<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Rui Nuno Capela <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rncbc@rncbc.org">rncbc@rncbc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div> thanks for testing and harnessing this out.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for filling my desktop and hard-disk with the coolest, well-conceived & well-written software!</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
re. (1) Track Properties Plugins Freeze<br>
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it turns out that choosing the "(Any)" plugin type is not /that/ all<br>
recommended, specially if you have some ill behaved plugins around and<br>
it takes only one to make it all compromised. notably, if you just<br>
happen to have some native VST plugins around you're better off never<br>
use this plugin listing option<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It wasn't something I'd normally do, more of a "testing" thing. I did install just about every lv2/dssi/ladspa plugin I could find on CCRMA and set qtractor's plugin options pointing to /usr/lib64/ladspa/ , /usr/lib64/dssi/ , and /usr/lib64/lv2/ . The issue didn't come up on any of the other options. "lv2" "dssi" "ladspa" , just "(any)" .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Now on second look, its clear the problem is in one of my DSSI or LADSPA plugins. If I select between options "ladspa" and "lv2", no problem. But if I select between "dssi" and "ladspa" it core dumps. Erasing dssi-vst-wine-0.8-4.fc12.i686 and dssi-vst-0.8-4.fc12.x86_64 didn't help, and I don't have any other VST's....</div>
<div><br></div><div>Poking around some more, the LV2 Calf Organ ( lv2-calf-plugins-0.0.18.5-3.fc12.x86_64 )causes qtractor to hang in the exact same way as the LV2 LinuxSampler ( lv2-linuxsampler-plugins-1.0.0-2.fc12.ccrma.x86_64 ).</div>
<div><br></div><div>However, why would a midi plugin need LADSPA anyways? I don't see any LADSPA plugins with midi ins. Likewise, many of the entries in LV2 and DSSI have no MIDI input, yet are presented in a long list in the midi plugins selection.</div>
<div>Perhaps it makes sense, in the context of choosing a midi plugin, to filter out the plugins that don't provide MIDI input?</div><div><br></div><div> Similarly, does it make sense for a midi output (in the mixer-panel) to have a plugin that outputs Audio? I tried putting synth plugins in the mixer's midi outputs, but couldn't get them to produce sound on midi input ("send test note" in FluidSynth DSSI works); I could get midi-input plugin working only when invoked on a track as an instrument, and connected to an input..</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">re. (2) Track Properties Plugins Freeze<br>
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linuxsampler plugins (lv2 or dssi) don't connect directly to alsa nor<br>
jack, ie. device types should be set to "plugin" and not "alsa" (midi)<br>
nor "jack" (audio), while on channel setup in qsampler. anyway, don't<br>
push it so hard if you're not knowing how to do. linuxsampler plugins<br>
are bleeding-edge anyway, so you better do one step at a time :)<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>w/r/t my comments on jack vs alsa -- that was for setting up qsampler, which I used because I figured it would better guide me than running Linuxsampler on the command-line. I was getting LinuxSampler plugins to freeze both in dssi and lv2, so I figured it might have something to do w/ the linuxsampler server not running, and after failing to change qtractor's behavior by running linuxsampler on the command-line,I tried getting it working directly inside qsampler, only to find that .SFZ isn't supported in the CCRMA version....</div>
<div><br></div><div>The first step: Update Linuxsampler and plugins. I'm using what CCRMA has: linuxsampler-1.0.0-2.fc12.ccrma.x86_64, lv2-linuxsampler-plugins-1.0.0-2.fc12.ccrma.x86_64, linuxsampler-dssi-1.0.0-2.fc12.ccrma.x86_64 . it looks like I'll need to get LinuxSampler off CVS anyways, give that the SalamanderGrand is in sfz format:</div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 10px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 10px; "><pre>alexander <axeldenstore <at> <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>> wrote:
>s I reported earlier I ditched the giga format and went
>for <b style="color: black; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 102); ">sfz</b>, you will need linuxsampler cvs to load the <b style="color: black; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 102); ">sfz</b> file.
</pre></span>What version of LinuxSampler do you recommend using? Anybody have up-to-date or qtractor-compatible LinuxSampler as an RPM (SUSE rpms work fine too)?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
re. (3)<br>
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well, tinkering with random plugins is risky business after all :) no<br>
plugin is trustable before hand, if you know what i mean ;)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yep. Qtractor held up quite nicely through all the fidding, so I'd say this release works well, and it's very solid & ready to supersede the current&buggy rpmfusion release. I just wanted to make sure that I tested out most of it's functionality, and the plugins is one aspect I hadn't played with -- after all , I've got a db60xg and qxgedit keeping me busy. :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>-- Niels</div><div><a href="http://nielsmayer.com">http://nielsmayer.com</a></div><div><br></div><div>PS: Is there a bug-tracker for qtractor or any of your other software? If not, you might want to consider applying for a free Jira License ( <a href="http://www.atlassian.com/opensource/">http://www.atlassian.com/opensource/</a> ). Jira has done a beautiful job in bug-tracking an open-source project I'm using ( <a href="http://jira.xwiki.org">http://jira.xwiki.org</a> ) that I've been using as a Java-based web-programming platform for the last few years and for various projects (coming real soon now <a href="http://trainspodder.com">http://trainspodder.com</a> ... <a href="http://nielsmayer.com/ts-episode-timeline.png">http://nielsmayer.com/ra2_residentadvisor_net_audio_RA201_100405_19_454_18_5_25_5_18_residentadvisor_net_mp3.png </a> <a href="http://nielsmayer.com/ts-episode-evnt-anls.png">http://nielsmayer.com/ts-episode-evnt-anls.png</a> ). </div>
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