[PlanetCCRMA] VST

[Joseph Dell'Orfano]

Thank you so much for your reply. I have explored all of these options 
and actually just got my Amplitube plugin working on my old 32-bit 
machine. This is using CCRMA with FC6.  This works for me because I have 
this connected via S/PDIF to my main DAW (a 64-bit machine running CCRMA 
and FC8), so essentially my old 32-bit machine is functioning as a 
digital effects processor.

Here is the summary of my experience with VST so far. I have cross 
posted this on LAU as well.

1. I cannot run a (windows) VST on my 64-bit machine. I cannot compile 
dssi-vst, fst, or wine-asio. It appears that they do not want to compile 
against my 64-bit jack libraries. Perhaps I am missing something obvious 
(probably) but I just can't compile these.

2. Reaper does not work in Wine on my 64-bit machine. I installed wine 
from the CCRMA repo (it is 32-bit I believe).

3. Energy-XT runs but I cannot compile the libamm with jack support. 
Again, 64-bit problems. I have not tried to run the windows version of 
energy-XT but I suspect I will have wine problems as I did with reaper.

4. dssi-vst appears to be broken on the 32-bit machine. Again, I 
downloaded this from CCRMA repo. vsthost scans all of my plugins 
properly and starts them up but quickly fails with a report that it 
"lost communication" with the plugin.

5. fst compiles on my 32-bit machine very easily and runs my windows 
plugins properly (Yay!)

I hope this is helpful. Any comments about getting VST support up and 
running on my 64-bit machine would be greatly appreciated.

-Joe

Preston C. wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Joseph Dell'Orfano
> <fullgo at dellorfano.net> wrote:
>   
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I am trying to find a solution to vst support on a ccrma fedora 8
>> system. Oh, did I mention I'm running 64-bit? That seems to be a major
>> wall preventing dssi-vst and others from compiling. I can compile wine-
>> asio-x and jackbridge seems work fine. I cannot get Reaper to run, nor
>> can I get extreme-xt to run with jack support (cannot compile libamm).
>> I am using the stock wine packages from ccrma which do not appear to
>> be 64-bit so this may prevent programs such as reaper from working.
>>
>> So, any suggestions would be appreciated. There do not seem to be a
>> lot of success stories out there.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Joe Dell'Orfano
>>
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>
> I asked the same question on this list, and got a great reply from a
> guy named Ray Rashif. Here it is:
>
> OK, the deal about VST "support" on GNU/Linux is that you can read all
> about it scattered all around the WWW. It'd take some time to really
> get things right if you don't come across the correct sources sooner
> than expected. The SDK is freely available, but not free is in our
> understanding; the license forbids redistribution. So, say you were to
> use the SDK to program a host, you're not allowed to let the binary be
> up for download. Each individual must agree to the licensing terms and
> then download the SDK to compile the software himself. This is what
> limits the so-called support for VSTs on Linux, or any free platform.
>
> In view of the situation, there are currently a few ways to use
> VST(i)s on our favourite distros:
>
> (1) Proprietary DAW software with Linux offerings. Examples are
> Renoise, energyXT..and I think that's about it.
>
> (2) Wine-friendly Windows software. Examples are..example is Reaper.
>
> (3) SDK-compiled Linux software that support it. Examples are Ardour,
> Rosegarden, and I can't really remember the rest. Here you need to
> download the SDK and configure the build to compile against the SDK.
>
> (4) Linux software with unique support for VSTs built in, with the
> help of Wine. Note: No SDK required. This is my personal favourite
> route to take. Examples are LMMS and Qtractor (via dssi-vst).
> ---- Extra note: Qtractor is different because it relies on a separate
> wrapper, which in turn has that unique Wine-based support built in:
> dssi-vst
> ---- Previously dssi-vst required the SDK, but not anymore. Yay.
>
> (5) Native VST host. Native here means Linux-only. These VSTs are
> those that are compiled for the Linux system. There is only 1 such
> host to my knowledge - Jost. The collection of plug-ins (ported or
> otherwise) isn't all that great, but it feels really good being able
> to run VST instruments natively without any overhead or performance
> loss. The author's few plug-ins are of high quality; a talented
> programmer AND musician he is.
>   
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