Hi, I installed alsa-plugins but now when I start any alsa app (apart from jackd) I get ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1101:(_snd_pcm_dmix_open) The field ipc_gid must be a valid group (create group audio) aplay: main:540: audio open error: Invalid argument and no sound. Is there anything else I should do to get dmix working? Nathaniel -- Escape from the Head Cube http://headcube.vootrunner.com