<div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">- Maybe there is another development package I need besides the gcc one?</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></blockquote><div> yum groupinstall "Development Tools" gets you all the basics.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Steve Duell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steveduell@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveduell@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Jeremy,<div><br></div><div>Thanks indeed for the detailed steps. Here's how it went:</div><div class="">
<div><br></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">1. make sure you have basic software development packages</span><br>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">installed so you can compile stuff </span></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">(wasn't sure what I needed, so I just installed gcc c++ package)</span></blockquote>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">2. install the kernel-devel packages for stock kernel</span><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">(no problem)</span></div>
</blockquote><div class=""><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">3. uninstall any other type of nvidia driver and/or noveau</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<font face="arial, sans-serif">(I did this through the package manager - appeared to do the job)</font></blockquote><div class="">
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">4. install nvidia akmod while running stock kernel</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font face="arial, sans-serif">(check)</font></blockquote>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">5. reboot and make sure akmod working first with stock kernel</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">(Nvidia drivers built successfully & working great on the stock kernel.)</span></div>
</blockquote><div class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">6. once it does then install the CCRMA stuff/realtime kernel but make</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">sure you also install the kernel-rt-devel* BEFORE you reboot.</span><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">(done)</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></blockquote><font face="arial, sans-serif">Upon rebooting into the CCRMA kernel, the bootloader animation made it almost to the end before the system started running through a checklist. I saw in that list that it was attempting to build from a kmod package. Other entries appeared after that, and then the system hung on the message "starting Avahi DNS something...". I waited 5 minutes with no activity, then went to the virtual terminal and ran the grep commands. They returned no nouveau or nvidia modules. So I guess it's as you say - the nvidia drivers for this kernel didn't compile. </font><div>
<font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I have some idea about why this may be:</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">- Even though I attempted to install the regular i686 kernel package, I noticed that the package manager gave me a PAE version. I don't think I need this, as I'm pretty sure I don't have 4 gigs of RAM. Is it possible to force the installation of the non-PAE version through the terminal?</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">- Maybe there is another development package I need besides the gcc one?</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Anyway, thanks again for the help - you've helped me get farther along in the process than I've been able to so far on my own. Much appreciated!</font></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
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</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">-Steve<br></font><div><div><br></div></div></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy M Booth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bq20@comcast.net" target="_blank">bq20@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If it helps to keep track of things to reinstall that's fine but<br>
technically you shouldn't have to do that. All the akmod is,<br>
is the proprietary nvidia driver repackaged, so unless your machine<br>
is over a decade old it shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 minutes. Some<br>
akmods compile right after you install them so I guess just pay<br>
attention to what's going on before you reboot as well. Also every time<br>
you install a new kernel it will have to recompile itself, which it does<br>
automatically. You need the kernel devel packages first, because the<br>
akmod needs them to compile. Otherwise I'm not sure whether it warns<br>
you about the dependencies or not. I don't see why any spin would<br>
hurt so long as it's still fedora. So if you're installing from scratch<br>
this is what I'd do:<br>
<br>
first to make downloads more efficient:<br>
<br>
yum install yum-plugin-fastestmirror<br>
yum update<br>
<br>
1. make sure you have basic software development packages<br>
installed so you can compile stuff<br>
2. install the kernel-devel packages for stock kernel<br>
3. uninstall any other type of nvidia driver and/or noveau<br>
4. install nvidia akmod while running stock kernel<br>
5. reboot and make sure akmod working first with stock kernel<br>
6. once it does then install the CCRMA stuff/realtime kernel but make<br>
sure you also install the kernel-rt-devel* BEFORE you reboot<br>
<br>
Possible troubleshooting:<br>
The akmod installation scripts should disable noveau so if you run into<br>
problems, like a blank screen on startup, go to a virtual terminal by<br>
hitting CTRL+ALT+F2, login and do a "lsmod |grep noveau" (without the<br>
quotes) and see if there's a module called noveau and if there is you<br>
have to get rid of it. If that command shows nothing than do a "lsmod | grep nvidia"<br>
and if that doesn't it means the nvidia module either didn't compile<br>
or is not loading.<br>
<br>
This setup definitely works though as I've been using the<br>
fedora/ccrma/akmod combination for several releases now, but like you<br>
said the information on the web is very spotty feel free to report back<br>
with any problems.<br>
<br>
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:41:51 -0700<br>
<div><div>Steve Duell <<a href="mailto:steveduell@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveduell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Thank, Jeremy! I'll reinstall F20 from scratch and follow your steps.<br>
> Just a few more questions:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Should I install the akmod or the kernel-rt-devel package first? Or<br>
> does it matter? I gather that as long as they're both present at<br>
> reboot, everything should come out fine.<br>
><br>
> You mention a delay on first boot after installing the akmod. Can you<br>
> estimate about how long it should take? It's possible that the first<br>
> time I tried this, I just gave up too soon.<br>
><br>
> Also, is there any harm in using the CCRMA kernel with the Fedora Jam<br>
> spin? After weeks of trying to get various distros to play nice with<br>
> my hardware, I'm to the point where I'd gladly accept one with most<br>
> of the workhorse audio utilities pre-packaged for my convenience.<br>
><br>
> Thanks again for the prompt reply.<br>
><br>
> -Steve<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Jeremy M Booth <<a href="mailto:bq20@comcast.net" target="_blank">bq20@comcast.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Also make sure you have the kernel-rt-devel* package installed for<br>
> > the akmods to compile.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:29:43 -0700<br>
> > Steve Duell <<a href="mailto:steveduell@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveduell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Hey Folks,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm new to linux, and have gone through several distributions over<br>
> > > the last few weeks, looking for the right one. I've tried and am<br>
> > > very happy with Fedora 19 & 20 (both Xfce and LXDE editions).<br>
> > > I've had no problems installing the RT kernel, but running the<br>
> > > nouveau driver for graphics doesn't work well with my NVIDIA<br>
> > > Geforce 8 chip. Once enough windows are open, or enough images<br>
> > > load on a webpage, the display gets corrupted and I can't<br>
> > > continue to use the computer without a reboot.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I tried installing the proprietary drivers, which work fine on a<br>
> > > stock kernel, but the CCRMA RT kernel will not boot after the<br>
> > > nvidia drivers are installed.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I've googled the issue pretty deeply, and I see lots of<br>
> > > conflicting information about the exact steps to get the nvidia<br>
> > > driver working with F20. I'm hoping that one of the power-users<br>
> > > on this list has already surmounted this issue and can walk a<br>
> > > newbie through it, step-by-step.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm perfectly happy to start all over with a clean install of<br>
> > > fedora (any version) if it will make life easier for me or you.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks a ton,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Steve<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
<br>
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