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<small><font face="sans-serif">Hi Niels, hi Donald<br>
<br>
There appears to be some subtle differences between gnome and kde
desktops when removing pulseaudio.<br>
<br>
On fc12 x86_64 with KDE 4.4.x and Planet CCRMA core packages installed
- a simple remove all packages except pulseaudio-libs and
pulseaudio-libs-glib2 was sufficient.<br>
<br>
On restarting KDE, KDE automatically picked-up that the pulseaudio
sound server is unavailable and asks whether the pulseaudio
configuration should be permanently removed - the answer is a clear yes!<br>
<br>
The Planet CCRMA core app package takes care of the RT configuration.<br>
<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 22.05.2010 18:52, schrieb Niels Mayer:</font></small>
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 type="cite"><small><font face="sans-serif">Consider <a
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 href="http://old.nabble.com/uninstall-pulseaudio-to-increase-audio-app-stability-across-updates-%28was-Re:-yum-update%29-to27759501.html#a27759501">http://old.nabble.com/uninstall-pulseaudio-to-increase-audio-app-stability-across-updates-(was-Re:-yum-update)-to27759501.html#a27759501</a></font></small>
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  <div><small><font face="sans-serif">Specifically:</font></small></div>
  <div><small><font face="sans-serif">.............</font></small></div>
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  <div style="border-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">see <a
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 href="http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds"
 target="_top" rel="nofollow" style="font-size: 1em;">http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds</a> section
and follow section "To really remove PulseAudio for some reason"...
furthermore you'll want to follow these notes from a bug I need to file:</div>
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  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">(08:31:46
AM) ***npm the proper way to uninstall pulseaudio is (1) in sound
preferences select "no sounds"; (2) in gstreamer-properties, setup
specific ALSA devices ; (3) 'yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-x11 paprefs pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-utils' ; (4)
reboot...</blockquote>
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 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
(08:32:20 AM) npm: if you skip step #1, you get a system that doesn't
respond to mouse clicks in a timely fashion (bug)</blockquote>
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 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">(08:32:46
AM) npm: and it takes a minute to switch screens in windows panel (bug)</blockquote>
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 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">(08:33:23
AM) npm: so either the pulseaudio dependency should be properly
reflected so that you can't uninstall pulseaudio w/o uninstalling all
of gnome</blockquote>
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 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">(08:33:31
AM) npm: or the bug should get fixed</blockquote>
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  <div>after editing gstreamer-properties, you might have something
like:</div>
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  <div>.gconf/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/%gconf.xml </div>
  <div>&lt;?xml version="1.0"?&gt;</div>
  <div>&lt;gconf&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="visualization" mtime="1265693942"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;alsasink&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="musicaudiosink_description"
mtime="1265693934" type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;NPM: set music audio sink
device=&amp;quot;hw:SB,1&amp;quot; -- [HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708S
Digital [VT1708S Digital]&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="chataudiosink_description"
mtime="1265693821" type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;NPM: set
device=&amp;quot;hw:Headset,0&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="chataudiosink" mtime="1265693808"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;alsasink
device=&amp;quot;hw:Headset,0&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="musicaudiosink" mtime="1265693856"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;alsasink
device=&amp;quot;hw:SB,1&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="audiosrc_description" mtime="1265693734"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;NPM: set input audio source
device=&amp;quot;default&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="audiosink_description"
mtime="1265693750" type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;NPM: set output audio sink
device=&amp;quot;default&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="audiosrc" mtime="1274546965"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;alsasrc
device=&amp;quot;hw:1,0&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="videosrc" mtime="1274546965"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;v4l2src&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="videosink" mtime="1274546965"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;xvimagesink
device=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot;&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;entry name="audiosink" mtime="1274546965"
type="string"&gt;</div>
  <div>                &lt;stringvalue&gt;alsasink&lt;/stringvalue&gt;</div>
  <div>        &lt;/entry&gt;</div>
  <div>&lt;/gconf&gt;</div>
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  </span>Niels<br>
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