpu usage. > > Sorry, this does not compute. Which is the typo? > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From andersvi at extern.uio.no Mon Oct 22 04:12:01 2007 From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi@extern.uio.no) Date: Mon Oct 22 03:12:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> (joey a.'s message of "Sun\, 21 Oct 2007 10\:29\:05 +0100") References: <20071020190004.10154.87375.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: >>>>> "ja" == joey a writes: ja> Cc: ja> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:28 PM >> >> Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in >> realtime at 80% cpu usage, ja> Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you ja> appear get ~ the same performance, from the same software. Not the same software. Kjetils referring to a library optimizing Snd for realtime work, so you might say theyre running with 2 different versions of Snd. In fact, Snd tends to be "the same software" only in very controlled research-labs.... From joey.a" <002301c813c4$e7372dd0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <00bb01c814a0$c8f9b4f0$01a8a8c0@system7125> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "joey.a" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Sine waves in real time > >>>>> "ja" == joey a writes: > > ja> Cc: > ja> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:28 PM > >> > >> Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in > >> realtime at 80% cpu usage, > > ja> Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you > ja> appear get ~ the same performance, from the same software. > > Not the same software. Kjetils referring to a library optimizing Snd > for realtime work, so you might say theyre running with 2 different > versions of Snd. > > In fact, Snd tends to be "the same software" only in very controlled > research-labs.... Obviously, I still have a lot to learn! So I am now taking Bill's advice (below), as an initial measure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Schottstaedt" To: "joey.a" ; "Kjetil S. Matheussen" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Sine waves in real time > Why not install it on your own machine and try it yourself? > ("it" being Supercollider, or Pd, or Snd, or Csound, or CMix, > or Nyquist... -- there's always another reason to put off > making music). Main reason I have not done so thus far, is apalling sound quality of my new(ish) laptop, even when jacked into a good amp & speakers. See soundcheck @ http://www.accelerators.co.uk/action . However, your advice does make sense, because I will then have a better idea of what I will actually need, in a new tower. Thanks to all of you for your advice. From kjetil.matheussen at notam02.no Mon Oct 22 10:53:01 2007 From: kjetil.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen) Date: Mon Oct 22 09:53:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Sine Waves, Hardware, and Software In-Reply-To: <20071019190004.26655.4317.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20071019190004.26655.4317.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: "joey.a": > > I guess the obvious question here, to both Kjetil S. Matheussen and Bill = > Schottstaedt, is "Which processor and clock speed are you using?" > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime at 80% cpu usage, and about 60 voices in non-realtime 100% cpu usage. How many voices I would get from supercollider, I don't know, but probably a lot lot more. Supercollider works by creating a graph of generators where each generator generates a block of samples for each iteration. This has both advances and disadvances, and the biggest advance (I would guess) is that its much faster. Common lisp music, on the other hand, works by letting you create one large generator instead, which gives more possibilities since you can edit each sample without sometimes having to write your own generator in C. > Also, while I am still awaiting the machinery, any advice on where I = > should start for getting to grips with this syntax? First step would be to learn scheme I guess. Here is a simpler version: (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i 30)) (let ((osc (make-oscil (* 10 (1+ i)) (random (* 2 pi))))) ( 0 9 (lambda () (out (* .01 (oscil osc))))))) It plays 30 oscillators for 9 seconds. http://www.schemers.org/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/doc/snd-rt/ From mtdnelson at airpost.net Mon Oct 22 10:53:36 2007 From: mtdnelson at airpost.net (Michael TD Nelson) Date: Mon Oct 22 09:53:36 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Saving songs in Hydrogen Message-ID: <1192989879.4229.2.camel@nels.wallflowerst.net> Hi all, For some reason, I'm having difficulties when saving a song from Hydrogen. I place the cursor in the box to name the file which I'm about to save, but when I type, nothing happens. My keyboard works generally (I'm using it now!), and I've not noticed any similar problems elsewhere in the system. Does anyone have any ideas? Would I be better off asking elsewhere? Thanks Michael From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 22 12:30:06 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Oct 22 11:30:06 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Saving songs in Hydrogen In-Reply-To: <1192989879.4229.2.camel@nels.wallflowerst.net> References: <1192989879.4229.2.camel@nels.wallflowerst.net> Message-ID: <1193077789.4015.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:04 +0100, Michael TD Nelson wrote: > Hi all, > > For some reason, I'm having difficulties when saving a song from > Hydrogen. I place the cursor in the box to name the file which I'm about > to save, but when I type, nothing happens. > > My keyboard works generally (I'm using it now!), and I've not noticed > any similar problems elsewhere in the system. > > Does anyone have any ideas? Would I be better off asking elsewhere? Which version of Hydrogen? (rpm -q hydrogen) Which version of Fedora? (cat /etc/fedora-release) (a quick test shows it works for me here, fc6 i386) -- Fernando From lanas at securenet.net Mon Oct 22 16:08:01 2007 From: lanas at securenet.net (lanas) Date: Mon Oct 22 15:08:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Swami Message-ID: <20071022180722.5f0b9cf3@mistral.stie> Hello ! Is there a chance to have Swami for FC6 x86_64 ? ;-) Cheers, Al From joey.a" Message-ID: <000e01c81588$747d1870$01a8a8c0@system7125> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:29:05 joey.a wrote: > > > > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime at > > > 80% cpu usage, > > > > Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you appear get ~ > > the same performance, from the same software. > > > > Does this mean that AMD is ~twice as efficient as Intel, in music > > applications, or that Bill has specified for only 50% CPU loading? > > Very much doubt that. The new Pentium 4s (and Core 2s) have massive floating > point units which will easily best an Athlon XP. I don't see the relevance of that, for practical music applications. Maximum line signal is 0 db by convention, and -100 db of noise is pretty much imperceptible. That equates to an amplitude range of 100,000 to 1. You can get that with 17 bits. Even the more basic versions of Fedora are 32 bits, so why would one need floating point processiong power on top? Are you saying that the software is squandering processing power by performing flops, when it could be doing straight signed multiplications more efficiently instead? > I think what we might be > seeing is the impact of RAM speed. Scheme is an interpreted language, and as > such will have a large memory footprint (especially Scheme, I think it would > be quite difficult to parse / execute for a computer). Hence you're going to > find that the process is more "memory bound" (needs to access main memory), > whereas the highly optimised routines in SC probably fit entirely within the > L2 cache. That, on the other hand, does make a lot of sense to me. From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Oct 23 20:01:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Oct 23 19:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Sine waves in real time In-Reply-To: <000e01c81588$747d1870$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071022190007.10609.88989.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <000e01c81588$747d1870$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1193191213.5541.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 16:21 +0100, joey.a wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:29:05 joey.a wrote: > > > > > > Its a 4 year old amd xp2800. I could run about 140 voices in realtime > at > > > > 80% cpu usage, > > > > > > Interesting. Your clock is ~ half the speed of Bill's, yet you appear > get ~ > > > the same performance, from the same software. > > > > > > Does this mean that AMD is ~twice as efficient as Intel, in music > > > applications, or that Bill has specified for only 50% CPU loading? > > > > Very much doubt that. The new Pentium 4s (and Core 2s) have massive > floating > > point units which will easily best an Athlon XP. > > I don't see the relevance of that, for practical music applications. > > Maximum line signal is 0 db by convention, and -100 db of noise is pretty > much imperceptible. That equates to an amplitude range of 100,000 to 1. > You can get that with 17 bits. > Even the more basic versions of Fedora are 32 bits, so why would one need > floating point processiong power on top? > > Are you saying that the software is squandering processing power by > performing flops, when it could be doing straight signed multiplications > more efficiently instead? "flops" might be more efficient that straight signed multiplications. The software is most probably not squandering anything by using floating point operations, and was tested, optimized and cajoled into having the highest performance after many many tests by guys that spent decades doing this. Current processors are very very complicated and understanding what is most efficient is _not_ straightforward (and eludes me, for one - I'm not an expert :-). It probably is less efficient to deal with fixed point arithmetic and all the special cases it creates than just using floating point, at least on reasonably recent cpus. AFAIK most (if not all) general purpose synthesis languages are using floating point these days... -- Fernando From joey.a" Message-ID: <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, or not? If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC initially? Unfortunately, problems arose during the partitioning of my laptop in preparation for installing FC, so it is still with my 'expert'. Consequently I can't yet just try it to see. > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:07:22 -0400 > From: lanas > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Swami > > Hello ! > > Is there a chance to have Swami for FC6 x86_64 ? ;-) From lorenjanwilson at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 08:16:01 2007 From: lorenjanwilson at gmail.com (Loren Jan Wilson) Date: Wed Oct 24 07:16:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd and supercollider not available for x86_64? Message-ID: <5e263c480710240715y17aca32dw3a44140af6403e38@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, This is my first time installing linux at home since 1999, so I'm sorry if I'm asking some newbie questions. I have a new intel quadcore system. I installed Fedora 7 using the x86_64 dvd acquired from Fedora Unity, and updated it. Then I installed the realtime kernel, and it worked fine. (Amazing work, by the way!) And I installed all the basic planet-ccrma packages (planetccrma-apps). I'm now noticing, however, that two of my big reasons for installing linux -- pd and supercollider -- aren't present. I've tried: yum install supercollider-world yum install supercollider yum install pd But those all fail with a "package not found" error. Is this because they don't work with x86_64? Is there a way to trick yum into installing only the i386 versions of any package that isn't available for x86_64? And then, if that were possible, would the software actually work afterwards? Alternately, would it be better to reinstall using the i386 version of fedora 7 and try again? Thanks in advance. Also: to Fernando and other PlanetCCRMA developers: thanks so much for providing an amazing and inspiring resource. Loren -- http://pitchformula.com/ http://h70s.com/ From errordeveloper at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 10:16:00 2007 From: errordeveloper at gmail.com (ilya .d) Date: Wed Oct 24 09:16:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd and supercollider not available for x86_64? In-Reply-To: <5e263c480710240715y17aca32dw3a44140af6403e38@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e263c480710240715y17aca32dw3a44140af6403e38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071024161700.GA20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> there is an issue with SC .. it has not been complitely ported yet if you wan't to use pd you probably need to compile one from the source. grab the lest version (0.41-0test6), version 0.40 and above will have a bug with ARRAYS (i.e. tables) .. you can do a lot of things without these, so if you are cocerned by stability - go for 0.40.3, i think there rpms for FC on the source site of Miller Puckette. good luck, -- Ilya On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:15:42AM -0500, Loren Jan Wilson wrote: > Hello there, > > This is my first time installing linux at home since 1999, so I'm > sorry if I'm asking some newbie questions. > > I have a new intel quadcore system. > I installed Fedora 7 using the x86_64 dvd acquired from Fedora Unity, > and updated it. > Then I installed the realtime kernel, and it worked fine. (Amazing > work, by the way!) > And I installed all the basic planet-ccrma packages (planetccrma-apps). > > I'm now noticing, however, that two of my big reasons for installing > linux -- pd and supercollider -- aren't present. I've tried: > > yum install supercollider-world > yum install supercollider > yum install pd > > But those all fail with a "package not found" error. > > Is this because they don't work with x86_64? Is there a way to trick > yum into installing only the i386 versions of any package that isn't > available for x86_64? And then, if that were possible, would the > software actually work afterwards? > > Alternately, would it be better to reinstall using the i386 version of > fedora 7 and try again? > > Thanks in advance. > > Also: to Fernando and other PlanetCCRMA developers: thanks so much for > providing an amazing and inspiring resource. > > Loren > > -- > http://pitchformula.com/ > http://h70s.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 24 10:39:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 24 09:39:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC In-Reply-To: <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071023190005.32748.20126.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 06:53 +0100, joey.a wrote: > Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages > which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, or > not? > > If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC initially? The 32 bit version of fc is the one that has the most packages available. Stuff like pd and supercollider (as noted in a different thread) are missing. Depending on what software you need you might be better off with the 32 bit version (which will run just fine on 64 bit capable hardware). -- Fernando > Unfortunately, problems arose during the partitioning of my laptop in > preparation for installing FC, so it is still with my 'expert'. Consequently > I can't yet just try it to see. From alex.smith.ixium+xithium at googlemail.com Wed Oct 24 11:01:01 2007 From: alex.smith.ixium+xithium at googlemail.com (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed Oct 24 10:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 Message-ID: I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 bit Fedora? Thanks Alex From errordeveloper at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:28:02 2007 From: errordeveloper at gmail.com (ilya .d) Date: Wed Oct 24 10:28:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC In-Reply-To: <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <20071023190005.32748.20126.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20071024172947.GC20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:38:29AM -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 06:53 +0100, joey.a wrote: > > Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages > > which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, or > > not? > > > > If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC initially? > > The 32 bit version of fc is the one that has the most packages > available. Stuff like pd and supercollider (as noted in a different > thread) are missing. Depending on what software you need you might be > better off with the 32 bit version (which will run just fine on 64 bit > capable hardware). do you think there any performance improvments comparing 64bit pkgs agains 32bit once on the same system ? > > -- Fernando > > > > Unfortunately, problems arose during the partitioning of my laptop in > > preparation for installing FC, so it is still with my 'expert'. Consequently > > I can't yet just try it to see. > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From lorenjanwilson at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:42:01 2007 From: lorenjanwilson at gmail.com (Loren Jan Wilson) Date: Wed Oct 24 10:42:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd and supercollider not available for x86_64? In-Reply-To: <20071024161700.GA20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> References: <5e263c480710240715y17aca32dw3a44140af6403e38@mail.gmail.com> <20071024161700.GA20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> Message-ID: <5e263c480710241041t2fa0d95en41fd0552ee0cbc2a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/07, ilya .d wrote: > there is an issue with SC .. it has not been complitely ported yet Supercollider hasn't been ported to x86_64? or is it a planetCCRMA-specific porting that needs to be done? I think I've seen 64-bit debian packages for supercollider. In the yum faq it says, "If you do "yum install foo" then you will get both foo.i386.rpm and foo.x86_64.rpm installed on your system." The 32-bit SC package should just work, right? (assuming I could get it installed.) So, is there a way to trick yum into installing and using the 32 bit version of SC from planetCCRMA? Some kind of config file poking or something? I'm really into using yum whenever I can because it deals with dependencies.... one of my huge rpm pet peeves. Loren > > if you wan't to use pd you probably need to compile one from the source. > grab the lest version (0.41-0test6), version 0.40 and above will have > a bug with ARRAYS (i.e. tables) .. you can do a lot of things without > these, so if you are cocerned by stability - go for 0.40.3, > i think there rpms for FC on the source site of Miller Puckette. > > > good luck, > -- > Ilya > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:15:42AM -0500, Loren Jan Wilson wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > This is my first time installing linux at home since 1999, so I'm > > sorry if I'm asking some newbie questions. > > > > I have a new intel quadcore system. > > I installed Fedora 7 using the x86_64 dvd acquired from Fedora Unity, > > and updated it. > > Then I installed the realtime kernel, and it worked fine. (Amazing > > work, by the way!) > > And I installed all the basic planet-ccrma packages (planetccrma-apps). > > > > I'm now noticing, however, that two of my big reasons for installing > > linux -- pd and supercollider -- aren't present. I've tried: > > > > yum install supercollider-world > > yum install supercollider > > yum install pd > > > > But those all fail with a "package not found" error. > > > > Is this because they don't work with x86_64? Is there a way to trick > > yum into installing only the i386 versions of any package that isn't > > available for x86_64? And then, if that were possible, would the > > software actually work afterwards? > > > > Alternately, would it be better to reinstall using the i386 version of > > fedora 7 and try again? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Also: to Fernando and other PlanetCCRMA developers: thanks so much for > > providing an amazing and inspiring resource. > > > > Loren > > > > -- > > http://pitchformula.com/ > > http://h70s.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 24 12:46:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 24 11:46:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd and supercollider not available for x86_64? In-Reply-To: <5e263c480710241041t2fa0d95en41fd0552ee0cbc2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e263c480710240715y17aca32dw3a44140af6403e38@mail.gmail.com> <20071024161700.GA20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> <5e263c480710241041t2fa0d95en41fd0552ee0cbc2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193251534.10067.24.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:41 -0500, Loren Jan Wilson wrote: > On 10/24/07, ilya .d wrote: > > there is an issue with SC .. it has not been complitely ported yet > > Supercollider hasn't been ported to x86_64? or is it a > planetCCRMA-specific porting that needs to be done? I think I've seen > 64-bit debian packages for supercollider. Supercollider has not been completely ported to x86_64. Supercollider consists of two parts, sclang and scsynth. AFAIK sclang (the language bytecode interpreter) has to run in a 32 bit populated chroot environment. Scsynth (the synthesis server) can be compiled and runs fine in 64 bits (AFAIK). So it would be complicated to try to package it. I presume that what you saw in 64 bit Debian is just scsynth... See this: http://www.yeeking.net/index.php?location=Quick%2064%20bit%20Debian% 20Supercollider%20install%20howto Or this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/supercollider/+bug/88054 (scroll down to the next to last comment) So, no clean solution is available for Supercollider on 64 bit os installs. > In the yum faq it says, "If you do "yum install foo" then you will get > both foo.i386.rpm and foo.x86_64.rpm installed on your system." The > 32-bit SC package should just work, right? (assuming I could get it > installed.) >From what I know I don't think that will work. You would have to create and populate a chroot with a 32 bit environment... But I have not tried... > So, is there a way to trick yum into installing and using > the 32 bit version of SC from planetCCRMA? Some kind of config file > poking or something? I imagine you could point (temporarily!) to the 32 bit repository... But I would not do that :-( > I'm really into using yum whenever I can because it deals with > dependencies.... one of my huge rpm pet peeves. Yup, shared by all other packaging formats that do not include dependency resolution natively (ie: debian's native packages, for example). -- Fernando From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 24 12:56:03 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 24 11:56:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC In-Reply-To: <20071024172947.GC20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> References: <20071023190005.32748.20126.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <20071024172947.GC20499@00110101.errordevlopment.org.uk> Message-ID: <1193252134.10067.31.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 17:29 +0000, ilya .d wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 09:38:29AM -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 06:53 +0100, joey.a wrote: > > > Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages > > > which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, or > > > not? > > > > > > If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC initially? > > > > The 32 bit version of fc is the one that has the most packages > > available. Stuff like pd and supercollider (as noted in a different > > thread) are missing. Depending on what software you need you might be > > better off with the 32 bit version (which will run just fine on 64 bit > > capable hardware). > > do you think there any performance improvments comparing 64bit pkgs > agains 32bit once on the same system ? I don't have any experience comparing the two of them. My feeling is that you perhaps would see a few percent improvement. Others will surely disagree (it depends on what you test, how you test it, etc, etc). We are blissfully running 32 bit Fedora in our 64 bit workstations... :-) -- Fernando From smoak at mis.net Wed Oct 24 13:32:02 2007 From: smoak at mis.net (Marv Smoak) Date: Wed Oct 24 12:32:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] New fc7 install Message-ID: <200710241530.53959.smoak@mis.net> Hi Fernando and all, My Linux buddy, Bill, just brought over my machine which had given me no joy with fc5 months ago. I couldn't get sound working at all and it had a fan that roared. Now it has a new fan, new fc7 pccrma install. And the install appears to have been straight forward and sound works. Based on very limited use. More later. (Let's see if email works :<). ) Marv in Lex, KY where we're getting much need rain From hollywoodb at fastmail.fm Wed Oct 24 17:45:01 2007 From: hollywoodb at fastmail.fm (Wade Nelson) Date: Wed Oct 24 16:45:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? Message-ID: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> I'm curious if there's any support for CentOS5 with PlanetCCRMA? I've been a happy PlanetCCRMA user since Fedora Core 5, but at least for me it would be more convenient to have my audio workstation running a distribution with a longer support cycle and fewer upgrades. If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 and was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. Ideally the end result would be up-to-date PlanetCCRMA packages for latest CentOS versions that would allow for system upgrades every 2+ years instead of every 10 to 12 months (two fedora release cycles before upstream support is dropped). I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting things like PulseAudio. Of course there's the added benefit of making PlanetCCRMA packages available (or easily rebuilt for the paranoid) for RHEL5 as well. ---------------------- Wade Nelson hollywoodb@fastmail.fm "I may have to share this planet with animals, but I'm doing my damn best to eat every last one of them." From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Oct 24 19:48:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Oct 24 18:48:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote: > I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the > Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 > architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 bit > Fedora? I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and release if you are willing to test it out... -- Fernando From Arnaud.Gomes at ircam.fr Thu Oct 25 01:01:01 2007 From: Arnaud.Gomes at ircam.fr (Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale) Date: Thu Oct 25 00:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? In-Reply-To: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> (Wade Nelson's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:26:13 -0500") References: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Hi, "Wade Nelson" writes: > If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 and > was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. I have already done part of this for RHEL4 and RHEL5 derivatives. I don't have a repository online at the moment for several reasons; I could have one in a few days but most packages are quite out of date. Actually I intend to get back to work as soon as I am able to put together a sane build system, which I am currently working at. > I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would > be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA > packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting > things like PulseAudio. >From my experience with CentOS4, many packages build with little or no change. The lisp-based stuff is quite involved, but AFAIK this is the case for Fedora too, or at least it was before Fedora started to include packages like sbcl; I have not really been following these issues closely. The only package I was really unable to build even though I tried was ardour, because of the recent versions of glib/gtk+ required for ardour2. -- Arnaud From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 25 10:53:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 25 09:53:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? In-Reply-To: References: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:00 +0200, Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale wrote: > Hi, > > "Wade Nelson" writes: > > > If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 and > > was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. > > I have already done part of this for RHEL4 and RHEL5 derivatives. I > don't have a repository online at the moment for several reasons; I > could have one in a few days but most packages are quite out of date. > > Actually I intend to get back to work as soon as I am able to put > together a sane build system, which I am currently working at. > > > I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would > > be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA > > packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting > > things like PulseAudio. > > >From my experience with CentOS4, many packages build with little or no > change. The lisp-based stuff is quite involved, but AFAIK this is the > case for Fedora too, or at least it was before Fedora started to > include packages like sbcl; I have not really been following these > issues closely. The only package I was really unable to build even > though I tried was ardour, because of the recent versions of glib/gtk+ > required for ardour2. I've been hinting at getting this done for quite a while :-( Right now I'm also working again on my build system, I upgraded to centos5 and some stuff has to be tweaked. I'm close... If I do this I would probably only deal with Centos5. One good thing is the EPEL repository. Just in the same way that Planet CCRMA packages are migrating to Fedora proper, the same thing could happen (maybe at the same time?) with Centos5 support and EPEL for RHEL/CentOS 5. -- Fernando From alex.smith.ixium+xithium at googlemail.com Thu Oct 25 13:32:02 2007 From: alex.smith.ixium+xithium at googlemail.com (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu Oct 25 12:32:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Midisport Firmware - x86_64 References: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:47:30 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote: >> I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the >> Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 >> architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 bit >> Fedora? > > I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and release if > you are willing to test it out... > > -- Fernando That would be great. I'm happy to test it out on my system. Thanks Alex From alex.smith.ixium at googlemail.com Thu Oct 25 13:32:48 2007 From: alex.smith.ixium at googlemail.com (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu Oct 25 12:32:48 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <314ccdac0710251214h7d17d595na2d5917e5d0c9404@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_2916_8721902.1193339664401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system. Thanks Alex On 25/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote: > > I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the > > Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 > > architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 bit > > Fedora? > > I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and release if > you are willing to test it out... > > -- Fernando > > > ------=_Part_2916_8721902.1193339664401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system.

Thanks
Alex

On 25/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano < nando@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote:
> I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the
> Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64
> architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 bit
> Fedora?

I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and release if
you are willing to test it out...

-- Fernando



------=_Part_2916_8721902.1193339664401-- From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Oct 25 18:15:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Oct 25 17:15:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 In-Reply-To: <314ccdac0710251214h7d17d595na2d5917e5d0c9404@mail.gmail.com> References: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <314ccdac0710251214h7d17d595na2d5917e5d0c9404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193357655.15465.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 20:14 +0100, Alexander Smith wrote: > That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system. Ok, built and released on fc6/7 x86_64... not tested :-) -- Fernando > On 25/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote: > > I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the > > Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 > > architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 > > bit Fedora? > > I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and > release if you are willing to test it out... From shakti at bayarea.net Fri Oct 26 00:28:00 2007 From: shakti at bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Thu Oct 25 23:28:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 Message-ID: <20071025231637.8ce0ac39.shakti@bayarea.net> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 20:14 +0100, Alexander Smith wrote: >> That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system. Then Fernando replied: >Ok, built and released on fc6/7 x86_64... not tested :-) I had read the list mail and didn't think much of this because as much as I wanted to get hold of a 8x8 midisport; I could not find one and gave up. Just a little while ago as I was checking for updates on Fedora 7 (64bit)(1) and came across the two packages that Fernando put together. I decided to check them out when I saw that they also supported the Radium, I went and got our old Radium 49. Well, for what it's worth, the Radium works fine as a keyboard and controller with the 64 build of the software. I haven't checked out routing midi from the computer through the Radium's back panel midi out though. I loaded up Qjackctl, WhySynth, amSynth, KMidimon; and had some fun making funky sounds with it all. Tracey (1) I forgot to mention this before... Thanks Nigel for showing me how to get Apt and especially Synaptic working on Fedora 7. From shakti at bayarea.net Fri Oct 26 00:31:01 2007 From: shakti at bayarea.net (Tracey Hytry) Date: Thu Oct 25 23:31:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 Message-ID: <20071025232954.460a8e96.shakti@bayarea.net> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 20:14 +0100, Alexander Smith wrote: >> That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system. Then Fernando replied: >Ok, built and released on fc6/7 x86_64... not tested :-) I had read the list mail and didn't think much of this because as much as I wanted to get hold of a 8x8 midisport; I could not find one and gave up. Just a little while ago as I was checking for updates on Fedora 7 (64bit)(1) and came across the two packages that Fernando put together. I decided to check them out when I saw that they also supported the Radium, I went and got our old Radium 49. Well, for what it's worth, the Radium works fine as a keyboard and controller with the 64 build of the software. I haven't checked out routing midi from the computer through the Radium's back panel midi out though. I loaded up Qjackctl, WhySynth, amSynth, KMidimon; and had some fun making funky sounds with it all. Tracey (1) I forgot to mention this before... Thanks Nigel for showing me how to get Apt and especially Synaptic working on Fedora 7. From rvestal at trilug.org Fri Oct 26 07:45:03 2007 From: rvestal at trilug.org (Roy Vestal) Date: Fri Oct 26 06:45:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? In-Reply-To: <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4721EE66.6050902@trilug.org> I am definitely interested as well. I've started a small business using FC5 with the Planet CCRMA installs of Ardour, Rosegarden, Lilypad, Hydrogen + dependancies. I would love to move to a more "stable" platform. I need to upgrade to get Ardour2. Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:00 +0200, Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> "Wade Nelson" writes: >> >> >>> If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 and >>> was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. >>> >> I have already done part of this for RHEL4 and RHEL5 derivatives. I >> don't have a repository online at the moment for several reasons; I >> could have one in a few days but most packages are quite out of date. >> >> Actually I intend to get back to work as soon as I am able to put >> together a sane build system, which I am currently working at. >> >> >>> I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would >>> be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA >>> packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting >>> things like PulseAudio. >>> >> >From my experience with CentOS4, many packages build with little or no >> change. The lisp-based stuff is quite involved, but AFAIK this is the >> case for Fedora too, or at least it was before Fedora started to >> include packages like sbcl; I have not really been following these >> issues closely. The only package I was really unable to build even >> though I tried was ardour, because of the recent versions of glib/gtk+ >> required for ardour2. >> > > I've been hinting at getting this done for quite a while :-( > > Right now I'm also working again on my build system, I upgraded to > centos5 and some stuff has to be tweaked. I'm close... > > If I do this I would probably only deal with Centos5. One good thing is > the EPEL repository. Just in the same way that Planet CCRMA packages are > migrating to Fedora proper, the same thing could happen (maybe at the > same time?) with Centos5 support and EPEL for RHEL/CentOS 5. > > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > From rvestal at trilug.org Fri Oct 26 07:47:02 2007 From: rvestal at trilug.org (Roy Vestal) Date: Fri Oct 26 06:47:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? In-Reply-To: <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4721EECA.4020803@trilug.org> Sorry for the repeat...Hit Send before my thought finished... Whats the status of x86_64 support? I would love to take advantage of my hardware power as well. Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:00 +0200, Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> "Wade Nelson" writes: >> >> >>> If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 and >>> was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. >>> >> I have already done part of this for RHEL4 and RHEL5 derivatives. I >> don't have a repository online at the moment for several reasons; I >> could have one in a few days but most packages are quite out of date. >> >> Actually I intend to get back to work as soon as I am able to put >> together a sane build system, which I am currently working at. >> >> >>> I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would >>> be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA >>> packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting >>> things like PulseAudio. >>> >> >From my experience with CentOS4, many packages build with little or no >> change. The lisp-based stuff is quite involved, but AFAIK this is the >> case for Fedora too, or at least it was before Fedora started to >> include packages like sbcl; I have not really been following these >> issues closely. The only package I was really unable to build even >> though I tried was ardour, because of the recent versions of glib/gtk+ >> required for ardour2. >> > > I've been hinting at getting this done for quite a while :-( > > Right now I'm also working again on my build system, I upgraded to > centos5 and some stuff has to be tweaked. I'm close... > > If I do this I would probably only deal with Centos5. One good thing is > the EPEL repository. Just in the same way that Planet CCRMA packages are > migrating to Fedora proper, the same thing could happen (maybe at the > same time?) with Centos5 support and EPEL for RHEL/CentOS 5. > > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > From green at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 08:19:01 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Fri Oct 26 07:19:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] CentOS5 support? In-Reply-To: <4721EE66.6050902@trilug.org> References: <1193268373.11093.1217684543@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1193331141.14726.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <4721EE66.6050902@trilug.org> Message-ID: <4721F720.5020604@redhat.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020300080000090905080201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roy Vestal wrote: > I am definitely interested as well. I've started a small business using > FC5 with the Planet CCRMA installs of Ardour, Rosegarden, Lilypad, > Hydrogen + dependancies. I would love to move to a more "stable" > platform. I need to upgrade to get Ardour2. All of these packages are part of Fedora proper now, which includes x86-64 builds (to answer your follow-on email). I suggest volunteering to migrate these packages to the Enterprise Extras repository... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL AG > > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:00 +0200, Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> "Wade Nelson" writes: >>> >>> >>>> If there isn't, I'm considering rebuilding the SRPMS against CentOS5 >>>> and >>>> was wondering if anyone else had similar interest. >>>> >>> I have already done part of this for RHEL4 and RHEL5 derivatives. I >>> don't have a repository online at the moment for several reasons; I >>> could have one in a few days but most packages are quite out of date. >>> >>> Actually I intend to get back to work as soon as I am able to put >>> together a sane build system, which I am currently working at. >>> >>> >>>> I'm not sure in the future (figure 2+ years down the road) if it would >>>> be rather simple or rather difficult to keep backporting PlanetCCRMA >>>> packages to CentOS, especially with future Fedora versions supporting >>>> things like PulseAudio. >>>> >>> >From my experience with CentOS4, many packages build with little or no >>> change. The lisp-based stuff is quite involved, but AFAIK this is the >>> case for Fedora too, or at least it was before Fedora started to >>> include packages like sbcl; I have not really been following these >>> issues closely. The only package I was really unable to build even >>> though I tried was ardour, because of the recent versions of glib/gtk+ >>> required for ardour2. >>> >> >> I've been hinting at getting this done for quite a while :-( >> >> Right now I'm also working again on my build system, I upgraded to >> centos5 and some stuff has to be tweaked. I'm close... >> >> If I do this I would probably only deal with Centos5. One good thing is >> the EPEL repository. Just in the same way that Planet CCRMA packages are >> migrating to Fedora proper, the same thing could happen (maybe at the >> same time?) with Centos5 support and EPEL for RHEL/CentOS 5. >> -- Fernando >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PlanetCCRMA mailing list >> PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu >> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma --------------020300080000090905080201 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="green.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="green.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Anthony Green n:Green;Anthony org:Red Hat, Inc. email;internet:green@redhat.com tel;cell:(650) 207-7122 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020300080000090905080201-- From hcengar at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 12:17:03 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Oct 26 11:17:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's Message-ID: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). Cheers! Hector From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Oct 26 14:20:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Oct 26 13:20:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193429947.18470.7.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:16 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hi, > > Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an > update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is > overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's > is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). Hey, thanks for the update, no I was not aware of that update... Sigh... :-) I'll follow up on this this afternoon. -- Fernando From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Oct 26 16:22:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Oct 26 15:22:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's In-Reply-To: <1193429947.18470.7.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> <1193429947.18470.7.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1193437300.18470.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 13:19 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:16 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an > > update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is > > overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's > > is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). > > Hey, thanks for the update, no I was not aware of that update... It is now up to date, 1.2.1-10.1 is out for fc7. Thanks again for the heads up! -- Fernando From hcengar at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 19:53:02 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Oct 26 18:53:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's In-Reply-To: <1193437300.18470.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> <1193429947.18470.7.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1193437300.18470.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650710261852lfe97734ua030ed6e73d6d380@mail.gmail.com> No problem! Thank you for the quick response! Hector On 10/26/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 13:19 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:16 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an > > > update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is > > > overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's > > > is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). > > > > Hey, thanks for the update, no I was not aware of that update... > > It is now up to date, 1.2.1-10.1 is out for fc7. > Thanks again for the heads up! > -- Fernando > > > From joey.a" <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <001401c81953$254c3370$01a8a8c0@system7125> Still more unfortunately, my local expert was more efficient than I had expected. By the time of your below email, he had solved the partitioning problems, installed FC 7 on the new partition, downloaded PlanetCCRMA software onto that, and given me an accelerated crash course in Linux, leaving me somewhat streesed out. My (20 minute later) forwarding to him of your below response, then left him in the same state, so it looks like I am stuck with the 64 bit version for the time being. Consequently, since I can't even open most of the programs, it would be helpful if you could indicate precisely which ones should open in a 64 bit environment (under what conditions), and which ones shouldn't, so that I can work out what (if anything) I am doing wrong. In addition, he has pointed out that FC 5 is no longer supported (suggesting that the 32 bit version of FC 6 also might not be, for much longer), and has suggested that I might be better off installing the longer term supported Ubuntu, which he is confident Planet CCRMA should run on. I would appreciate your comments on that, too. At this stage, the main thing I need is help files. I did manage to open Rosegarden, which was considerate enough to tell me it needed JACK server to function. Although I could not find that in the software list, I did manage to find, by trial & error that Qjackctl, followed by start did the trick for that (cryptic, or not?) I also managed to open Snd whose basic help did work. However, none of the related help did, giving e.g. Firefox cannot find the file at file:///snd.html#etc . (Surely that must be a bug which can be easily fixed, if you know where these files are supposed to be located?) I do now have some pretty good help files for SuperCollider (which is what I think I need most). Unfortunately, however, as we already know now, this does not work with 64 bit Linux. I did eventually find a Windows (beta version) link which wasn't empty, and so downloaded that onto the other partition, but that doesn't work either (not even a response to 2+2, enter). I don't think I am completely useless when it comes to computers and music. I did, after all, manage to design, build, program, & debug, a pyramid computer music system based on refinements of a digitally controlled analog flight simulation computer, with one of the first 16 bit microprocesssors at the (lower end) man-macine interface, over a quarter of a century ago. However, my initial attempt to interface with Planet CCRMA have left me feeling a bit like Homer Simpson, when he can't fin d the ANY key. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" To: "joey.a" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 06:53 +0100, joey.a wrote: > > Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages > > which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, or > > not? > > > > If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC initially? > > The 32 bit version of fc is the one that has the most packages > available. Stuff like pd and supercollider (as noted in a different > thread) are missing. Depending on what software you need you might be > better off with the 32 bit version (which will run just fine on 64 bit > capable hardware). > > -- Fernando > > > > Unfortunately, problems arose during the partitioning of my laptop in > > preparation for installing FC, so it is still with my 'expert'. Consequently > > I can't yet just try it to see. > > From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sun Oct 28 12:25:02 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sun Oct 28 11:25:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC In-Reply-To: <001401c81953$254c3370$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071023190005.32748.20126.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <001401c81953$254c3370$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1193595845.30371.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:09 +0000, joey.a wrote: > Still more unfortunately, my local expert was more efficient than I had > expected. By the time of your below email, he had solved the partitioning > problems, installed FC 7 on the new partition, downloaded PlanetCCRMA > software onto that, and given me an accelerated crash course in Linux, > leaving me somewhat streesed out. My (20 minute later) forwarding to him of > your below response, then left him in the same state, so it looks like I am > stuck with the 64 bit version for the time being. > > Consequently, since I can't even open most of the programs, it would be > helpful if you could indicate precisely which ones should open in a 64 bit > environment (under what conditions), and which ones shouldn't, so that I can > work out what (if anything) I am doing wrong. The ones that got installed should work. Anything that does not work (AFAIK) is not available at all for the 64 bit versions of FC. Most of the useful programs need Jack to be up and running before they are able to start. Some are polite and tell you something is missing (like Rosegarden), some will silently fail to start. In those cases you can open a terminal ("Applications" -> "System Tools" -> "Terminal") and type the command that starts the program. It may tell you things about what's wrong as it fails. > In addition, he has pointed out that FC 5 is no longer supported (suggesting > that the 32 bit version of FC 6 also might not be, for much longer), and has > suggested that I might be better off installing the longer term supported > Ubuntu, which he is confident Planet CCRMA should run on. Ubuntu is based on Debian as the core distribution and so is basically incompatible with Planet CCRMA (which is built on top of Fedora). > I would appreciate your comments on that, too. Planet CCRMA packages will not install on top of Ubuntu. There an initiative that is part of Ubuntu called Ubuntu Studio that provides the same type of stuff that Planet CCRMA provides. Fedora is fast paced, new releases every 6 months or so. So it has the advantage of having newer software available and the disadvantage of a fast release cycle. It would be fine to skip every other release, for example, but sooner or later you'll have to update to a newer one. > At this stage, the main thing I need is help files. > > I did manage to open Rosegarden, which was considerate enough to tell me it > needed JACK server to function. Although I could not find that in the > software list, I did manage to find, by trial & error that Qjackctl, > followed by start did the trick for that (cryptic, or not?) Yes, Qjackctl is the first thing you start (if you want to work with jack). Probably you want to go to preferences and change - in the Setup dialog - the interface from "Default" to "hw:0" which points directly to your first soundcard (or "hw:1" which is the second, etc). "Frames/Period" and "Periods/Buffer" will define the latency of Jack, or in other words how small the buffers it uses are. The smaller, the more responsive a soft synth will be to real time commands. I normally use 128 and 2 with good results. > I also managed to open Snd whose basic help did work. However, none of the > related help did, giving e.g. Firefox cannot find the file at > file:///snd.html#etc . (Surely that must be a bug which can be easily fixed, > if you know where these files are supposed to be located?) You should be able to get to its manual in a browser by pointing to: file:///usr/share/doc/snd-9.1/snd.html This is probably a packaging problem, I have to take a look at it. > I do now have some pretty good help files for SuperCollider (which is what I > think I need most). Unfortunately, however, as we already know now, this > does not work with 64 bit Linux. I did eventually find a Windows (beta > version) link which wasn't empty, and so downloaded that onto the other > partition, but that doesn't work either (not even a response to 2+2, enter). Psycollider? Hmm, I think that should work, unless your version of Windows is 64 bit as well. > I don't think I am completely useless when it comes to computers and music. > I did, after all, manage to design, build, program, & debug, a pyramid > computer music system based on refinements of a digitally controlled analog > flight simulation computer, with one of the first 16 bit microprocesssors at > the (lower end) man-macine interface, over a quarter of a century ago. Wow... > However, my initial attempt to interface with Planet CCRMA have left me > feeling a bit like Homer Simpson, when he can't fin d the ANY key. You will need a bit of patience I'm afraid. You are tackling a new operating system, new applications, etc, etc. It can drive you into overload very easily :-) It does that to me from time to time. Usually the home web pages for most Linux applications have links to documentation on how to use the program. Some are good, some are bad and on somes you have to learn by doing. When there's documentation available in the original software package I install it. The location is not necessarily the same for everything. Sometimes it is available from the menus of the app itself, sometimes you have to do a little digging to find it. For example, most packages come with a README file that tells you what they do, and it is usually installed in the doc directory, which is here: /usr/share/doc/ You will see docs for most of the installed programs there. You can also see what files the program has installed and see if there's anything documentation related. In a terminal type: rpm -q -l package_name | more That will list all files in a given package. Pretty long and useless list sometimes. But: rpm -q -l package_name | grep README will list anything that has README in its name (a better clue). Or rpm -q -l package_name | grep doc will list anything that has doc in its name. rpm -q -i package_name will also list more details for the package, including the URL of the home page of the software, which may have docs available. Most packages are listed in the Planet CCRMA home page with links to the home site as well. Hope this helps a little bit... Perhaps others can chime in with good online resources... -- Fernando > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" > To: "joey.a" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC > > > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 06:53 +0100, joey.a wrote: > > > Sorry, I am still a bit confused here. Do the various software packages > > > which are still 32 bits actually already run on 64 bit versions of FC, > or > > > not? > > > > > > If not, might I be better off installing a 32 bit version of FC > initially? > > > > The 32 bit version of fc is the one that has the most packages > > available. Stuff like pd and supercollider (as noted in a different > > thread) are missing. Depending on what software you need you might be > > better off with the 32 bit version (which will run just fine on 64 bit > > capable hardware). > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > Unfortunately, problems arose during the partitioning of my laptop in > > > preparation for installing FC, so it is still with my 'expert'. > Consequently > > > I can't yet just try it to see. > > > > From alex.smith.ixium at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 10:30:01 2007 From: alex.smith.ixium at googlemail.com (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon Oct 29 09:30:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Midisport Firmware - x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1193357655.15465.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1193276851.10067.56.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <314ccdac0710251214h7d17d595na2d5917e5d0c9404@mail.gmail.com> <1193357655.15465.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <314ccdac0710260238r7cb7a533r1eb9d64c4510cffe@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_5582_22689881.1193391538028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's working perfectly, thanks very much :D On 26/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 20:14 +0100, Alexander Smith wrote: > > That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system. > > Ok, built and released on fc6/7 x86_64... not tested :-) > -- Fernando > > > > > On 25/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote: > > > I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the > > > Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64 > > > architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64 > > > bit Fedora? > > > > I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and > > release if you are willing to test it out... > > > > ------=_Part_5582_22689881.1193391538028 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's working perfectly, thanks very much :D

On 26/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu > wrote:
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 20:14 +0100, Alexander Smith wrote:
> That would be great. I'm happy to test the file on my system.

Ok, built and released on fc6/7 x86_64... not tested :-)
-- Fernando



> On 25/10/2007, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>
> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 11:59 +0000, Alexander Smith wrote:
> > I've just bought an M-Audio Midisport 2x2, and am wondering is the
> > Midisport firmware loader going to be made available for the x86_64
> > architecture? Is there something that stops it being build on 64
> > bit Fedora?
>
>         I don't know and can't test at this point. I could build and
>         release if you are willing to test it out...




------=_Part_5582_22689881.1193391538028-- From admin.covenantofblood at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 10:31:49 2007 From: admin.covenantofblood at gmail.com (pyrael) Date: Mon Oct 29 09:31:49 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] using jackd for sound system? Message-ID: <13449472.post@talk.nabble.com> I am running Fedora 7 with KDE and full CCRMA install I noticed in the control center under sound and video that jackd is listed as available for use as the sound server (awesome) It works fine for most things, but I have no sound when viewing flash content. Is there a way to configure Flash/jack/arts/alsa or whatever so that, for example when I listen to pandora radio, that flash will send it's audio through jackd? When i choose jackd from the menu in the control panel, it add arts as a connection and wires it to alsa 1&2 (I have 8 in and 2 out for alsa) Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/using-jackd-for-sound-system--tf4705259.html#a13449472 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From joey.a" <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <001401c81953$254c3370$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193595845.30371.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <002001c81a4d$458cf9d0$01a8a8c0@system7125> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" To: "joey.a" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC > On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:09 +0000, joey.a wrote: > > Consequently, since I can't even open most of the programs, it would be > > helpful if you could indicate precisely which ones should open in a 64 bit > > environment (under what conditions), and which ones shouldn't, so that I can > > work out what (if anything) I am doing wrong. > > The ones that got installed should work. Anything that does not work > (AFAIK) is not available at all for the 64 bit versions of FC. Makes sense SuperCollider is not displayed. Neither is the Scheme version of Snd (AFAICT) > Most of the useful programs need Jack to be up and running before they > are able to start. Some are polite and tell you something is missing > (like Rosegarden), some will silently fail to start. In those cases you > can open a terminal ("Applications" -> "System Tools" -> "Terminal") Yes, that is one of the few things I managed to write down in my accelerated Linux crash course. (Aarghhh) > and type the command that starts the program. errrmmm..... how? What command? (Run don't work) >It may tell you things about what's wrong as it fails. > > > In addition, he has pointed out that FC 5 is no longer supported (suggesting > > that the 32 bit version of FC 6 also might not be, for much longer), and has > > suggested that I might be better off installing the longer term supported > > Ubuntu, which he is confident Planet CCRMA should run on. > > Ubuntu is based on Debian as the core distribution and so is basically > incompatible with Planet CCRMA (which is built on top of Fedora). > > > I would appreciate your comments on that, too. > > Planet CCRMA packages will not install on top of Ubuntu. There an > initiative that is part of Ubuntu called Ubuntu Studio that provides the > same type of stuff that Planet CCRMA provides. > > Fedora is fast paced, new releases every 6 months or so. So it has the > advantage of having newer software available and the disadvantage of a > fast release cycle. It would be fine to skip every other release, for > example, but sooner or later you'll have to update to a newer one. > > > At this stage, the main thing I need is help files. > > > > I did manage to open Rosegarden, which was considerate enough to tell me it > > needed JACK server to function. Although I could not find that in the > > software list, I did manage to find, by trial & error that Qjackctl, > > followed by start did the trick for that (cryptic, or not?) > > Yes, Qjackctl is the first thing you start (if you want to work with > jack). Probably you want to go to preferences and change - in the Setup > dialog - the interface from "Default" to "hw:0" which points directly to > your first soundcard (or "hw:1" which is the second, etc). > "Frames/Period" and "Periods/Buffer" will define the latency of Jack, or > in other words how small the buffers it uses are. The smaller, the more > responsive a soft synth will be to real time commands. I normally use > 128 and 2 with good results. > > > I also managed to open Snd whose basic help did work. However, none of the > > related help did, giving e.g. Firefox cannot find the file at > > file:///snd.html#etc . (Surely that must be a bug which can be easily fixed, > > if you know where these files are supposed to be located?) > > You should be able to get to its manual in a browser by pointing to: > file:///usr/share/doc/snd-9.1/snd.html Unfortunately I had to reboot to Windows XP to get to remote desktop to get to emails on server, to respond to this, so will have to check this out on next reboot. Sounds promisingb though. > This is probably a packaging problem, I have to take a look at it. > > > I do now have some pretty good help files for SuperCollider (which is what I > > think I need most). Unfortunately, however, as we already know now, this > > does not work with 64 bit Linux. I did eventually find a Windows (beta > > version) link which wasn't empty, and so downloaded that onto the other > > partition, but that doesn't work either (not even a response to 2+2, enter). > > Psycollider? Hmm, I think that should work, unless your version of > Windows is 64 bit as well. I don't have a clue whether it is or not. All I know is the hardware is 1.83 Ghz Duo core Intel with 64 kilobyte primary memory cache, 2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache, and 1 GB RAM. > > I don't think I am completely useless when it comes to computers and music. > > I did, after all, manage to design, build, program, & debug, a pyramid > > computer music system based on refinements of a digitally controlled analog > > flight simulation computer, with one of the first 16 bit microprocesssors at > > the (lower end) man-macine interface, over a quarter of a century ago. > > Wow... > > > However, my initial attempt to interface with Planet CCRMA have left me > > feeling a bit like Homer Simpson, when he can't fin d the ANY key. > > You will need a bit of patience I'm afraid. You are tackling a new > operating system, new applications, etc, etc. It can drive you into > overload very easily :-) It does that to me from time to time. > > Usually the home web pages for most Linux applications have links to > documentation on how to use the program. Some are good, some are bad and > on somes you have to learn by doing. When there's documentation > available in the original software package I install it. The location is > not necessarily the same for everything. Sometimes it is available from > the menus of the app itself, sometimes you have to do a little digging > to find it. For example, most packages come with a README file that > tells you what they do, and it is usually installed in the doc > directory, which is here: > > /usr/share/doc/ > > You will see docs for most of the installed programs there. > > You can also see what files the program has installed and see if there's > anything documentation related. In a terminal type: > > rpm -q -l package_name | more > > That will list all files in a given package. Pretty long and useless > list sometimes. But: > > rpm -q -l package_name | grep README > > will list anything that has README in its name (a better clue). Or > > rpm -q -l package_name | grep doc > > will list anything that has doc in its name. > > rpm -q -i package_name > > will also list more details for the package, including the URL of the > home page of the software, which may have docs available. Most packages > are listed in the Planet CCRMA home page with links to the home site as > well. > > Hope this helps a little bit... > Perhaps others can chime in with good online resources... > -- Fernando Thanks. Your response has been most encouraging. I was almost at the point of completely giving up! From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Oct 29 11:44:00 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Oct 29 10:44:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] 32 & 64 bit FC In-Reply-To: <002001c81a4d$458cf9d0$01a8a8c0@system7125> References: <20071023190005.32748.20126.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <001501c81602$65732610$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193243909.10067.5.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <001401c81953$254c3370$01a8a8c0@system7125> <1193595845.30371.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <002001c81a4d$458cf9d0$01a8a8c0@system7125> Message-ID: <1193679813.729.15.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 17:00 +0000, joey.a wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:09 +0000, joey.a wrote: > > > Consequently, since I can't even open most of the programs, it would be > > > helpful if you could indicate precisely which ones should open in a 64 > bit > > > environment (under what conditions), and which ones shouldn't, so that I > can > > > work out what (if anything) I am doing wrong. > > > > The ones that got installed should work. Anything that does not work > > (AFAIK) is not available at all for the 64 bit versions of FC. > > Makes sense SuperCollider is not displayed. Neither is the Scheme version > of Snd (AFAICT) The Planet CCRMA build of Snd includes scheme. If you can start snd then it has scheme (and is based in scheme). > > Most of the useful programs need Jack to be up and running before they > > are able to start. Some are polite and tell you something is missing > > (like Rosegarden), some will silently fail to start. In those cases you > > can open a terminal ("Applications" -> "System Tools" -> "Terminal") > > Yes, that is one of the few things I managed to write down in my accelerated > Linux crash course. (Aarghhh) > > > and type the command that starts the program. > > errrmmm..... how? What command? (Run don't work) The command is usually the name of the program. So, for snd typing "snd" in a terminal will start snd. Or for rosegarden typing "rosegarden" should do it. If that does not work it may be that the command that starts the program is slightly different. You could either find the README for it and it will usually tell what the command name is, or you could use rpm itself to try to find it: rpm -q -l package_name | grep usr/bin will list stuff in /usr/bin, usually just one line and that should be the program you start for that particular package. For example: ---- rpm -q -l rosegarden4|grep usr/bin /usr/bin/rosegarden /usr/bin/rosegarden-audiofile-importer /usr/bin/rosegarden-lilypondview /usr/bin/rosegarden-project-package /usr/bin/rosegardensequencer ---- the shorter one in this particular case is the one you want to type in the command line. "/usr/bin/" is the place where pretty much all user accessible programs store their binaries or startup scripts. > [MUNCH] > > > I don't think I am completely useless when it comes to computers and > music. > > > I did, after all, manage to design, build, program, & debug, a pyramid > > > computer music system based on refinements of a digitally controlled > analog > > > flight simulation computer, with one of the first 16 bit > microprocesssors at > > > the (lower end) man-macine interface, over a quarter of a century ago. > > > > Wow... > > > > > However, my initial attempt to interface with Planet CCRMA have left me > > > feeling a bit like Homer Simpson, when he can't fin d the ANY key. > > > > You will need a bit of patience I'm afraid. You are tackling a new > > operating system, new applications, etc, etc. It can drive you into > > overload very easily :-) It does that to me from time to time. > > > > Usually the home web pages for most Linux applications have links to > > documentation on how to use the program. Some are good, some are bad and > > on somes you have to learn by doing. When there's documentation > > available in the original software package I install it. The location is > > not necessarily the same for everything. Sometimes it is available from > > the menus of the app itself, sometimes you have to do a little digging > > to find it. For example, most packages come with a README file that > > tells you what they do, and it is usually installed in the doc > > directory, which is here: > > > > /usr/share/doc/ > > > > You will see docs for most of the installed programs there. > > > > You can also see what files the program has installed and see if there's > > anything documentation related. In a terminal type: > > > > rpm -q -l package_name | more > > > > That will list all files in a given package. Pretty long and useless > > list sometimes. But: > > > > rpm -q -l package_name | grep README > > > > will list anything that has README in its name (a better clue). Or > > > > rpm -q -l package_name | grep doc > > > > will list anything that has doc in its name. > > > > rpm -q -i package_name > > > > will also list more details for the package, including the URL of the > > home page of the software, which may have docs available. Most packages > > are listed in the Planet CCRMA home page with links to the home site as > > well. > > > > Hope this helps a little bit... > > Perhaps others can chime in with good online resources... > > Thanks. Your response has been most encouraging. I was almost at the point > of completely giving up! Yeah, getting started is not easy if this is your first contact with Linux. Remember you just landed in a new planet and you don't know anything about local customs, etc, etc. It takes a while learn your way around... -- Fernando From jsdey at optonline.net Tue Oct 30 08:52:01 2007 From: jsdey at optonline.net (John Dey) Date: Tue Oct 30 07:52:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] External Sound Card Message-ID: I am looking for a external sound card that has spdif (7.1) functioning. The driver Soundblaster nx usb seems like it is under active development. The alsa documentation page says that spdif is not working. Is the documentation page out of date or is someone working on that capability? If spdif capability is not in the near future, can someone suggest a sound device (spdif capable) that I could look at. Thanks. John From hcengar at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 10:07:01 2007 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Oct 30 09:07:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <695e1a650710300906x37c06a84l8f9d135178c21815@mail.gmail.com> Oh dear... one more. Today there is another update to libraw1394 in the Fedora repos. On Oct 26, 2007 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hi, > > Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an > update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is > overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's > is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). > > Cheers! > > Hector > From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Oct 30 11:04:01 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Oct 30 10:04:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: libraw1394 update breaking CCRMA's In-Reply-To: <695e1a650710300906x37c06a84l8f9d135178c21815@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650710261116s814d2b0x3018e1b440d009bc@mail.gmail.com> <695e1a650710300906x37c06a84l8f9d135178c21815@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193763795.7363.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 12:06 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Oh dear... one more. Today there is another update to libraw1394 in > the Fedora repos. Ok, the new release has been de-juju'ed :-) Thanks again for keeping track of this! -- Fernando > On Oct 26, 2007 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Probably Fernando is aware of this already but since some days ago an > > update appeared in the Fedora repository for libraw1394. This one is > > overwriting the CCRMA version and breaking Firewire support (Fedora's > > is build 10 and CCRMA is build 9). From cladisch at fastmail.net Tue Oct 30 12:13:00 2007 From: cladisch at fastmail.net (Clemens Ladisch) Date: Tue Oct 30 11:13:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [alsa-devel] External Sound Card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1193764791.29333.1218639071@webmail.messagingengine.com> John Dey wrote: > I am looking for a external sound card that has spdif (7.1) > functioning. 7.1 encoding is done in software, not in hardware. I don't know of any 7.1 encoder for Linux. ALSA has the a52 plugin that can do 5.1 encoding for any sound card that has SPDIF, but you'd have to compile it with the ffmpeg library to get it to work. HTH Clemens