<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>This was actually my first attempt at performing an upgrade; the few installations I've ever completed were always on new drives. I was hoping that by doing an upgrade instead, my home directory and configuration would be retained, including things like installed Firefox plugins and so forth, which I have always had to re-install in the past. </div><div><br></div><div>I was pleased to see that this upgrade preserved not only much of the set-up work I had done, but also the selection of applications that I had added, e.g. from CCRMA. Since I have not been able to add the Planet CCRMA repositories, I assume these are still the F11 packages, if they are truly there at all, but I have not tried running them since I don't have the RT
kernel. </div><div><br></div><div>It would be great if an upgrade could be transparent, as far as personal settings and configuration go (that's why I run Linux, after all), and the only changes were the parts that were truly upgraded. Maybe that's too much to hope for.</div><div><br></div><div>- Bruce</div><div style="font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Nicholas Manojlovic <nicholasmanojlovic@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Bruce Elliott <belliott4488@verizon.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> PlanetCCRMA List <planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, November 28, 2009 2:37:40 AM<br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA<br></font><br>
It's probably a silly big that is causing the media check to fail. <br><br>The 'upgrade' method of installing is unreliable, IMO. Its best to start from a cleanly formatted drive. I can't work out if this is what you did or not. <br>
<br>Remember that KDE is not installed unless you select that as an option. <br><br>I never particularly liked Fedora 11 anyway on my hardware - I haven't yet given F12 a go. <br><br>It might be worth having another go at installing again from scratch<br>
<br>Cheers<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Bruce Elliott <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:belliott4488@verizon.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:belliott4488@verizon.net">belliott4488@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div>Stephen,<br>
<br>
This sounded like a great idea, so I went ahead with full confidence
and enthusiasm. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out so well. I
downloaded the .iso DVD image (several times before I was done) and
attempted the upgrade, but the discs all keep failing the media check
at the start. I've repeated this several times, downloading by
torrent, from a mirror, etc., and the sha256 hashes all look good for
the .iso files - actually the same file over and over - but they all
fail the media check in the same way. I also created one of the discs
on a Windows laptop, in case it was a problem with my DVD drive - same
result.<br>
<br>
On one of my first attempts I tried to see if I could exit the
installer gracefully rather than just by doing a hard reset. I had
hoped that I would have an option to abandon the installation at some
point, but I never did, and the installation just carried along until
it finished (with no obvious errors).<br>
<br>
So now I have Fedora 11, or at least parts of it. I can't start KDE
and if I try to update any software, yum fails. When I go to the
graphical interface to add/remove software, all the packages say "no
results found". Running yum from the command lines fails with a message
about there being no yum python module or something.<br>
<br>
The good news is that I have sound from Firefox. The bad news is that I can't do much of anything else.<br>
<br>
I don't know what the problem is with the (multiple) F11 installation
disc(s) I created, but now it seems like I'm stuck with this crippled
installation until I'm ready to upgrade to F12.<br>
<br>
What do you suggest? Are the x86_64 CCRMA packages for F12 stable
enough for a novice to be able to find his way around? Since it looks
like figuring out how to add the CCRMA packages to this broken F11
installation might take some time, I'm tempted just to go ahead and
install F12 and wait until the 64-bit CCRMA packages are ready, if
they're not yet. Either way, I'm off the planet until then, so I might
as well get a healthy Fedora installation while I'm waiting ...<br>
<br>
- Bruce<br></div><div style="font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><div class="im">
<hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stephen Stubbs <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:theother1510@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:theother1510@sbcglobal.net">theother1510@sbcglobal.net</a>><br></div><div class="im"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Bruce Elliott <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:belliott4488@verizon.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:belliott4488@verizon.net">belliott4488@verizon.net</a>><br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> PlanetCCRMA List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU">planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, November 24, 2009 10:52:15 PM<div class="im">
<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA<br></div></font><div class="im"><br>
<div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>Hello Bruce,</div>
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<div>May I suggest that you install Fedora 11. Then go to the Fedora home page and join the forum. A lot of installation problems are handled there. I'm on the Windows laptop now and can't confirm the exact places, but look for the HowTo from Danger Mouse. He has a site where you can add all sorts of non-free applications (like a complete MPlayer setup, Flash Player for Firefox, etc.). Danger Mouse has worked out all the issues. You simply select what you want from his list and then his script pulls everything in (including any needed repositories) and installs it. You may have to reboot. Then the function/program is good to go.</div>
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<div>Then check the archives of this list to see exactly what you need to do to add the PlanetCCRMA Fedora 11 repository. Fernando told me how to do it a few months ago. I think I may have just used the Fedora 10 file path, changed all references to Fedora 11, and got into the repository.</div>
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<div>Sorry I can't be more specific, but that should give you some pointers. For myself on Fedora 10, I loaded up everything ALSA with that one exception of Do Not load the ALSA-Pulse connection package, then removed everything that was PulseAudio that I could. But as I said in the prior post, Fedora 11, ALSA, and PulseAudio seem to playing nice with each other. So start working with Fedora 11 since it won't be that much longer before Fedora 10 is no longer actively supported. (Fedora only actively supports the most recent 3 versions.)</div>
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<div>Good Luck,</div>
<div>Stephen.<br></div>
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