[Stk] Ruby extensions with STK

David Michael david.michael at gmail.com
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:01:45 -0500 

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> I also figured it might work for sinusoids and the like, but I  
> assumed it wouldn't scale very well to more complex computation.
> Keep us posted on what you're able to do with it!
>

This may well be the case, so yes, I will write back with more as  
soon as I figure out what Im doing.

>> What would be really amazing would be a domain specific language  
>> for the STK built off of Ruby for manipulating audio objects, but  
>> I have yet to figure out how one would manage audio streams  
>> between Ruby objects...

> Heh, well actually I think this is pretty much what Chuck is, minus  
> the Ruby...  :-)

Yes true, but as much as I love Chuck, its not a very complete  
language and lacks some very basic things like string manipulation.  
Plus, strong typing still makes it more tedious to work with than I  
would prefer.

Building an audio engine into an existing dynamic language, like  
Ruby, would give access to all the syntax (and libraries) of the host  
language. I think maybe Jsyn works something like this with Java. In  
any case, Ruby is a very well used language right now with tons of  
nice libraries. I suppose also that SuperCollider is kindof this with  
SmallTalk, but it is not really SmallTalk. I have not done nearly  
enough research on audio extensions to other existing languages other  
than C/C++ to know what I am talking about, but there is this one  
already for Ruby;
http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/ruby-audio/
but it seems that the intent of this library is somewhat different:  
perhaps just audio files (cuz it relies on libsndfile).

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like, but I assumed it wouldn't scale very well to more complex =
computation.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Keep us posted on what you're =
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class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>This may well be the case, =
so yes, I will write back with more as soon as I figure out what Im =
doing.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">What would be really amazing would be a domain =
specific language for the STK built off of Ruby for manipulating audio =
objects, but I have yet to figure out how one would manage audio streams =
between Ruby objects...</div></blockquote></blockquote><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote><div =
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give access to all the syntax (and libraries) of the host language. I =
think maybe Jsyn works something like this with Java. In any case, Ruby =
is a very well used language right now with tons of nice libraries. I =
suppose also that SuperCollider is kindof this with SmallTalk, but it is =
not really SmallTalk. I have not done nearly enough research on audio =
extensions to other existing languages other than C/C++ to know what I =
am talking about, but there is this one already for Ruby;</div><div><div =
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